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lifeisbutadream

Elementalist
Oct 4, 2018
816
Now that J has gone.

I find it inexplicable that so few are willing to operate such a very high profit internet business selling real n. Thousands of thieving scammers, huge murderous narco drug cartels, but only one single legit n seller in all of Asia, and now he's gone, and only one single man in the entire western hemiisphere!?
 
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IfHeDiesHeDies

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Sep 12, 2018
383
Now that J has gone.

I find it inexplicable that so few are willing to operate such a very high profit internet business selling real n. Thousands of thieving scammers, huge murderous narco drug cartels, but only one single legit n seller in all of Asia, and now he's gone, and only one single man in the entire western hemiisphere!?

There are N sellers dotted all over Asia and S America. They just don't operate on a grand scale as A. Hell, in some countries, pentobarbs are still prescribed as sleeping aids!
 
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lifeisbutadream

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Oct 4, 2018
816
There are N sellers dotted all over Asia and S America. They just don't operate on a grand scale as A. Hell, in some countries, pentobarbs are still prescribed as sleeping aids!


Of course im not interested in a local neighborhood seller but rather a legit place that mails to other countries. Do you know anyplace like that? The thing is in a poor country a person might make a few years salary in a single day buying and mailing old fashioned n sleeping pills that may cost $10 locally and selling it overseas for $500 or something, a cool 5,000% markup!
 
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Lifeisatrap

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Oct 5, 2018
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There are N sellers dotted all over Asia and S America. They just don't operate on a grand scale as A. Hell, in some countries, pentobarbs are still prescribed as sleeping aids!
Really, which countries? Wish I could trade in my powdered sn for powdered nembutal:(
 
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IfHeDiesHeDies

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Sep 12, 2018
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Really, which countries? Wish I could trade in my powdered sn for powdered nembutal:(

Cambodia( my home country), Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Peru, Bolivia
 
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lifeisbutadream

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Oct 4, 2018
816
Cambodia( my home country), Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Peru, Bolivia


Are old fashioned real n sleeping pills still sold in those countries? Do they all require prescriptions from a doctor? We see here on another thread a poor fellow is in Peru and hasn't even been able to obtain veterinary n, and another fellow on that thread said that Bolivia is the same (even tho i understand Bolivia has legalized drugs). So do you know any legit sellers in those countries, like your own, who will ship internationally? Not scammer thieves, they are a dime a dozen, legit and tested and reliable sellers.
 
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IfHeDiesHeDies

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Sep 12, 2018
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Are old fashioned real n sleeping pills still sold in those countries? Do they all require prescriptions from a doctor? We see here on another thread a poor fellow is in Peru and hasn't even been able to obtain veterinary n, and another fellow on that thread said that Bolivia is the same (even tho i understand Bolivia has legalized drugs). So do you know any legit sellers in those countries, like your own, who will ship internationally? Not scammer thieves, they are a dime a dozen, legit and tested and reliable sellers.

I know pentobarbs are sold as sleep aid in Cambodia, Laos and rural Thailand ( Isaan) with prescription. I don't know what legalising drugs in Bolivia entails but I do know that it is legal as long as you have a prescription much like many other meds. You will also need a prescription for both Peru and Bolivia for vet N but I don't think they enforce the laws rigorously ( prob the understatement of the year). I have read somewhere that over 60% of rx and other controlled substances are sold without prescription in Peru. To illustrate the point, there are many reported success stories of people successfully vet N in those places. I personally think the guy in that thread is making things up but decide for yourself.

I don't know any vendors who will ship internationally apart from A. Since I used to work in medicine, I do know some labs which go light on paperwork but they would not sell to individuals afaik.
 
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meowcat

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Aug 9, 2018
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I know pentobarbs are sold as sleep aid in Cambodia, Laos and rural Thailand ( Isaan) with prescription. I don't know what legalising drugs in Bolivia entails but I do know that it is legal as long as you have a prescription much like many other meds. You will also need a prescription for both Peru and Bolivia for vet N but I don't think they enforce the laws rigorously ( prob the understatement of the year). I have read somewhere that over 60% of rx and other controlled substances are sold without prescription in Peru. To illustrate the point, there are many reported success stories of people successfully vet N in those places. I personally think the guy in that thread is making things up but decide for yourself.

