Help Is cutting my own throat a reliable way to die?

[Repllica]

I've already cut my arms in self-harm with scissors. Hit the nerve, and pain wasn't gradeur as I tought would be. So, if i reach my carotid arteries, and cut it, would i loose counsciouness as if i hang myself??

 

[SummerTrip]

Yes, if you actually manage to cut the carotids you'd loose consciousness really fast. Even faster than hanging. However, SI is strong no matter your condition, unless you are in a manic episode and quite literally can't control yourself, so the chances of success are low.
Take care and maybe think of less "extreme" methods of achieving your goal.

 

[Jello Biafra]

At the risk of being accused of being "pro life", that isn't my intention. I just don't want you to end up a lot worse off.

I'm simply going to suggest you find something else. Your carotids are not close to the surface as many people think - you have a significant amount of neck muscles in the way. For hanging to occlude the carotid arteries the neck has to be compressed by about 20%. That's a lot of muscle and tissue to cut through and from what I heard from a friend who is a cutter, muscle is extremely tough to cut. Go try to cut a raw steak from a weird angle and imagine how tough that'd be. Unless you have an iron will, you will most likely just end up with significant lifelong injuries, possibly breathing and eating through a tube, and possibly having to learn sign language or use a electronic voice box if you or your family can afford it (they aren't cheap). You will end up with all the problems you have now, but only a million times worse.

What is close to the surface are jugular veins. Veins clot and collapse after a little over a pint of blood is lost. That won't work.

Back in the day there was an infamous video of the Russian-Chechnean War called chechclear or something like that.

Some Russian soldiers are caught by Chech fighters (might be the other way around can't honestly remember). Anyways, in the video a soldier is on the ground and his enemy proceeds to shove a combat knife in to his throat, over and over again.He's not trying to slice, like cut off his head, but proceeds to stab the guy in the throat. All I can say is it's pretty damn horrific - the attempts to scream and gurgling sounds I wouldn't even wish on an animal, much less another human being. And the dude does NOT lose consciousness right away. I'm sure plenty of people here have seen gore videos, but it's a horrendous way to try to die, IF you even do. Tbh, I don't see how anyone could have the willpower to continue because you literally have to work at it. Over the course of several minutes.

I know there's a popular misconception that Avicii died this way. But he didn't. He was blackout drunk and made surface cuts with a broken wine bottle all over his body. Alcohol thins the blood and promotes bleeding. He died from bloodloss over a long period of time from many surface cuts. He had a very high blood Alcohol level that it was said without it he most likely would not of died. It was more the combination of things than just the cutting, which, from what I heard he wasn't a cutter or in to sh, rather he was depressed, got shitfaced drunk, and in a stupor started thrashing at himself when a bottle accidentally broke. I had also heard he was on rohypnol but don't know how true that is as I don't believe it was ever officially reported. Was never a fan of the guy, just felt for him as a fellow human being who was clinically depressed.

I realize we are all different and on our own journey but please don't do this. There are much more reliable and peaceful methods. For a couple bucks and a trip to the grocery store, you could have something every bit as peaceful as Nembutal. If you have access to Amazon or Walmart or ebay, even better. Search the forum for N2O.

 

[Repllica]

you have a significant amount of neck muscles in the way. For hanging to occlude the carotid arteries the neck has to be compressed by about 20%. That's a lot of muscle and tissue to cut through and from what I heard from a friend who is a cutter, muscle is extremely tough to cut. Unless you have an iron will, you will most likely just end up with significant lifelong injuries

didn't wondered about the muscles and their thickness. it's a good point. but, it wouldn't be an "all-around" cut. if i managed to stab from front to back, avoiding hit the trachea, or just the right and left sides, could minimize the long term side effects. however, you're right, even to reach the scissor into the lower arm and hit nerve was pretty tough. not only pain, but muscles are hard as hell to cut. i probably wouldn't have physical strenght, and thus also mental, to do it. thx

 

[OzymandiAsh]

I've already cut my arms in self-harm with scissors. Hit the nerve, and pain wasn't gradeur as I tought would be. So, if i reach my carotid arteries, and cut it, would i loose counsciouness as if i hang myself??

pain wasn't what?

Yes, if you actually manage to cut the carotids you'd loose consciousness really fast. Even faster than hanging. However, SI is strong no matter your condition, unless you are in a manic episode and quite literally can't control yourself, so the chances of success are low.
Take care and maybe think of less "extreme" methods of achieving your goal.

Not really. If you cut the carotid arteries you are relying on exsanguination to cause death. You need to lose more than 3-4L of blood, which can be quick, but not as quick as losing consciousness from full suspension hanging (think a couple minutes vs. 20 seconds). Theoretically you could lose consciousness just by attempting to cut the carotids without even actually cutting them, but that wouldn't achieve much because you would simply regain consciousness. Death would take losing a lot of blood from the cuts.

At the risk of being accused of being "pro life", that isn't my intention. I just don't want you to end up a lot worse off.

