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helpmerest

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Aug 15, 2024
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Anyone who failed with SN, can you please tell me if it was painful or peaceful? Do painkillers and benzos actually help?

I'm also wondering if jet lag could make the symptoms worse? Should I wait to recover from the jetlag beforehand and wait 2-3 days?

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Has anyone failed with SN and can you please tell me if it was painful or peaceful? Do painkillers and benzos actually help?

I'm also wondering if jet lag could make the symptoms worse? Should I wait to recover from the jetlag beforehand and wait 2-3 days?

Thank you
It depends on the experience.
I found it peaceful except for the most recent time I was vomiting it up .

What I've learned is maybe being anemic in iron levels makes SN more effective .
Not sure about that . Just a possibility from my experience.
Also I hope you find some peace .
 
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CantDoIt

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It depends on the experience.
I found it peaceful except for the most recent time I was vomiting it up .

What I've learned is maybe being anemic in iron levels makes SN more effective .
Not sure about that . Just a possibility from my experience.
Also I hope you find some peace .
Have you tried multiple times?
 
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locked*n*loaded

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I have never tried SN, but from all available information, here and on the Internet, in general, I can tell you that the general concensus is that an "old school" barbiturate, Nembutal, or N, or its equivalent, is the most peaceful method available. Well, not really available, since it's so difficult to get, but it's still considered the "Holy Grail" of methods.
 
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juna

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The peaceful would be Nitrogen or helium asphiaxiation but getting all the equipment and understanding how to use it is difficult. And then just breathe and fall asleep.
 
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Aprilfarewell4

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it's the most peaceful method available, for those who can get SN. preferable to hanging, shooting, drowning, jumping off an building or a train for many. I have talked to several people who took SN, they said it was NOT PAINFUL. most went unconscious in 5-10 minutes then died.
 
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orbwithinorb

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Aug 4, 2024
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it's the most peaceful method available, for those who can get SN. preferable to hanging, shooting, drowning, jumping off an building or a train for many. I have talked to several people who took SN, they said it was NOT PAINFUL. most went unconscious in 5-10 minutes then died.
Why would you just go and spread misinformation like that? There are threads on this and SN for a lot of people takes up to 45 minutes of pretty bad suffering and anxiety. N seems by far to be the holy grail as locked*n*loaded said.
 
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Why would you just go and spread misinformation like that? There are threads on this and SN for a lot of people takes up to 45 minutes of pretty bad suffering and anxiety. N seems by far to be the holy grail as locked*n*loaded said.
Out of curiosity (new to SaSu) what prompts so many people to go for SN then?
 
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CantDoIt

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Out of curiosity (new to SaSu) what prompts so many people to go for SN then?
I think this is because it's one of the next most peaceful and easiest to obtain methods after N. Other things are scary or difficult to get, and supposedly you can be perfectly fine after taking SN if you survive.

Other methods risk more permanent damage if you fail - gun, jumping, hanging, even CO.

From what I've heard.
 
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Why would you just go and spread misinformation like that? There are threads on this and SN for a lot of people takes up to 45 minutes of pretty bad suffering and anxiety. N seems by far to be the holy grail as locked*n*loaded said.
This is distressing news. May I ask if the prolonged painful cbt's involved skewed or flawed preparation? Or is it more a draw of the cards scenario, that is, persons A and B follow precisely the same protocol, but one can have a good quick exit and the other suffer a painful and protracted end?
 
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LunarLight

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Apr 3, 2024
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SN is the most peaceful method that is readily available (for the moment). N is harder and harder to get even in South America. Of course symptoms may vary from one person to another, but all in all, it's the best thing we can have if we're not willing to travel far.
 
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It depends on the experience.
I found it peaceful except for the most recent time I was vomiting it up .

What I've learned is maybe being anemic in iron levels makes SN more effective .
Not sure about that . Just a possibility from my experience.
Also I hope you find some peace .
I was wondering about the effects of SN and iron deficiency ..
 
awaitinglove

awaitinglove

lost in my head
Apr 30, 2023
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I will say N is the best option for most people (including me) but I personally feel like SN would be my personal second best option because of it's reliability and easiest setup (personally).
 
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Aprilfarewell4

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Apr 9, 2024
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Why would you just go and spread misinformation like that? There are threads on this and SN for a lot of people takes up to 45 minutes of pretty bad suffering and anxiety. N seems by far to be the holy grail as locked*n*loaded said.
You didn't understand what I said. it's about access, and people can't obtain Nembutal realistically, so SN is the most peaceful and preferable that people have access to. as far as the threads you mention detailing poor experiences with SN, there's no way to know the accuracy of those experiences. many people on this site have an agenda to stop people from killing themselves. PPH designates SN as a 'peaceful' method and those who I talked to who took it, did not describe their experience as painful etc. do what you want, but it's not misinformation. if train, hanging, drowning jumping etc are preferable to others over SN, then that's their choice.
 