I don't know any vendors who will ship internationally apart from A. Since I used to work in medicine, I do know some labs which go light on paperwork but they would not sell to individuals afaik.
Is it really that easy to get pentobarbital in Cambodia?Could you elaborate on how one can go about getting a prescription there.I've been there a couple of times and I'm in South Asia so it's a good option.Also Isaan is an option.Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Cambodia( my home country), Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Peru, Bolivia
Powdered N? But how could you get it? I cannot take the liquid, but I could ingest the powder...
 
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lifeisbutadream

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Oct 4, 2018
816
For years there were !egit sellers of real powdered n coming from China. Johnson for years, and before that Selly Dong etc. Why are there none now? Everything in China is for profit. For their own domestic market they sell everything from poison liquor to sewer oil. Selling n to foreigners is a high profit business and no Chinese citizens are harmed in the bargain, so why now nothing? Also it was odd that only one at a time was doing it before. No competition, just "Johnson". It must have been government sanctioned, operated under government protection.
 
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Nov 28, 2018
261
I'm sure it's available. But i failed my attempt of achieving it. Luckily without losing my money.

But there's a second problem with n powder from unknown sources. You will need to buy rather expensive tests to determine if it's actually and, and to determine the purity. The site that sells those will normally only ship to suffering elderly. Young people need an ID from someone older to fake their reasons.

I think the darkweb can impossible be called a viable option. Only if you have lots of money to spend.
 
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Duqu

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Aug 27, 2018
452
Powdered N? But how could you get it? I cannot take the liquid, but I could ingest the powder...
I'm GUESSING here (I know very little about N other than what the handbook says which is all about liquid and I didn't even pay much attention to that as it's not an option for me), but maybe putting it into capsules and swallowing it? That's what I plan on doing with my SN.
 
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lifeisbutadream

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Oct 4, 2018
816
I'm sure it's available. But i failed my attempt of achieving it. Luckily without losing my money.

But there's a second problem with n powder from unknown sources. You will need to buy rather expensive tests to determine if it's actually and, and to determine the purity. The site that sells those will normally only ship to suffering elderly. Young people need an ID from someone older to fake their reasons.

I think the darkweb can impossible be called a viable option. Only if you have lots of money to spend.



For years there were reliable and legit sources of powdered n from China that were regularly tested by PPH. But now none.
 
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ImsooDone1N

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Nov 22, 2018
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I doubt powder is no longer available entirely- just extremely hard to come by. So glad I got from J when I did. I cannot fathom having to down 200ml of that horrible stuff. My other idea would be to use a simple double boiler method. To reduce a solution of 200-300ml N to 50ml or even powder. I don't see why that would not work.
 
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OkTotti

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Nov 6, 2018
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I doubt powder is no longer available entirely- just extremely hard to come by. So glad I got from J when I did. I cannot fathom having to down 200ml of that horrible stuff. My other idea would be to use a simple double boiler method. To reduce a solution of 200-300ml N to 50ml or even powder. I don't see why that would not work.
Who is this 'J' that you mention?
 
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May 20, 2018
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I doubt powder is no longer available entirely- just extremely hard to come by. So glad I got from J when I did. I cannot fathom having to down 200ml of that horrible stuff. My other idea would be to use a simple double boiler method. To reduce a solution of 200-300ml N to 50ml or even powder. I don't see why that would not work.
I agree, one gulp could be doable, but having to down 2 bottles with that straight up chemical terrible taste - i'm not sure if i'd have to quit half way through. it's real a disappointment the powdered suppliers are gone.
 
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lifeisbutadream

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Oct 4, 2018
816
Who is this 'J' that you mention?


J stands for the Chinese source "Johnson" that sold real powdered n for a number of years. Before J there were other Chinese sellers of real powdered n, legitimate sellers not scammers. A couple of years ago PPH tests showed that J's n was no longer 99% pure but was diminished to 70% and maybe even less, and then J just disappeared. When J first started selling he made some posts on the now closed Suicide Methods Hideout.
 
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lifeisbutadream

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Oct 4, 2018
816
I agree, one gulp could be doable, but having to down 2 bottles with that straight up chemical terrible taste - i'm not sure if i'd have to quit half way through. it's real a disappointment the powdered suppliers are gone.