I'm simply going to suggest you find something else. Your carotids are not close to the surface as many people think - you have a significant amount of neck muscles in the way. For hanging to occlude the carotid arteries the neck has to be compressed by about 20%. That's a lot of muscle and tissue to cut through and from what I heard from a friend who is a cutter, muscle is extremely tough to cut. Go try to cut a raw steak from a weird angle and imagine how tough that'd be. Unless you have an iron will, you will most likely just end up with significant lifelong injuries, possibly breathing and eating through a tube, and possibly having to learn sign language or use a electronic voice box if you or your family can afford it (they aren't cheap). You will end up with all the problems you have now, but only a million times worse.

What is close to the surface are jugular veins. Veins clot and collapse after a little over a pint of blood is lost. That won't work.

Back in the day there was an infamous video of the Russian-Chechnean War called chechclear or something like that.

Some Russian soldiers are caught by Chech fighters (might be the other way around can't honestly remember). Anyways, in the video a soldier is on the ground and his enemy proceeds to shove a combat knife in to his throat, over and over again.He's not trying to slice, like cut off his head, but proceeds to stab the guy in the throat. All I can say is it's pretty damn horrific - the attempts to scream and gurgling sounds I wouldn't even wish on an animal, much less another human being.

I realize we are all different and on our own journey but please don't do this. There are much more reliable and peaceful methods. For a couple bucks and a trip to the grocery store, you could have something every bit as peaceful as Nembutal. If you have access to Amazon or Walmart or ebay, even better. Search the forum for N2O.

Hey man! What's the grocery store alternative to Nembutal you are referring to?

 

[Untoten_]

I've already cut my arms in self-harm with scissors. Hit the nerve, and pain wasn't gradeur as I tought would be. So, if i reach my carotid arteries, and cut it, would i loose counsciouness as if i hang myself??

The neck is no bueno, it sucks. Unless the tip of your knife is really sharp.

If u want to bleed out I personally know someone who stabbed himself in the chest to death. But that's ouch, move.

 

[Jello Biafra]

pain wasn't what?



Not really. If you cut the carotid arteries you are relying on exsanguination to cause death. You need to lose more than 3-4L of blood, which can be quick, but not as quick as losing consciousness from full suspension hanging (think a couple minutes vs. 20 seconds). Theoretically you could lose consciousness just by attempting to cut the carotids without even actually cutting them, but that wouldn't achieve much because you would simply regain consciousness. Death would take losing a lot of blood from the cuts.



Hey man! What's the grocery store alternative to Nembutal you are referring to?

Brother, you already know. Nitrous Oxide. I know it's banned in the UK, and don't know where OP is from or if he has enough money to buy chargers/cylinders from Amazon/Walmart/Ebay (like $50 maybe), but 5 or 6 cans of whipped cream could easily fill a medium sized trash bag. N2O is used as a propellant and where the slang term "whippets" originated. People used to just not shake the can, let it sit upright, and inhale the Nitrous. Shaving cream also uses N2O as a propellant in the same manner but I'm guessing it would have a bad aftertaste.

didn't wondered about the muscles and their thickness. it's a good point. but, it wouldn't be an "all-around" cut. if i managed to stab from front to back, avoiding hit the trachea, or just the right and left sides, could minimize the long term side effects. however, you're right, even to reach the scissor into the lower arm and hit nerve was pretty tough. not only pain, but muscles are hard as hell to cut. i probably wouldn't have physical strenght, and thus also mental, to do it. thx

Hey man. Don't sweat it. We all are just clumsily feeling our way through what can often be a really cruel world. And if you have problems now, I can't even imagine how much worse it could be.

Better to get a grasp on your issues that you are already suffering through, rather than take a high chance that you introduce a whole new world of issues. Just imagine if you failed - you'd never be left alone again and no doubt your environment would be "padded" - I don't mean that literally, but no doubt you'd probably be not allowed around anything that even has the slightest chance of causing harm. Your life would be pure hell on top of the hell you are already dealing with. Think about it - if regular people knew you were willing to actually stab yourself in the throat, you'd probably be monitored 24/7 for a really long time. No matter how bad things are now, that would be infinitely worse.

It's good you came here to air out your ideas. None of us know everything and for as much as I type, I've been a severe fuckup my entire life. I am certainly no angel. I hurt the one person in the world who ever actually gave a shit about me. So much so that I awoke one morning to her hanging by an extension cord in my bedroom. The absolute sweetest human being I've ever been lucky enough to come across. I literally hit the lottery by marrying her. But I was a selfish, depressed, drug addicted fuck up. I routinely risked my life for almost 15 years by riding motorcycles at 3 digit speeds on one wheel for miles on end. So much so that I ended up in a wheelchair and lost 90% of the use of my hands. Not because I wrecked, just because of karma I guess. Anyways I beat myself up every day, having put my wife in the position of becoming my caretaker. We never argued and got along better than best friends. And I was too fuckin adrenaline and drug addicted that when she needed me the most, I wasn't there for her. There truly is no pain greater than feeling responsible for losing someone you deeply care about. I should have been there for her - instead I was getting drunk and high and riding wheelies down the freeway at all hours of the night. I did wreck a few times, got a few staples in my head, but nothing major. Little did I know that this was taking an enormous toll on my partner who I was supposed to grow old with. I didn't wear "gear" or anything like that - just a helmet and gloves. Stupid, I know. Fuck I know.

