is recovery possible for everyone?

[Lxions]

just like the title asks, is recovery possible for everyone? ive seen plenty of posts saying how recovery is impossible for certain people, and plenty more saying that everyone has a chance to recover. but what if some people are too far gone, is that even possible? i would like to believe that everyone is able to recover, but i dont know anymore.

i feel like im in too deep, ive tried recovery and failed too many times that it seems pointless to keep attempting. why try and force happiness when i know it's for everyone but myself? i have a few strong support systems, but no matter how hard i try, i just cant get back up.

please. is recovery possible for everyone?

 

[SlowlyFalling]

I personally believe that recovery is possible for everyone. That being said, the way it looks and the degree to which it helps differs from person to person. I, for example, had a lot of success with a combination of therapy and medication, but it took a while. I'm still working at it, but you just have to look for the little victories to keep you going. And also, just as many others before me have said, recovery is not linear. You may feel a little better, and then a lot worse. But if the next time you feel even a little better than the first time, then it is working. I hope you are able to find what you are looking for, and if that is recovery, then I wish you luck.

 

[orca87]

I believe that I it is worth trying for everyone.

It is about coming to peace with the situation were in. Some situations can be so severe or individuals can be so stubborn that recovery is not always successful.

It is still worth trying. Otherwise you'd never have an answer if recovery is possible for you.

Also, there are folks that suffer not only emotionally but also from a terminal or unbearable physical illness. For them, recovery is not possible for apparent reasons.

 

[Shinobu]

I honestly am not sure on one side i do think recovery is possible if you try hard enough and that means anyone can achive it but at the same time not many people are WILLING to try hard enough

 

[orca87]

I honestly am not sure on one side i do think recovery is possible if you try hard enough and that means anyone can achive it but at the same time not many people are WILLING to try hard enough

Or to accept the result of their recovery attempts.

Some people may never achieve their dreams or replace what they've lost. To some, this can mean unbearable suffering, regardless of how hard they try

 

[sunshiningbackwards]

Depends on what kind of recovery we're talking about. For some issues, I genuinely believe CTB to BE the recovery rather than something to avoid doing, especially in regards to incurable or excruciating physical disabilities or illnesses. Additionally, I think for a lot of people on the mental health side of things, recovery is a pipe dream in the current state of most western countries. The world is not going to get easier for mentally ill people and recovery will become less and less of a likelihood for many. A lot of us will slip through the cracks of this uncaring, indifferent and cruel machine. Not saying recovery isn't worth a whole-hearted try by any means, but it's also not guaranteed for anyone.

 

[orca87]

Additionally, I think for a lot of people on the mental health side of things, recovery is a pipe dream in the current state of most western countries. The world is not going to get easier for mentally ill people

So you really think that it was easier for mentally ill people at other times?

Even in the most tolerant societies, atypical people would be tolerated but probably never entirely accepted.

In ancient times, they would've been abandoned straight away…

 

[CTB Dream]

No, rcvr no posbl all sm ppain sffr etc no posbl di any, Injury damage no posbl doany. Also rcvr awful word make ctb simil illne truth life illne life awful no sense

 

[TapeMachine]

I'm not sure. Who am I to speak for everyone when I have no idea what it's like to live inside of their minds day in and day out? I'd like to think that everyone could have a shot; but ultimately, that's up to the individual.

 

[RoundaboutResolved]

People who want to, and try to, then yes recovery might be possible. But no, not for everyone.

 

[sunshiningbackwards]

So you really think that it was easier for mentally ill people at other times?

Even in the most tolerant societies, atypical people would be tolerated but probably never entirely accepted.

In ancient times, they would've been abandoned straight away…

I think a lot of mental illnesses are exacerbated greatly by industrial society. Not only that, but I think a lot of the personality disorders we see are a result of overpopulation/resource scarcity.

 

[Exit-Life]

In my opinion, some people are beyond help. We either live a lifetime of suffering or ctb earlier.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Depends. For me, recovering means just to cope, and that is just not worth it.

 

[cielherpes]

i believe that there's longer and shorter journeys for everyone when it comes to recovery, anyone can recover, but nobody has the same road of recovery than the person nextdoor

 

[kileob]

just like the title asks, is recovery possible for everyone? ive seen plenty of posts saying how recovery is impossible for certain people, and plenty more saying that everyone has a chance to recover. but what if some people are too far gone, is that even possible? i would like to believe that everyone is able to recover, but i dont know anymore.

i feel like im in too deep, ive tried recovery and failed too many times that it seems pointless to keep attempting. why try and force happiness when i know it's for everyone but myself? i have a few strong support systems, but no matter how hard i try, i just cant get back up.

please. is recovery possible for everyone?

personally, i think it is possible for everyone it isn't something that will happen without you making it happen tho, not that you need to "force happiness" whatever that means, but it does take effort to change your way of being/thinking/doing.
(being is more so how you are right now isnt good enough you are not happy realize that you need to make changes in your life that might push you in the right direction its hard i know and sometimes you go deeper into the despair. but hang in there for yourself and know that you are loved.)
(thinking is a little more hard but even in the right environment you can still sabotage yourself with a negative/bad mental, think of it as the glass half empty mindset, not that you need to fake it and think that its half full, just try to branch out if you have a negative thought try to see something good about situations even if its overall a net loss. also you are loved <3 )
(doing is easily the hardest for me personally, but talk is talk at the end of the day you can mean well but you need results, the lack there of should not be your concern tho, rather the effort to get outside of your comfort zone and finally doing something you could never find the energy to do, talking to someone who you miss/want to talk to, not having the idle wake up do the same thing everyday cookie cutter routine is a sure fire way to despair, with that said make sure you make an effort to do something that gives you satisfaction, a smile, something you enjoy or i've found that for myself helping others brings me a lot of satisfaction and actually helps slow my inevitable spirals. lastly, did i mention? i love you, you hecking got this <3 )

 

[UKscotty]

Recovery is possible for anyone, I have seen it many times.

