Is it really that bad?

[DesperateOne]

I've been thinking a lot... Once you get past SI, is it really that big of a deal? Like once the lights go out its pretty much the end. Its like you fall into a deep sleep that has no dreams and that sleep lasts forever. Some people say there is the other side to this whole thing, but I don't buy it. There are thousands of religions around the world with new ones arising almost every single year... Which one of those thousands of religions is correct?

If I take the advice of Christianity/Islam I will land in hell, if I take the advice of Buddhism I will be reborn with bad karma, if I take the advice of Luciferianism nothing happens since I have control over my own destiny/life. Besides, isn't religion just a belief? You believe in the words that a few people wrote on a piece of paper thousands of years ago.... What if what they saw were just hallucinations or what if they lied in order to create a cult and grab power? There are so many holes in the framework of religions that I cannot plug when thinking about them deeply.

I've settled that there is just the abyss that envelops you slowly. Before I die I suffer a little bit, then I get knocked out, then maybe hallucinations start and my life replays in my brains due to some neurochemical processes, then its just darkness, forever... I honestly wish Buddhism or something as wacky as simulation theory is true so I can be reborn into another life and actually have a chance instead of where I've currently put myself.

What do you guys think about this whole thing? Would love to read your thoughts.

 

[MiraiShisen]

Simulation theory is a good one for me, Would like to wake up from this life like from dream. Imagine you die and then you suddenly wake up in different life and you tell yourself what a crazy dream I had :D.
Also heaven would be awesome for me but thats just too good to be true. I kinda imagine heaven like a place where you can re-live your best moments of your life , go wherever you want do whatever you want and dont die. Something like a place where you can create things for yourself fulfill your dreams, be immortal. I know that after some time this would be maybe boring but it would not be bad either.

 

[Nothere01]

I've been thinking a lot... Once you get past SI, is it really that big of a deal? Like once the lights go out its pretty much the end. Its like you fall into a deep sleep that has no dreams and that sleep lasts forever. Some people say there is the other side to this whole thing, but I don't buy it. There are thousands of religions around the world with new ones arising almost every single year... Which one of those thousands of religions is correct?

If I take the advice of Christianity/Islam I will land in hell, if I take the advice of Buddhism I will be reborn with bad karma, if I take the advice of Luciferianism nothing happens since I have control over my own destiny/life. Besides, isn't religion just a belief? You believe in the words that a few people wrote on a piece of paper thousands of years ago.... What if what they saw were just hallucinations or what if they lied in order to create a cult and grab power? There are so many holes in the framework of religions that I cannot plug when thinking about them deeply.

I've settled that there is just the abyss that envelops you slowly. Before I die I suffer a little bit, then I get knocked out, then maybe hallucinations start and my life replays in my brains due to some neurochemical processes, then its just darkness, forever... I honestly wish Buddhism or something as wacky as simulation theory is true so I can be reborn into another life and actually have a chance instead of where I've currently put myself.

What do you guys think about this whole thing? Would love to read your thoughts.

I personally believe in God and that if I followed Jesus Christ as my savior if i commit suicide i will end up in heaven, I am a christian but also am very suicidal , i strongly do not believe in reincarnation, i believe that if one denies Jesus as their savior they might end up in hell because all of hell denied him. I have a friend who committed suicide and she was a christian and when she died she ended up in heaven and met Jesus there but she is now alive because her parents found her and called the paramedics and they revived her.

 

[february in alaska]

I've never put anything into religion or the afterlife, and the only exception is when I find myself on the edge and wonder where the hell I'm heading once it's over. Logically, I know it's nothing. But my tiny mortal brain can't comprehend the idea of eternal unconsciousness and so it's kind of comforting to entertain the idea that I'd be going somewhere nice.

My ideal afterlife is an eternal sleep, the kind where you're half awake and you can hear things happening outside the room, but you feel totally at peace and you don't have any obligations or reasons to get up. You can just sink into the blankets and know that you aren't alone and you can just rest forever. If I had to entertain any more standard idea, I think some kind of Buddhist/reincarnation idea would be nice, so long as I wasn't reincarnated as a human. At the end of the day, I don't believe in any of it... but like I said, it's a nice thought.

 

[paroxysm]

i agree with your statement about religion but with Christianity hell specifically it is described as a place full of darkness in the bible not flames [i do not interpret verses talking about flames in hell as literal but metaphorical]. it is a place without light. Matthew 8:12 "While the sons of the kingdom will be thrown into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." i have a theory that nothingness after death is actually hell. we can comprehend pain like being burned or seeing fire but we cannot comprehend not having a conscious.

