Help Is it illegal to assist to someone's suicide?

[kilowatt]

Pretty much title.
Would the other person get in trouble if I were to have someone assist me through my suicide? For example if I streamed it online for someone else to watch and comfort me through it?
With a little research I found out police can easily check your social media after you die, even if you logged out of it or deleted it. I wouldn't wanna put that pressure on someone else, however I would really enjoy having someone online of physical watch me and comfort me.

 

[Chelsea Leng]

the one who watched your suicide but didn't prevent or report to police will get into trouble.
doing it with another suicidal person and you both ctb, then no problem will arise.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

It depends on law in your country where you live. Sweden might be an option if you live there:

Why assisted suicide should not be legal.

Read this before replying, I'm not against suicide neither assisted suicide. I'm just stating a fact which must not be ignored before considering assisted suicide. What is assisted suicide? Assisted suicide is suicide undertaken with the aid of another person. I'll denote it by AS. See the...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[LittleCupcake]

It is, it'll be treated the as same if you assisted a murder. I dont think the police will investergate it much so if you stream it and hide it then they cant really do anything

 

[rozeske]

Yes? I don't think there is a place where you won't get in trouble for assisting a suicide.

 

[kilowatt]

It is, it'll be treated the as same if you assisted a murder. I dont think the police will investergate it much so if you stream it and hide it then they cant really do anything

I think it would be a good idea to stream it on a website where the other person appears as anonymous.. But if we plan a script or something beforehand then it's probably gonna remain in some vague texts, would those be enough to get the other guy sanctioned? I'm thinking they can't be enough proof, but I'm uncertain hence I asked about it.

 

[LittleCupcake]

I think it would be a good idea to stream it on a website where the other person appears as anonymous.. But if we plan a script or something beforehand then it's probably gonna remain in some vague texts, would those be enough to get the other guy sanctioned? I'm thinking they can't be enough proof, but I'm uncertain hence I asked about it.

You would only need to hide it surface level, if your found dead and theres no evidence of foul play the investergation ends. whatsapp or telegram is good coz the police would need a warrent to uncover deleted converstations or search anyones devices. If its streamed from a encrypted source then that would be enough

 

[4.I.2.Must.Die]

doing it with another suicidal person and you both ctb, then no problem will arise.

Well duh it's not like they're gonna bring one of you back to life for reprimanding

 

[Tears in Rain]

Pretty much title.
Would the other person get in trouble if I were to have someone assist me through my suicide? For example if I streamed it online for someone else to watch and comfort me through it?
With a little research I found out police can easily check your social media after you die, even if you logged out of it or deleted it. I wouldn't wanna put that pressure on someone else, however I would really enjoy having someone online of physical watch me and comfort me.

If you're just talking about having someone online watching you to comfort you, then no, it's not illegal. There would be no way of proving they assisted you in any way.

There has been some SN goodbye threads here where people watched online.

Someone recently added a post to that old SN goodbye thread from @Moonicide.
That was watched:

FIRST EVER SN DOCUMENTATION

Dear everyone, This thread will be about the documentation of the cbt of user @Moonicide (29 years old) Who took her life on Jan 12th at 00:30 EST. She was a dear friend of mine that I met on this forum. She loved this forum and it's users. The forum helped her allot during her last days. And...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[bipbapbop]

the one who watched your suicide but didn't prevent or report to police will get into trouble.
doing it with another suicidal person and you both ctb, then no problem will arise.

What happens if one person doesn't CTB due to SI? Do they get in trouble?

 

[kilowatt]

If you're just talking about having someone online watching you to comfort you, then no, it's not illegal. There would be no way of proving they assisted you in any way.

There has been some SN goodbye threads here where people watched.

Someone recently added a post to that old SN goodbye thread from @Moonicide.
That was watched:

FIRST EVER SN DOCUMENTATION

Dear everyone, This thread will be about the documentation of the cbt of user @Moonicide (29 years old) Who took her life on Jan 12th at 00:30 EST. She was a dear friend of mine that I met on this forum. She loved this forum and it's users. The forum helped her allot during her last days. And...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Thank you, that does help a lot!

 

[Silent Raindrops]

What happens if one person doesn't CTB due to SI? Do they get in trouble?

If you make a pact with someone and they die, but you survive, yes, you can be held accountable, even charged with murder.

 

[steppingoff]

Pretty much title.
Would the other person get in trouble if I were to have someone assist me through my suicide? For example if I streamed it online for someone else to watch and comfort me through it?
With a little research I found out police can easily check your social media after you die, even if you logged out of it or deleted it. I wouldn't wanna put that pressure on someone else, however I would really enjoy having someone online of physical watch me and comfort me.

Generally yes it would be classified at the least as manslaughter.

 

[Kit1]

Definitely illegal in the UK and not worth taking the risk.

 

[steppingoff]

I think it would be a good idea to stream it on a website where the other person appears as anonymous.. But if we plan a script or something beforehand then it's probably gonna remain in some vague texts, would those be enough to get the other guy sanctioned? I'm thinking they can't be enough proof, but I'm uncertain hence I asked about it.

