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FoxSauce

FoxSauce

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I've thought it alot [blame it on my head I suppose] about peoples mental illnesses being people not capable to do certain things ( If its seem Im trying to downplay or anything, I think doing the bear minumum should feel like a victory)

My point is is peoples with I dunno high fuctioning mental illnesses are less prone to fuction? I known it means you can still suffer but work just as well in society or maybe can deal with their mental issues better than someone else ? Or is it the same as mild?

If this question offense people who reads this im deeply sorry . If you need more clarification let me know
 
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ad astra

I go on my own time, not society's.
Jul 27, 2024
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I've thought about this too but in the context of being autistic (no, not "tiktok diagnosed me" self-dx autism, but actual, clinically tested and diagnosed autism, with a support level to boot!) I'm kinda more towards the middle when it comes to appearing "functioning" these days anymore. I've been unmasking (masking is too fuckin' exhausting) so now it's more obvious to regular people that I'm autistic, but I still have to deal with people's expectations and life responsibilities and shit. Sometimes I just wish I were born/diagnosed as a level 3 instead of a level 2 tbh so I could get more support with less scrutiny because then it'd be mega obvious...

Sorry if I read your post wrong, I'm just responding according to how I interpreted your post 😅
 
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I've thought about this too but in the context of being autistic (no, not "tiktok diagnosed me" self-dx autism, but actual, clinically tested and diagnosed autism, with a support level to boot!) I'm kinda more towards the middle when it comes to appearing "functioning" these days anymore. I've been unmasking (masking is too fuckin' exhausting) so now it's more obvious to regular people that I'm autistic, but I still have to deal with people's expectations and life responsibilities and shit. Sometimes I just wish I were born/diagnosed as a level 3 instead of a level 2 tbh so I could get more support with less scrutiny because then it'd be mega obvious...

Sorry if I read your post wrong, I'm just responding according to how I interpreted your post 😅
No its ok I was more worried people would find it offensive
 
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ad astra

I go on my own time, not society's.
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No its ok I was more worried people would find it offensive
I'm just glad to see another person with similar feelings with the courage to actually talk about it even if most people might find it offensive. It's hard to discuss and you're pretty much the first person I've talked about this with, so, thanks for being the first person to start the conversation, I suppose
 
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Almost Dead

Somewhere in between
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Well in general, being "high functioning" doesn't necessarily mean you "work just as well in society" or can deal with your mental illnesses better than others who are "lower functioning", it just means you've learned the ability to hide it better and blend in better. It's extremely mentally exhausting because you're dealing with the rest internally but then also putting in that effort to come across "normal" to fit in and appease neurotypical people; it takes a huge toll and is often why you hear about so many "high functioning" autistic people in particular having meltdowns and burnouts after long periods of constant masking, etc. Though it does depend person to person though for sure!

(Also I'm putting those terms in quotes just because I don't think they're like... very valid or helpful, in the way that it just seems like another way to judge someone's value by how well they can adhere to typical societal standards, which sucks and it sucks more that they've been super normalized nowadays.)

Oh and btw you didn't come off as offensive at all (imo as someone diagnosed with ASD + various Crazy Person mental disorders anyways), so no worries about that! It's a fair question.
 
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I guess I'd be considered high functioning. I have a job a family and most people would never think I was suicidal. However I've fought with suicidality for decades. I've literally come within a few foot pounds of pressure multiple times. Due to past trauma (hate that word) I compartmentalize very very well. Sometimes I wonder if I'm a sociopath.
 
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FoxSauce

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I'm just glad to see another person with similar feelings with the courage to actually talk about it even if most people might find it offensive. It's hard to discuss and you're pretty much the first person I've talked about this with, so, thanks for being the first person to start the conversation, I suppose
Ofc! Im glad i could help unintentionally. Ive just thought it was a selfish thing to think about cuz well people have worse than I have. Im not saying that is a bad or good thing either moslty curious yknow. It sometikes makes me think im more whinning than anything yknow?

