Method is fent a quality method?

[underscore_nine]

hi, im going to try and order the materials i need through a Tor site and considering using fent. I have 0 tolerance for really any drug at all, i've drank a few times in my life but otherwise i've never touched any drug. i've heard fent is super dangerous and using a lot of it will be an instant blissful death. How reliable is it and is it painless? If not would SN be a better idea to order from a Tor site if they sell it? Thanks

 

[DreamEnd]

hi, im going to try and order the materials i need through a Tor site and considering using fent. I have 0 tolerance for really any drug at all, i've drank a few times in my life but otherwise i've never touched any drug. i've heard fent is super dangerous and using a lot of it will be an instant blissful death. How reliable is it and is it painless? If not would SN be a better idea to order from a Tor site if they sell it? Thanks

I don't think they sell fentanyl on dark net. Same thing with sn

 

[Goku Black]

I don't think they sell fentanyl on dark net. Same thing with sn

And here i thought they do.

 

[underscore_nine]

I don't think they sell fentanyl on dark net. Same thing with sn

:( that was one of my only hopes. Oh well, lethal amounts of heroin will have to do (hoping for the best)

 

[DreamEnd]

And here i thought they do.

correct me if I am wrong but I have checked recently and I think fentanyl is banned. There was carfentanyl on one of the markets but at a price of 3000$ I think in bulk minimum. Regardless of that there are powerful analogies of fentanyl such as nitazenes that are sold there from China. Still no sn though

:( that was one of my only hopes. Oh well, lethal amounts of heroin will have to do (hoping for the best)

Research nitazenes(isotonitazene, protonitazene etc) they are supposedly more powerful than fent and are sold there

 

[nozomu]

hi, im going to try and order the materials i need through a Tor site and considering using fent. I have 0 tolerance for really any drug at all, i've drank a few times in my life but otherwise i've never touched any drug. i've heard fent is super dangerous and using a lot of it will be an instant blissful death. How reliable is it and is it painless? If not would SN be a better idea to order from a Tor site if they sell it? Thanks

I failed an opioid attempt in 2022. They are not reliable on their own. They metabolize very strangely compared to drugs like barbiturates and might knock you out but don't necessarily reliably cause respiratory depression which is how CTB would occur from opioid. There's also not a reliable way to calculate a lethal dose from it. Also, if you are found, narcan will save you. I wouldn't recommend it because it's a high likelihood you'd just be leaving with organ damage and an addiction, not death. Doesn't mean it won't happen, but I wouldn't chance it as someone who survived an attempt similar.

 

[underscore_nine]

I failed an opioid attempt in 2022. They are not reliable on their own. They metabolize very strangely compared to drugs like barbiturates and might knock you out but don't necessarily reliably cause respiratory depression which is how CTB would occur from opioid. There's also not a reliable way to calculate a lethal dose from it. Also, if you are found, narcan will save you. I wouldn't recommend it because it's a high likelihood you'd just be leaving with organ damage and an addiction, not death. Doesn't mean it won't happen, but I wouldn't chance it as someone who survived an attempt similar.

SN is so fucking hard to source in canada, there's a heavy limitation in it when shipping so in short im pretty fucked for finding a reliable source able to provide me with SN :(

 

[Goku Black]

There was carfentanyl on one of the markets but at a price of 3000$ I think in bulk minimum. Regardless of that there are powerful analogies of fentanyl such as nitazenes that are sold there from China. Still no sn though

Woah that much although that's in bulk but I really thought Fent was still on the dark net somehow. How much Nitazenes be anyway? I don't think SN will hit the dark net for now though but I could be wrong.

I failed an opioid attempt in 2022. They are not reliable on their own. They metabolize very strangely compared to drugs like barbiturates and might knock you out but don't necessarily reliably cause respiratory depression which is how CTB would occur from opioid. There's also not a reliable way to calculate a lethal dose from it. Also, if you are found, narcan will save you. I wouldn't recommend it because it's a high likelihood you'd just be leaving with organ damage and an addiction, not death. Doesn't mean it won't happen, but I wouldn't chance it as someone who survived an attempt similar.