Anyways, we all have problems. I'm here for you brother/sister if you ever need to vent. I only look forward to joining my wife outside of this thing we call physical existence. Birth and death are doorways, not a beginning and ending.

 

[OzymandiAsh]

Brother, you already know. Nitrous Oxide. I know it's banned in the UK, and don't know where OP is from or if he has enough money to buy chargers/cylinders from Amazon/Walmart/Ebay (like $50 maybe), but 5 or 6 cans of whipped cream could easily fill a medium sized trash bag. N2O is used as a propellant and where the slang term "whippets" originated. People used to just not shake the can, let it sit upright, and inhale the Nitrous. Shaving cream also uses N2O as a propellant in the same manner but I'm guessing it would have a bad aftertaste.

Oh, cool, never knew that whipped cream cans had a significant amount of N2O or could be 'abused' lol.

 

[Alcoholic Teletubby]

This has been asked before. In short, no. I watched a video where a man was able to casually film himself while a slit in his throat bled out. It would likely take hours for you to succumb due to the amount of blood in your body.

 

[Jello Biafra]

This has been asked before. In short, no. I watched a video where a man was able to casually film himself while a slit in his throat bled out. It would likely take hours for you to succumb due to the amount of blood in your body.

Ya, I've seen this question get asked a lot lately.

I certainly understand the desperation, but holy hell this would be a horrific way to go - if you were even successful. You'd literally have to work at it for several minutes.

I'd hate to see someone struggling this much that they are considering this just end up with a whole new world of problems, and something like PTSD just from the attempt.

There was a girl here a few months ago that made a post not about stabbing herself in the throat, but she stabbed herself in the abdomen and I believe attempted at her heart as well. Had a hell of a lot more balls than I do, but the point is she didn't die and didn't even come close. She laid down to bleed out and as you said, we have a lot more blood than we think. Plus, the human body is pretty damn resilient.

 

[Webcore]

Hey man, as someone who made a post much like yours, seek another method.

The things I've heard have been horrific. You might think you're prepared for it to hurt and burn, but all that and then not being able to die will be worse. The injures, the brain damage, and hospital bills you could put yourself through is not worth the chance trying to aim for the right vein in your throat.

It's tough, but please find another method to go in peace.

 

[cbtvvxxvvv]

this isn't a method i would recommend doing. carotid arteries are a bitch to hit just right and like others have mentioned your SI will do everything in its power to prevent you from going all in to an actual fatal cut.

if you were able to make it fatal, it would be insanely traumatic, some of the most intense fear you haven't thought possible. and will still take about 30-1 min for all the blood to drain. some people go unconscious pretty quick but that's not how everyone will react.

i'd recommend looking into some other methods on here. <3

 

[SummerTrip]

Not really. If you cut the carotid arteries you are relying on exsanguination to cause death. You need to lose more than 3-4L of blood, which can be quick, but not as quick as losing consciousness from full suspension hanging (think a couple minutes vs. 20 seconds). Theoretically you could lose consciousness just by attempting to cut the carotids without even actually cutting them, but that wouldn't achieve much because you would simply regain consciousness. Death would take losing a lot of blood from the cuts.

Loosing consciousness has nothing to do with the total amount of blood lost. By cutting carotids your brain is left with no oxygen supply which results in unconsciousness.

 

[OzymandiAsh]

Loosing consciousness has nothing to do with the total amount of blood lost. By cutting carotids your brain is left with no oxygen supply which results in unconsciousness.

I did some research and surprisingly you are somewhat correct. Trauma to the carotids can cause a drop in cerebral perfusion pressure (blow flow to the brain) which can cause unconsciousness in a few seconds, and unless circulation is restored, that unconsciousness can progress and get deeper. The actual cause of death in these cases is usually still hypovolemic shock and exsanguination.

Also, it is not reliable - severe trauma to the carotids does not guarantee a quick loss of consciousness. It is entirely possible that consciousness persists for longer than a few seconds, especially if only one carotid is cut. So you can only say it is possible to lose consciousness in a few seconds, if the carotids are cut and arterial pressure drops quickly and severely enough.

 

[SummerTrip]

I did some research and surprisingly you are somewhat correct. Trauma to the carotids can cause a drop in cerebral perfusion pressure (blow flow to the brain) which can cause unconsciousness in a few seconds, and unless circulation is restored, that unconsciousness can progress and get deeper. The actual cause of death in these cases is usually still hypovolemic shock and exsanguination.

Also, it is not reliable - severe trauma to the carotids does not guarantee a quick loss of consciousness. It is entirely possible that consciousness persists for longer than a few seconds, especially if only one carotid is cut. So you can only say it is possible to lose consciousness in a few seconds, if the carotids are cut and arterial pressure drops quickly and severely enough.

That is exactly why I wrote that unless you are in a manic episode and can't control yourself, the chances are really low :) Even if you manage to cut one, SI will kick in strong.
However if you have the skills of John Kramer I believe you can build something that will do the job for you lol