However, my view is still what's the point? Life is pointless and meaningless.

We slave away for decades, thinking we are free. We breed more slaves so they can exist in this misery too.

There is no point in recovering, that's the main point. Recovered or not, you are just a slave.

 

[aubrey!]

realistically, no. some unrealistic scenarios would keep me here a while, though, haha.

 

[Sluggish_Slump]

The question that has to be asked is " Will the quality of life be sufficient enough after a recovery attempt ?". That's relevant for both physical illnesses as well as mental ones. It's not always easy to assess this, but you've got to try and figure it out, and if it's not worth it anymore because the quality of life will be unbearable no matter what , then ctb could be a way to stop the pain.

 

[LittleJem]

I think recovery is a buzz word. But I have met drug/alcohol addicts who have 'recovered' or are in recovery so yes it's possible for them. I'm sure it's possible for people who get a good response to medication too., Without that, for me, I use the word 'enduring' not recovering.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Honestly? After spending a lot of time in spaces like this one full of the downtrodden I sincerely believe some people are destined to suffering and misery.

 

[FuneralCry]

What are people even on about when they say that "recovery is possible for everyone". I see people do this type of thing often where they make statements that only really reflect their own view on life for themselves, yet apply them to absolutely everyone. To believe that life will get "better" for everyone is a belief that is out of touch with reality. Do people seriously think that those with incurable chronic illnesses and terminal illnesses can go through a process to remove their condition, I really don't think so.

But to me there is no such thing as "recovery" when one has awareness. I could never be delusional enough to want to exist in this world filled with unlimited potential for suffering. I think that wanting to die is a perfectly logical response, I have no interest in this futile process where all that we are destined for is to decay from age and suffer a great deal in the process. Life in itself is something harmful and I view it as preferable to not exist, it's not an "illness" viewing life this way, it's just being realistic. The existence of life is a tragic mistake to me, and to die would solve everything for me, life is certainly not for me anyway. And I noticed that the word "everyone" is in the title, you do know that not everyone wants to exist here in the first place.

 

[Catastrofe]

I honestly think that people that say that everyone can recover make at least 2 wrong assumptions:
1 - generalization : if for them or for people around them it worked it does not mean it will work for everyone.
2 - sense of hope : there are some people who simply never been to the point where you feel hopeless, so they won't understand that point of view. Also brain is still a misterious machine and I really believe that there are some mechanism that are far beyond our ability to fix them.
I do not want to be pessimistic about it I do think it is about judgement. If someone says "recovery isn't for me" wtf I shouldn't believe this person? Maybe that feeling will change, maybe not, but, to me at leaat, not to be believed is very painful. Like I am not seen.

 

[EfiLoneVolon]

I honestly think that people that say that everyone can recover make at least 2 wrong assumptions:
1 - generalization : if for them or for people around them it worked it does not mean it will work for everyone.
2 - sense of hope : there are some people who simply never been to the point where you feel hopeless, so they won't understand that point of view. Also brain is still a misterious machine and I really believe that there are some mechanism that are far beyond our ability to fix them.
I do not want to be pessimistic about it I do think it is about judgement. If someone says "recovery isn't for me" wtf I shouldn't believe this person? Maybe that feeling will change, maybe not, but, to me at leaat, not to be believed is very painful. Like I am not seen.

I agree with you. If somebody never experiment severe depression and suicide thoughs, its hard to understand for them what you are living.
Plus, everybody is not equal in term of suffering. Some people who lived terrible life experience will never have suicide ideas whereas other with less traumating event will feel great torment.
I only disagree about "recovery isnt for me".
I dont think everybody is going to vainquish their demons. But, suicidal individual are a lot of time in severe depression,so they dont think rationnaly, they often think the game is over when its really not and even sometimes give up too early without putting a real fight.
Im pessimist tho,everybody dont have a happy ending.

 

[bloberta]

i think it's possible for me but idk if i can hold out long enough to get there.

 

[Hollowman]

Absolutely not, some people are too far gone.

 

[SexyIncél]

Only theoretically: forced lobotomy + sticking a chip in heads to regulate hormones

Practically, no. But we can make HUGE strides. Suppose we trained squads to solve people's problems

You got a broken heart? The heart squad will help train and counsel you, help clean your apartment, matchmake

Got an illness that hyper-specialist doctors keep saying is "psychological"? The med squad will debug you. Coordinating specialists and tests to figure out a holistic picture

Like military badasses, except not kill: heal. You don't have to do it alone, as an individual

 

[LateForTheBus]

Do I think recovery is possible for everyone? Sure. But do I think it's probable for everyone? Definitely not.

 

[FogFilledLife]

You are the only one that can fix yourself, nobody else. If you want it you can, otherwise no.

 

[Catastrofe]

I only disagree about "recovery isnt for me".
I dont think everybody is going to vainquish their demons. But, suicidal individual are a lot of time in severe depression,so they dont think rationnaly, they often think the game is over when its really not and even sometimes give up too early without putting a real fight.

I see I have not explained myself clearly, I actually ment when somebody says it after tried.
However I appreviate your reply and you gave me something to think about :)

 

[Catastrofe]

i think it's possible for me but idk if i can hold out long enough to get there.

Yep, same here

If you want it you can, otherwise no.

This is something I am not sure if I agree with.
I mean that there are things, like depression and suicidal thought, that goes far beyond our will power, deepier and more complicated than that.