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suffering_mo_7

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May 8, 2024
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I suggest you doing your own research. There's many liars in both camps for numerous reasons (even some who go as far as encouraging others to use it because they don't want to be the only ones). From my own research, SN seems to be different for many...variation in symptoms, what's "tolerable" and failure outcomes. Could be vomiting, stomach and throat pain, tachycardia, trouble breathing, tinnitus, headaches, body pain and weakness, etc. And yes, the guy is right. It CAN last for 45 minutes. I've seen accounts of survivors in here who were conscious at the hospital during treatment and saying that the stomach pain was terrible. I've seen threads of survivors with no lasting effects (some who say it was peaceful but didn't take a full amount) and then some who say they have lasting heart damage, mental/brain damage, bladder/kidney damage, lasting tinnitus. Variable.
 
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kerakow

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Aug 26, 2024
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Anyone who failed with SN, can you please tell me if it was painful or peaceful? Do painkillers and benzos actually help?

I'm also wondering if jet lag could make the symptoms worse? Should I wait to recover from the jetlag beforehand and wait 2-3 days?

Thank you
I failed it this morning. Tbh not fun and I didn't feel any peace. I did it at like 5am. The drink was horrible! I left the SN to sit in the water for like 5 hours and it wasn't dissolving. So it took my like 30 minutes to stir and drink and stir and drink. It was the worst thing I have ever tasted in my life.

Of course I vomited twice. All over the floor. I was super sleepy from the medication I took and from not sleeping right. I didn't die, so I had to go to work at 730. Told boss I threw up and he sent me home. So now I am home and I have a red itchy sore throat, a bad tummy ache (burning, cramping, feels like I'm going to crap myself), and I'm so lethargic.

I would never try that again. I feel awful. People say no pain but my stomach is KILLING me. And my throat hurts I can't even drink water but I'm SOOO thirsty.
 
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Aprilfarewell4

Wizard
Apr 9, 2024
634
unfortunately death is often uncomfortable even for those who die non suicide. heart attack, stoke, car accident etc. peaceful exit is mostly not realistic for anyone. unless cancer etc with hospice and mercy granted via sedation and euthanasia. it's cruel and tragic really.
I failed it this morning. Tbh not fun and I didn't feel any peace. I did it at like 5am. The drink was horrible! I left the SN to sit in the water for like 5 hours and it wasn't dissolving. So it took my like 30 minutes to stir and drink and stir and drink. It was the worst thing I have ever tasted in my life.

Of course I vomited twice. All over the floor. I was super sleepy from the medication I took and from not sleeping right. I didn't die, so I had to go to work at 730. Told boss I threw up and he sent me home. So now I am home and I have a red itchy sore throat, a bad tummy ache (burning, cramping, feels like I'm going to crap myself), and I'm so lethargic.

I would never try that again. I feel awful. People say no pain but my stomach is KILLING me. And my throat hurts I can't even drink water but I'm SOOO thirsty.

your account says new member, did you follow any protocol from the SN guides? or did you just drink it? there are protocols people follow though SN is the only actual requirement.
 
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suffering_mo_7

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I failed it this morning. Tbh not fun and I didn't feel any peace. I did it at like 5am. The drink was horrible! I left the SN to sit in the water for like 5 hours and it wasn't dissolving. So it took my like 30 minutes to stir and drink and stir and drink. It was the worst thing I have ever tasted in my life.

Of course I vomited twice. All over the floor. I was super sleepy from the medication I took and from not sleeping right. I didn't die, so I had to go to work at 730. Told boss I threw up and he sent me home. So now I am home and I have a red itchy sore throat, a bad tummy ache (burning, cramping, feels like I'm going to crap myself), and I'm so lethargic.

I would never try that again. I feel awful. People say no pain but my stomach is KILLING me. And my throat hurts I can't even drink water but I'm SOOO thirsty.
Hmmm, that's unusual. Care to share who your SN source is? I have some and it dissolved super quickly. I'm wondering if you have something else.... sodium nitrate versus sodium nitrite?

I'm not surprised about the stomach issues. I'm sorry and hope you feel better.
 
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nibbleone

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Oct 14, 2023
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I failed it this morning. Tbh not fun and I didn't feel any peace. I did it at like 5am. The drink was horrible! I left the SN to sit in the water for like 5 hours and it wasn't dissolving. So it took my like 30 minutes to stir and drink and stir and drink. It was the worst thing I have ever tasted in my life.

Of course I vomited twice. All over the floor. I was super sleepy from the medication I took and from not sleeping right. I didn't die, so I had to go to work at 730. Told boss I threw up and he sent me home. So now I am home and I have a red itchy sore throat, a bad tummy ache (burning, cramping, feels like I'm going to crap myself), and I'm so lethargic.

I would never try that again. I feel awful. People say no pain but my stomach is KILLING me. And my throat hurts I can't even drink water but I'm SOOO thirsty.
This sounds like a fake post. It's your only post.
 