I was scrolling past an old thread from September with a user stating that SN is a pretty stupid method in comparison to Opiates rcs, even stating that you could ctb from it without much fuss if you have a low tolerance or don't get narcan. If it causes Respiratory depression then wouldn't it be better to mix with a benzo possibly?. It's also worrying how there isn't a reliable way to calculate a lethal dose because it sounds like it'll come down to eyeballing it and hoping for the best. Are there long-term issues from your opiod attempt ?

 

[DreamEnd]

Woah that much although that's in bulk but I really thought Fent was still on the dark net somehow. How much Nitazenes be anyway? I don't think SN will hit the dark net for now though but I could be wrong.

I was scrolling past an old thread from September with a user stating that SN is a pretty stupid method in comparison to Opiates rcs, even stating that you could ctb from it without much fuss if you have a low tolerance or don't get narcan. If it causes Respiratory depression then wouldn't it be better to mix with a benzo possibly?. It's also worrying how there isn't a reliable way to calculate a lethal dose because it sounds like it'll come down to eyeballing it and hoping for the best. Are there long-term issues from your opiod attempt ?

Nitazenes are abou 100-150 for a lethal dose

 

[Soc]

Kinda a nice idea but I think I'd likely wake up with an addiction to add to my problems. Think I'll look at more certain methods rather than the risk of being found covered alive in vomit and pee.

 

[Goku Black]

Nitazenes are abou 100-150 for a lethal dose

Is it weight dependent or just within that range across the board?

 

[Rhizomorph1]

Opioid Megathread & Overview

Preamble I wanted to write something similar to Stan's guide to SN but I hesitate to call this a guide because I can't in good conscience make a guide for something so unreliable in terms of access, lethality, and risk of permanent injury. I.e., traumatic brain injury from hypoxia. SN is a far...

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Not very reliable, but they are more reliable than many other drugs.

I'd rate them as having low to moderate reliability.

 

[DreamEnd]

Is it weight dependent or just within that range across the board?

There are different zenes(isotonitazene, protonitazene, metonitazene) they fluctuate maybe 25-50$ in price but overall weight dependent yes but lethal dose is about 100-150$ for a gram

 

[underscore_nine]

if SN isn't sold on the DN would a firearm be a better option? I don't know how difficult or track able ordering one is via the internet. I wish they'd just ship SN to canada. I stg if i had the time i'd create a front for a meat transport business and use it to sell SN to people who need it

 

[DreamEnd]

if SN isn't sold on the DN would a firearm be a better option? I don't know how difficult or track able ordering one is via the internet. I wish they'd just ship SN to canada. I stg if i had the time i'd create a front for a meat transport business and use it to sell SN to people who need it

Are there no Canada sn sources ?

 

[Goku Black]

There are different zenes(isotonitazene, protonitazene, metonitazene) they fluctuate maybe 25-50$ in price but overall weight dependent yes but lethal dose is about 100-150$ for a gram

Hmm interesting, thanks Mike

Opioid Megathread & Overview

Preamble I wanted to write something similar to Stan's guide to SN but I hesitate to call this a guide because I can't in good conscience make a guide for something so unreliable in terms of access, lethality, and risk of permanent injury. I.e., traumatic brain injury from hypoxia. SN is a far...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Not very reliable, but they are more reliable than many other drugs.

I'd rate them as having low to moderate reliability.

Hmm, and here I really thought they were better than SN albeit the only issue being availability and the fact that it's easier to get sn and not potentially get in trouble as much.

 

[DreamEnd]

Hmm interesting, thanks Mike

Hmm, and here I really thought they were better than SN albeit the only issue being availability and the fact that it's easier to get sn and not potentially get in trouble as much.

How I would sedate myself into death, legally. I study pharmacology.

So I made a thread that is now flooded with a million different ways to have a sedated death (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/whats-in-your-suicide-kit-i-study-pharmacology.113882/page-4) with legal research chemicals that can be bought online, since I keep getting asked how I would do...

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This dude has opioid method with nitazenes. It I don't know anyone who went that way that's why I haven't tried it even though I have access to them. It's just too scary compared to a proven track record with sn

 

[underscore_nine]

Are there no Canada sn sources ?

i seriously can't find any and im losing hope tbh

 

[Goku Black]

How I would sedate myself into death, legally. I study pharmacology.