Well in general, being "high functioning" doesn't necessarily mean you "work just as well in society" or can deal with your mental illnesses better than others who are "lower functioning", it just means you've learned the ability to hide it better and blend in better. It's extremely mentally exhausting because you're dealing with the rest internally but then also putting in that effort to come across "normal" to fit in and appease neurotypical people; it takes a huge toll and is often why you hear about so many "high functioning" autistic people in particular having meltdowns and burnouts after long periods of constant masking, etc. Though it does depend person to person though for sure!

(Also I'm putting those terms in quotes just because I don't think they're like... very valid or helpful, in the way that it just seems like another way to judge someone's value by how well they can adhere to typical societal standards, which sucks and it sucks more that they've been super normalized nowadays.)

Oh and btw you didn't come off as offensive at all (imo as someone diagnosed with ASD + various Crazy Person mental disorders anyways), so no worries about that! It's a fair question.
My apologies for the quotes, I didnt know how else to express it. I'll be more more mindful next time. Thank you for letting me know!
 
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missedmybus

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Feb 2, 2025
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I think it depends if you are getting the support you need for whatever thing you are suffering from.

I think high functioning people can slip through the mazes and have to constantly step up, because they come across as "normal" whereas somebody who has more trouble with this would have faster access to the support they require.
 
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Almost Dead

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My apologies for the quotesi didnt know how else to express it.ill be more mondful next time. Thank you for letting me know!
No you're totally alright, no need to apologize! That's just a personal opinion of mine; a lot of people use those terms because they do feel they are fitting, so it just depends on who you talk to. You expressed it fine. 👍
 
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bankai

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I've thought it alot [blame it on my head I suppose] about peoples mental illnesses being people not capable to do certain things ( If its seem Im trying to downplay or anything, I think doing the bear minumum should feel like a victory)

My point is is peoples with I dunno high fuctioning mental illnesses are less prone to fuction? I known it means you can still suffer but work just as well in society or maybe can deal with their mental issues better than someone else ? Or is it the same as mild?

If this question offense people who reads this im deeply sorry . If you need more clarification let me know
Are you talking about people like savants who are extremely good at certain tasks like calculations and math and are not good in other tasks like like socializing? Or some people who can speak several languages but cannot tie their shoelaces?

Yeah, those are high functioning type of people but they struggle in other areas.It has to do with certain parts of the brain which are good with certain tasks being more developed than other parts of the brain which are associated with some other tasks.
 
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Are you talking about people like savants who are extremely good at certain tasks like calculations and math and are not good in other tasks like like socializing? Or some people who can speak several languages but cannot tie their shoelaces?

Yeah, those are high functioning type of people but they struggle in other areas.It has to do with certain parts of the brain which are good with certain tasks being more developed than other parts of the brain which are associated with some other tasks.
No no i mean people with mental illness. Sorry for the confusion.
 
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Unbearable Mr. Bear

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High functioning has all the bad things of the mental illness without the understanding of other people that only look at them superficially.

All my adulthood I've got people saying "You don't even act autistic! I wouldn't even have guessed.", missing the point that I still suffer the problems and pains, I just don't show them. And I feel obligated to not show them because "I don't look autistic" and thus people will not be understanding of me, because if I showed them they would call me childish,

In short, I think it sucks more than having low-functioning whatever. I'm like a kid that was forced to grow up and bitter because otherwise I wouldn't fit in anything. And I still don't fit in anything anyway...
 
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Forever Sleep

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I'm not even sure that I do have mental illness. I'd possibly be re-diagnosed with mild-moderate depression if I went through the procedure again. Very little has changed with me. There are certainly issues I feel I do have, that haven't been diagnosed- social anxiety, a propensity for limerence and borderline eating disorders.

I suppose I'm high functioning. I hold down a job, live alone, care for myself more or less. I also live in a really awful environment because I'll just let the mess build and build. I reckon a 'professional' visiting my living environment would say I was struggling mentally. No 'normal' person would live like this with so little respect for themself I imagine. In terms of myself, asides from an obvious lack of confidence, I'm not sure people would twig much else though.