The powder must be disolved in water so i don't know that it would be much different. I think that if you eat some honey and also some pepto bismol first (i read this) and then sweet liquor after it wouldn't be so bad.
 
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May 20, 2018
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The powder must be disolved in water so i don't know that it would be much different. I think that if you eat some honey and also some pepto bismol first (i read this) and then sweet liquor after it wouldn't be so bad.

I think you could probably do smaller amount of water - and be able to finish it all in one swallow. but yes, honey then sweet liquor would probably improve the experience reguardless. not sure what the point of pepto bismol is though?
 
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lifeisbutadream

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Oct 4, 2018
816
I think you could probably do smaller amount of water - and be able to finish it all in one swallow. but yes, honey then sweet liquor would probably improve the experience reguardless. not sure what the point of pepto bismol is though?


Maybe the Pepto Bismol helps stifle any gag or vomit reflex? I forgot where i read that, maybe Wikipedia.
 
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sadak_the_wanderer

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Mar 19, 2018
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I feel foolish for not getting the powder when it was available.

You could simply put the powder into capsules and swallow them. It would be a lot of capsules but I do not think that would be so terrible.
 
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jay35

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Sep 3, 2018
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I feel foolish for not getting the powder when it was available.

You could simply put the powder into capsules and swallow them. It would be a lot of capsules but I do not think that would be so terrible.
I totally agree. I could've gotten the powder some time back & I didn't.
Really regret it.
 
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lifeisbutadream

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Oct 4, 2018
816
I totally agree. I could've gotten the powder some time back & I didn't.
Really regret it.


Yeah the Chinese were selling the legit powder for years, lastly "Johnson" and before that Selly Dong and others. I don't know why no one has filled in for them anyplace in the world. It's a high profit business.
 
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littlelady774

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Dec 20, 2018
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Someone should email A and convince him to get powdered N to sell. Tell him it would be a huge $$$ maker.

Worth a try. All he needs is a little convincing
 
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TimeToDie

Mage
Jun 13, 2019
521
Someone should email A and convince him to get powdered N to sell. Tell him it would be a huge $$$ maker.

Worth a try. All he needs is a little convincing
Vets like A wouldn't have access to powdered Nembutal.
 
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lifeisbutadream

Elementalist
Oct 4, 2018
816
The problem with the Nembutal business model is that you never get repeat customers.



Actually they sometimes do. There was a person on the old forum I was on who made many orders. She was using it as a sleeping pill. And then the word is spread through the PPH and forums like this so then there are many more customers. A in Mexico has been selling for a long time. I don't understand why he has no competition. And the powder is much easier to ship and store and lasts longer too. The Chinese business calling itself Johnson surely had many many orders and made a lot of money.
 
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TimeToDie

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Jun 13, 2019
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Actually they sometimes do. There was a person on the old forum I was on who made many orders. She was using it as a sleeping pill. And then the word is spread through the PPH and forums like this so then there are many more customers. A in Mexico has been selling for a long time. I don't understand why he has no competition. And the powder is much easier to ship and store and lasts longer too. The Chinese business calling itself Johnson surely had many many orders and made a lot of money.
I would love to have Nembutal, Seconal, or some similar barb for use as a sleep aid. I have severe insomnia and nothing has worked so it's certainly well justified in my case. Still, I can't imagine that many people buy N for anything other than suicide. In addition to suicide and insomnia, N also has potential as a recreational drug though I don't think that's too likely given that there are other much more accessible drugs to have fun with.
 
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lifeisbutadream

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Oct 4, 2018
816
I would love to have Nembutal, Seconal, or some similar barb for use as a sleep aid. I have severe insomnia and nothing has worked so it's certainly well justified in my case. Still, I can't imagine that many people buy N for anything other than suicide. In addition to suicide and insomnia, N also has potential as a recreational drug though I don't think that's too likely given that there are other much more accessible drugs to have fun with.


Do benzos like loazepam not work for you?
 
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Roger

I Liked Ike
May 11, 2019
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Someone should email A and convince him to get powdered N to sell. Tell him it would be a huge $$$ maker.

Worth a try. All he needs is a little convincing
You could do it.
 
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