So I made a thread that is now flooded with a million different ways to have a sedated death (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/whats-in-your-suicide-kit-i-study-pharmacology.113882/page-4) with legal research chemicals that can be bought online, since I keep getting asked how I would do...

sanctioned-suicide.net

This dude has opioid method with nitazenes. It I don't know anyone who went that way that's why I haven't tried it even though I have access to them. It's just too scary compared to a proven track record with sn

I conceded at one point that Opiates are better but I was always worried about the cases where people end up addicted to it especially taking a near fatal dose but yeah, because SN has a bit more of a track record we can learn from, I trust what goes on there more than opiates. Also, i want to take this time to apologize for yesterday's thread when we spoke about Meto and Dom.

 

[tidal1]

How about combining opiates and sn? That might be a stupid question, but I can't help but think the opiates might make everything more peaceful and could help mitigate some potential pain with sn. Downside is the added chance of vommitting, I suppose, but I'd be interested to hear what others think.

 

[Goku Black]

How about combining opiates and sn? That might be a stupid question, but I can't help but think the opiates might make everything more peaceful and could help mitigate some potential pain with sn. Downside is the added chance of vommitting, I suppose, but I'd be interested to hear what others think.

I highly don't support going for two methods at once especially in this case. I personally think that it's better to just go for the one and make sure you get done right. I also think we have to take into factor how such a mixture would effect an individual, nevermind the interactions between the two.

 

[nozomu]

SN is so fucking hard to source in canada, there's a heavy limitation in it when shipping so in short im pretty fucked for finding a reliable source able to provide me with SN :(

Some users have had success sourcing from Chinese wholesalers who may be willing to mislabel contents. Ask around and someone might be willing to give some hints (I am not the guy for that, beyond the tidbit I've said here).

Woah that much although that's in bulk but I really thought Fent was still on the dark net somehow. How much Nitazenes be anyway? I don't think SN will hit the dark net for now though but I could be wrong.

I was scrolling past an old thread from September with a user stating that SN is a pretty stupid method in comparison to Opiates rcs, even stating that you could ctb from it without much fuss if you have a low tolerance or don't get narcan. If it causes Respiratory depression then wouldn't it be better to mix with a benzo possibly?. It's also worrying how there isn't a reliable way to calculate a lethal dose because it sounds like it'll come down to eyeballing it and hoping for the best. Are there long-term issues from your opiod attempt ?

I got REALLY lucky to not have long term organ damage but I SHOULD HAVE had it. Opioids basically easily make you vomit, and that throws most methods out the window. I have basically a virgin tolerance to opioids too because they make me ill so I didn't even take them when prescribed. But I am still here, despite taking several grams of prescription level stuff.

It is nigh impossible to calculate a reliable, lethal dose of opioids simply because of how the biological mechanism works for them. it isn't like barbiturates where respiratory depression is easy to induce. It very well could just knock you out. Often times overdose victims don't die of respiratory depression but rather aspiration of vomit, which you'd be acutely aware of but too zoinked to move to prevent.

If opioids were reliable they'd be listed in PPeH considering how easy it is to source them as a drug of abuse. I wish more people would read it, because genuinely it provides helpful information and helps you understand a bit more WHY certain methods work reliably for anyone who attempts them. There's infinitely many ways to kill yourself but not all of them are reliably lethal. The reason PPeH and also SaSu membership discusses a select number of methods is because a very, very small number of them are peaceful (which increases ability to carry out the act) and also reliable (which is a harm reduction measure, as it's better to achieve the death you desire rather than induce suffering by failed attempt).

 

[RichardFirst]

I would say that fentanyl will only be available on the streets. SN will eventually be available on the dark web as it becomes harder to find "legally".

 

[Goku Black]

Opioids basically easily make you vomit, and that throws most methods out the window. I have basically a virgin tolerance to opioids too because they make me ill so I didn't even take them when prescribed. But I am still here, despite taking several grams of prescription level stuff.

Well then, that throws out the whole notion of a dose being able to kill without even trying if you have a low tolerance. To add to that, you took several grams which to me, it's even a surprise you survived unscathed by organ damage because that's a LOT.

It very well could just knock you out. Often times overdose victims don't die of respiratory depression but rather aspiration of vomit, which you'd be acutely aware of but too zoinked to move to prevent.

Woah, that sounds scary. Imagine being completely out of it and realizing that your choking on vomit even if it is acutely.