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rozeske

Maybe I am the problem
Dec 2, 2023
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I failed it this morning. Tbh not fun and I didn't feel any peace. I did it at like 5am. The drink was horrible! I left the SN to sit in the water for like 5 hours and it wasn't dissolving. So it took my like 30 minutes to stir and drink and stir and drink. It was the worst thing I have ever tasted in my life.

Of course I vomited twice. All over the floor. I was super sleepy from the medication I took and from not sleeping right. I didn't die, so I had to go to work at 730. Told boss I threw up and he sent me home. So now I am home and I have a red itchy sore throat, a bad tummy ache (burning, cramping, feels like I'm going to crap myself), and I'm so lethargic.

I would never try that again. I feel awful. People say no pain but my stomach is KILLING me. And my throat hurts I can't even drink water but I'm SOOO thirsty.
When it sat there for 5 hrs not dissolving, that should have been your clue that it's definitely not SN. Stir and drink should never have been your next step. Please do proper research and avoid impulsive uninformed attempts.
 
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HiddenPain

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I failed it this morning. Tbh not fun and I didn't feel any peace. I did it at like 5am. The drink was horrible! I left the SN to sit in the water for like 5 hours and it wasn't dissolving. So it took my like 30 minutes to stir and drink and stir and drink. It was the worst thing I have ever tasted in my life.

Of course I vomited twice. All over the floor. I was super sleepy from the medication I took and from not sleeping right. I didn't die, so I had to go to work at 730. Told boss I threw up and he sent me home. So now I am home and I have a red itchy sore throat, a bad tummy ache (burning, cramping, feels like I'm going to crap myself), and I'm so lethargic.

I would never try that again. I feel awful. People say no pain but my stomach is KILLING me. And my throat hurts I can't even drink water but I'm SOOO thirsty.
Did you test this apparent SN?
SN would take moments to dissolve, trust me I've tested this so you saying 5 hours suggests it wasn't SN or you are simply lying to people.
 
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nux_walpurgis

Me, my whispers and a broken God
Oct 18, 2023
58
SN is the most peaceful method that is readily available (for the moment). N is harder and harder to get even in South America. Of course symptoms may vary from one person to another, but all in all, it's the best thing we can have if we're not willing to travel far.
May I ask what N is?
 
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Unsure and alone

It's a slow fade
Dec 10, 2023
166
I suggest you doing your own research. There's many liars in both camps for numerous reasons (even some who go as far as encouraging others to use it because they don't want to be the only ones). From my own research, SN seems to be different for many...variation in symptoms, what's "tolerable" and failure outcomes. Could be vomiting, stomach and throat pain, tachycardia, trouble breathing, tinnitus, headaches, body pain and weakness, etc. And yes, the guy is right. It CAN last for 45 minutes. I've seen accounts of survivors in here who were conscious at the hospital during treatment and saying that the stomach pain was terrible. I've seen threads of survivors with no lasting effects (some who say it was peaceful but didn't take a full amount) and then some who say they have lasting heart damage, mental/brain damage, bladder/kidney damage, lasting tinnitus. Variable.
This is exactly the kind of information I'd like more people looking into SN to see .
It really does vary by person and dose of SN.
Have you tried multiple times?
Yes , I have.
I've never taken a full kill dose .
That's why I'm still here despite not seeking medical attention.
 
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suffering_mo_7

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May 8, 2024
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This is exactly the kind of information I'd like more people looking into SN to see .
It really does vary by person and dose of SN.

Yes , I have.
I've never taken a full kill dose .
That's why I'm still here despite not seeking medical attention.
Can I ask why you keep only taking small doses? You start taking and then just change your mind?
 
cowboypants

cowboypants

from farm to fork
May 7, 2024
337
It's the most peaceful "accessible" method after N.

There's always lots of fear mongering in posts like these.

Do your own research read people who followed the protocols, what symptoms they had and read research articles which mentions about survivors etc.
 
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orbwithinorb

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Aug 4, 2024
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It's the most "peaceful" "accessible" method after N.
Fixed that for you.
You didn't understand what I said. it's about access, and people can't obtain Nembutal realistically, so SN is the most peaceful and preferable that people have access to. as far as the threads you mention detailing poor experiences with SN, there's no way to know the accuracy of those experiences. many people on this site have an agenda to stop people from killing themselves. PPH designates SN as a 'peaceful' method and those who I talked to who took it, did not describe their experience as painful etc. do what you want, but it's not misinformation. if train, hanging, drowning jumping etc are preferable to others over SN, then that's their choice.
You're a fucking loon homie if you think people are faking anecdotal painful reports of taking SN. Also yes every other way that's not N is also dogshit, that doesn't mean SN isn't dogshit as well
 
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MBG

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Jul 14, 2023
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From what I've gathered, if you have good veins, lethal injection is quick, sure and painless (other than starting the IV).

In theory inert gas asphyxiation (helium, nitrogen), could be even better.

So far only one person has been executed that way. The next one will be in one month: Sept 26

A third is scheduled for this Nov IIRC. All by State of Alabama.
 

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