 

[CoffeeCrow]

I've been thinking a lot... Once you get past SI, is it really that big of a deal? Like once the lights go out its pretty much the end. Its like you fall into a deep sleep that has no dreams and that sleep lasts forever. Some people say there is the other side to this whole thing, but I don't buy it. There are thousands of religions around the world with new ones arising almost every single year... Which one of those thousands of religions is correct?

If I take the advice of Christianity/Islam I will land in hell, if I take the advice of Buddhism I will be reborn with bad karma, if I take the advice of Luciferianism nothing happens since I have control over my own destiny/life. Besides, isn't religion just a belief? You believe in the words that a few people wrote on a piece of paper thousands of years ago.... What if what they saw were just hallucinations or what if they lied in order to create a cult and grab power? There are so many holes in the framework of religions that I cannot plug when thinking about them deeply.

I've settled that there is just the abyss that envelops you slowly. Before I die I suffer a little bit, then I get knocked out, then maybe hallucinations start and my life replays in my brains due to some neurochemical processes, then its just darkness, forever... I honestly wish Buddhism or something as wacky as simulation theory is true so I can be reborn into another life and actually have a chance instead of where I've currently put myself.

What do you guys think about this whole thing? Would love to read your thoughts.

All of these belief systems are human made and nobody has left and come back to actually tell us what it's like. We have no idea. Non-existence is just like our state before the entire process of being born. It has no adjectives other than "that"

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I agree all the way except when you refered to simulation theory a wacky since it is at least as plausible as religion and even makes more sense I think and I would love it to be real so to wake up after death to hopefully an amazing life but yeah we probably just seize to exist.

But could I choose myself I hope when I die I will wake up as a child living my childhood over again while it resets when I enter puberty so I can relive it again exactly the same way in a never ending loop while of course having recollection of it so it seems new, fun, exciting and magical all over again that would be my defenition of heaven.

 

[DesperateOne]

I agree all the way except when you refered to simulation theory a wacky since it is at least as plausible as religion and even makes more sense I think and I would love it to be real so to wake up after death to hopefully an amazing life but yeah we probably just seize to exist.

But could I choose myself I hope when I die I will wake up as a child living my childhood over again while it resets when I enter puberty so I can relive it again exactly the same way in a never ending loop while of course having recollection of it so it seems new, fun, exciting and magical all over again that would be my defenition of heaven.

I'll be honest the only reason why I referred to the simulation theory as wacky is because I thought I was going to get judged for it. When I mention it in casual conversation IRL people think there is something wrong with me... Now it could be that I'm just socially inept and its not the right time to bring such a topic up, but still...

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I'll be honest the only reason why I referred to the simulation theory as wacky is because I thought I was going to get judged for it. When I mention it in casual conversation IRL people think there is something wrong with me... Now it could be that I'm just socially inept and its not the right time to bring such a topic up, but still...

Not many people would admit that so mad respect for that. But I get you it´s like if you want to bring up that topic you have to make sure that people know that you don´t fully believe it otherwise they would view you as a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist which is absurd since so many people believe in religion which to me it as ridiculous as an adult believing in Santa Claus or The ToothFairy. There is also the thing that if you believe in e.g. simulation theory psychiatrist among others would deem you mentally ill and the explanation I got as to why the same doesn´t count for religion well I can´t exactly remember but it was something about it´s because the majority of people believe in it whereas if you believe in some other niche it´s apparently because you´re mentally ill (can´t remember what illness they meant)

I also made this thread a long time ago about the simulation theory you might find it interesting. And for some reason I feel obligated to say (like you did not to get judged) that I don´t believe fully in the simulation theory but I do think it is more likely to be true than religion also because there are like several experiments that hints it could be true one being the double split experiment where as religion has no proof at all only old stories which like you said most likely either was made to get power by creating a cult or people hallucinating which I have thought about sometimes which would make sense because imagine you lived thousands of years ago and eat a psychedelic mushroom or eat or make tea from a peyote cactus which contains mescaline and they start hallucinating which would seem quite real to them which I guess it is because it becomes there reality for a time under the influence so Moses watching a burning bush talk in the voice of God seems pretty likely that if it was true he was probably high as fuck on some hallucinogen. Or these religious stories could have been from charismatic schizophrenic people so if these very likeable and smart people talk very convincingly of what they saw and heard then it makes more sense that lesser minds or naive minds who look up to this likeable person believes in it.

But all in all it´s hard for me to fully believe in anything it must be nice to feel like "I know to be true" whether it is or not because it would only give us comfort to know what happens after death especially if it´s positive.

 

[FuneralCry]

I very strongly believe death to just be permanent nothingness, death is simply nothing more than a peaceful, dreamless and eternal sleep where all is forgotten about. Any of those other theories are completely fictional to me, I just believe that we once we lose consciousness that is it for us, we are gone, it really is so comforting to think of not existing for all eternity.