I wish more people would read it, because genuinely it provides helpful information and helps you understand a bit more WHY certain methods work reliably for anyone who attempts them. There's infinitely many ways to kill yourself but not all of them are reliably lethal. The reason PPeH and also SaSu membership discusses a select number of methods is because a very, very small number of them are peaceful (which increases ability to carry out the act) and also reliable (which is a harm reduction measure, as it's better to achieve the death you desire rather than induce suffering by failed attempt).

I still have the 2022 PPH edition that I found on the forum when I first begun learning about SN. It definitely does provide as to why certain methods work, not just placing them there as an option for whoever thinks they could go through with it. Yeah, from poisonous plants to going on the highway and hoping a truck hits you at full speed but those aren't reliable are they?

You're also on point about how very, very few methods are discussed here since they are peaceful or relatively as such compared to the real violent methods that involve major trauma to the body that you could still recover from and live the rest of your life in more agony from the injuries with a low level of reliability.

I would say that fentanyl will only be available on the streets. SN will eventually be available on the dark web as it becomes harder to find "legally".

I think tighter restrictions have been taking shape but luckily where I'm from, there's been absolutely no suicides related to SN enough to cause any noise about its availability to the public. Also, deaths from SN are all too infrequently reported so there could be more deaths out there from the method unaccounted for.

 

[DreamEnd]

I conceded at one point that Opiates are better but I was always worried about the cases where people end up addicted to it especially taking a near fatal dose but yeah, because SN has a bit more of a track record we can learn from, I trust what goes on there more than opiates. Also, i want to take this time to apologize for yesterday's thread when we spoke about Meto and Dom.

you are good bro we all just trying to learn. Dying is more frustrating than living

Some users have had success sourcing from Chinese wholesalers who may be willing to mislabel contents. Ask around and someone might be willing to give some hints (I am not the guy for that, beyond the tidbit I've said here).


I got REALLY lucky to not have long term organ damage but I SHOULD HAVE had it. Opioids basically easily make you vomit, and that throws most methods out the window. I have basically a virgin tolerance to opioids too because they make me ill so I didn't even take them when prescribed. But I am still here, despite taking several grams of prescription level stuff.

It is nigh impossible to calculate a reliable, lethal dose of opioids simply because of how the biological mechanism works for them. it isn't like barbiturates where respiratory depression is easy to induce. It very well could just knock you out. Often times overdose victims don't die of respiratory depression but rather aspiration of vomit, which you'd be acutely aware of but too zoinked to move to prevent.

If opioids were reliable they'd be listed in PPeH considering how easy it is to source them as a drug of abuse. I wish more people would read it, because genuinely it provides helpful information and helps you understand a bit more WHY certain methods work reliably for anyone who attempts them. There's infinitely many ways to kill yourself but not all of them are reliably lethal. The reason PPeH and also SaSu membership discusses a select number of methods is because a very, very small number of them are peaceful (which increases ability to carry out the act) and also reliable (which is a harm reduction measure, as it's better to achieve the death you desire rather than induce suffering by failed attempt).

what if you snort the opioids? will it still make you vomit? I thought snorting fent or nitazenes with some benzo is guaranteed?

 

[Goku Black]

you are good bro we all just trying to learn. Dying is more frustrating than living

Appreciate that man and yeah it can be a lot sometimes to think about.

 

[Centraloze]

China white will either be really pure heroin (not likely) or a mix containing a synthetic opioid for the effect, like fent (most likely). Hope that helps.

 

[nozomu]

I would say that fentanyl will only be available on the streets. SN will eventually be available on the dark web as it becomes harder to find "legally".

Probably unlikely. There's no reason for a dealer of SN to exist. It has no recreational use and people have no interest in selling substances that do not have repeat customers. That's why you barely see sellers of N even though it does have recreational potential.

 

[Goku Black]

Probably unlikely. There's no reason for a dealer of SN to exist. It has no recreational use and people have no interest in selling substances that do not have repeat customers. That's why you barely see sellers of N even though it does have recreational potential.

Yeah, it really isn't something that's for repeat customers considering it's a one and done for people who will use it to to ctb.

 

[DreamEnd]

Probably unlikely. There's no reason for a dealer of SN to exist. It has no recreational use and people have no interest in selling substances that do not have repeat customers. That's why you barely see sellers of N even though it does have recreational potential.

I mean D was making bank off of N. If that's just one guy on dw selling sodium nitrite at like 200-300$ that can potentially be lucrative