I think anonymity is the best approach. I plan to stream, but I know it can expose the watchers. So, I am doing my best to set it up in a way that they can only see it. That way they can['t be found responsible about what is going on

 

[theboy]

humanly it is considered morally wrong and legally you are practically being a murderer or a participant in a death. you can get into trouble.

 

[thetruetato]

Pretty much title.
Would the other person get in trouble if I were to have someone assist me through my suicide? For example if I streamed it online for someone else to watch and comfort me through it?
With a little research I found out police can easily check your social media after you die, even if you logged out of it or deleted it. I wouldn't wanna put that pressure on someone else, however I would really enjoy having someone online of physical watch me and comfort me.

It can depend on what country you live in, but in most countries it is considered some type of crime. In the US it is highly illegal in 99% of cases (the 1% being assisted suicide by doctors for people with terminal illnesses who live in either Oregon or Washington).

 

[kilowatt]

humanly it is considered morally wrong and legally you are practically being a murderer or a participant in a death. you can get into trouble.

Is it really considered wrong in all cases? My view on suicide might just be different. I'd feel pleased being comforted and reassured in my last moments.

 

[theboy]

Is it really considered wrong in all cases? My view on suicide might just be different. I'd feel pleased being comforted and reassured in my last moments.

because the law says otherwise. There was a case of a man who helped a girl to ctb and ended up in jail or something like that but he had criminal consequences. i guess in all casesor is it possible in real life, if you know what i mean?

 

[Raindancer]

I really don't want to CTB alone, but I would never put another person in the position that they could get in trouble. I feel guilty enough without adding the worry that I have now gotten someone in trouble. I think most countries take this pretty seriously, but I could be wrong.

 

[sadman710]

Yeah it is. You're better to just keep it to yourself and don't encourage anyone or have any action in the involvement. Let them handle it.

 

[Guy_Smiley]

While it is illegal to assist someone in suicide, simply watching someone kill themselves and comforting them is not considered assisting (at least this is the case in the USA). So, to answer your question, someone watching your livestream of your suicide and giving you comfort would not be breaking any laws (again, at least in the USA). They could even be in the same room as you holding your hand and still no laws would be broken.

 

[Linda]

It depends what you means by "assist". If you do something that actively helps with their suicide (e.g. buying SN for them, pushing them off a tall building because they are too scared to jump, or pulling a trigger), that would be illegal almost everywhere. But someone simply talking to you while you go through with it, provided they are not actively encouraging you to do it, would not be illegal (at least in most countries). In most countries, unless you have some special kind of relation to a person (e.g. you are their professional therapist), you do not have any legal obligation to try to keep them alive, even if you know that they are about to ctb, nor do you have any legal obligation to report them to the authorities if you know they are about to ctb.

Thou shalt not kill; but need'st not strive
Officiously to keep alive.

 

[walkingdead2023]

Pretty much title.
Would the other person get in trouble if I were to have someone assist me through my suicide? For example if I streamed it online for someone else to watch and comfort me through it?
With a little research I found out police can easily check your social media after you die, even if you logged out of it or deleted it. I wouldn't wanna put that pressure on someone else, however I would really enjoy having someone online of physical watch me and comfort me.

Who wants to see you dying?! In my opinion streaming your death is just ILL and yes it's illegal don't put anyone in trouble. I found that people trying to be creative with their death here it makes me question their moral

While it is illegal to assist someone in suicide, simply watching someone kill themselves and comforting them is not considered assisting (at least this is the case in the USA). So, to answer your question, someone watching your livestream of your suicide and giving you comfort would not be breaking any laws (again, at least in the USA). They could even be in the same room as you holding your hand and still no laws would be broken.

im not sure about that!! Everyone is mandated reporter so while you're watching someone killing themselves you should be calling for help not providing comfort and that is in the US so it's illegal.

 

[kilowatt]

Who wants to see you dying?! In my opinion streaming your death is just ILL and yes it's illegal don't put anyone in trouble. I found that people trying to be creative with their death here it makes me question their moral

What's your point? I never said I want to stream it worldwide on twitch or jump in front of a crowd. I obviously wouldn't let anyone I don't have an incredibly close relationship watch me. As a matter of fact that's why I asked if it's legal in the first place - I would not be happy with getting someone in trouble that way.

 

[wait.what]

Does anyone know of any U.S. case law at the federal level on the subject of being present (physically or virtually) at someone's suicide? If we don't have that, then I'd assume every state is different.

 

[Worndown]

The need for retribution and to assign blame knows no bounds.

 

[Guy_Smiley]

... Everyone is mandated reporter so while you're watching someone killing themselves you should be calling for help not providing comfort and that is in the US so it's illegal.

That is factually incorrect. A person has no legal duty to rescue another person or call for help (except for in very rare instances, e.g. a parent or caretaker of a minor, an employer of an employee on the job, etc). And there are no laws in the USA prohibiting providing comfort to a dying person, even in the case of suicide.

Edit: There were some states that actually did have laws which made it illegal to not call for help in certain situations, but they only resulted in misdemeanors (not felonies), and these laws were rarely applied and generally ignored by lawmakers. As of present day, I'm not sure how many states still have these laws, but the vast majority do not. But even if the person viewing and/or comforting the dying person was in one of these states that still do, the worst they would be facing is a misdemeanor and a fine, and more than likely, not even that.