Is it still possible to obtain SN in the UK

[SilentSadness]

That's their job? SN kills, some people may not be ordering for suicide. Use your brain a little here. It's not pro-life to order wellness checks of a well known poison. Hate this rhetoric here, that because there are welfare departments and they care that they somehow are the problem. Even if one welfare visit gets someone the help they need, it is worth it.
Whilst suicide is valid, you are stupid for denying welfare and help to other people by calling the police system fascist, which you clearly don't even know the meaning of.

It's not pro-life to send police officers to someone's house, intimidate them and expose them for being suicidal in front of friends, neighbours and family, without warning? Their job is to stop crime, and suicide is not a crime, neither is buying SN. There are various posts on here about people feeling unsafe as a result of police welfare checks. You can call me whatever you like but it doesn't help your argument unfortunately. By the way, it doesn't make sense to join a pro-choice suicide forum only to immediately adopt a pro-life stance, like here where you argue against the right to die.

 

[lemonadeandgrapes]

It's not pro-life to send police officers to someone's house, intimidate them and expose them for being suicidal in front of friends, neighbours and family, without warning? Their job is to stop crime, and suicide is not a crime, neither is buying SN. There are various posts on here about people feeling unsafe as a result of police welfare checks. You can call me whatever you like but it doesn't help your argument unfortunately. By the way, it doesn't make sense to join a pro-choice suicide forum only to immediately adopt a pro-life stance, like here where you argue against the right to die.

There's a difference between standing for people going through suicidal thoughts and ideation and wanting to be pro the act of suicide.
Police welfare checks should be divided into intention and actuality. The intention behind them is to check that not only those with suicidal intention make sure that before they commit to something permanent, they have the adequate care and information BEFORE using their own autonomy. You are forgetting that a large percentage of those who are suicidal (including myself) only resorted to feeling that way because of the lack of support and care available. The police providing at least one alternative in case anyone wants to take their own life is NOT pro-life, it is pro-choice.
If you've read the horror stories of police intervention, you will have seen the positives that have also come from them. Not to say that the way the police implement their help is helpful all the time, but if it makes one person feel less alone, it has done its job.
You also dutifully neglect the point I make about how SN may be ordered not just for self-harm but for other people, constituting a crime and hence police welfare checks should be done. Unless you believe that we should be giving this out left right and centre to anyone?
Also this is a pro-choice forum not a pro-suicide. Pro suicide would be advocating for death without thought for help and intervention. I am staunchly pro choice, give people the safety, space, choices, advice, and if they choose after that- then that is their rightful decision.
As someone who has been on this forum in the lowest points, and attempted and thought out their ctb, I know that a welfare check would have been insanely useful to me, as well as numerous other people. Never once did I say I was anti giving people a choice, I am simply not pro-suicide- as anyone reasonable person would be against. Have a good day and next time have a bit of curtesy before spouting stuff.