I suppose I see things from the other side really. I've always been expected to work and support myself. People know I struggle but there really hasn't been that much dispensation. I've just been expected to overcome. Sometimes I wonder if that's because I truly do have some ability that enables me to. Other times, I wonder if it's more because I simply didn't have care givers that let me give excuses. My Dad doesn't have much time for 'mental illness' or therapy or meds. I was almost 30 when I first told someone 'professional' that I was struggling. Even though I've been struggling since I was 10. That said, maybe all that did me a favour. Some of the poor members here who were forced into therapy from childhood, don't seem better off for it.

I also struggle with the definitions. Is it truly that people can't do something? Or, is it that when they do it, they suffer terrible consequences? So- take social anxiety. I hated anything involving groups at work. Literally anything- meetings, courses, eating lunch even- I especially struggle eating around others. A party would be hell.

Now- I can physically do those things- obviously but, they will be a total torment and I'll suffer with memories of the event for years to come. It's so hard to grade though- at what point does a thing become so debilitatingly bad, that we agree that a person shouldn't be expected to do it? I've known relatively 'normal' people cry before work, at work and, when they got home. That's a pretty clear indicator that their present activity isn't good for their mental health. When is it classed as 'abnormal'? Surely- it's when the person themselves says- 'I can't cope.' Do we all have that choice? I don't know. Is it a choice though? I'm sure it is possible to just entirely break down. Again though- I think it's hard to judge. Is something uncomfortable or, utterly impossible?

As to which is 'better'- I imagine that depends on the person's quality of life and, the severity of their illness. Are they provided for comfortably? Does their illness give them any rest bite? As for someone 'high functioning' again- How badly are they struggling to keep going? Do they have any support? Does their more 'normie' life actually fulfil them or, do they just feel like a slave? I expect it's different for everyone.

To speak truthfully, I can find myself feeling envious of NEETS. Envious of people who's families paid attention and got them assistance. There again, I know it's terrible to envy someone truly suffering. I suspect they would envy me in fact. There's no way I'd want to be NEET if the condition was a whole lot of illness. I just think it's so hard to judge. None of us know what it's like to live in another person's shoes. Who's to say how badly or well we'd cope with another person's life.

I think the diagnosis process doesn't help either. I imagine most people would come out with a diagnosis of something or other if they saw their GP and described what they struggled with. I do often find myself wondering what makes some people high functioning and, some not. Is it truly that their illnesses are less severe?

The most ironic thing I find is, some people- like my Dad will largely dismiss mental illness. Especially as an excuse to get out of something. However, if I skate around topics like suicide or, life being awful- he'll then say I could be depressed. I just find it wryly funny that it's an 'excuse' that won't be accepted for some of us during life. But, if we die by suicide, you can predict people will be all over it being down to mental illness.
 
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Unbearable Mr. Bear

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It's like you don't have a problem. If you look normal, you should act normal, and you know what is not normal in yourself and you try to stop that every single day of you goddamn life, and everyone else is like "You're exaggerating, everyone else has to go through the same", and yeah but they DON'T HAVE A LITERAL MENTAL ILLNESS THAT IS INCURABLE AND MAKES EVERYTHING WORSE!!!!!

Everything is torture, everything is a fucking pain, everything hurts, and you can't do nothing because you literally think you're wrong about being hurt because everyone says you're normal and you just...you just want to die. Because you can't take it anymore.
 
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vitbar

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Jun 4, 2023
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I agree with others here who say it depends. My depression has mostly been high functioning. It can be a kind of trap as I get little support, despite the extra difficulties. If I had the time to focus on bettering my life instead of constantly working to provide the essentials my quality of life would be much better.

It's hard to know if I'd have a better life if ill enough to not have to work so much, and have more free time to work on my life. It might leave me where I am or worse off instead.

One thing is for sure: being able to mask my issues delayed my accessing therapy and medication. Both these things have greatly improved my life. I wonder how things would have been if I had started earlier. Even a few years would have saved me from some dark times.
 
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Sep 27, 2023
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I've thought it alot [blame it on my head I suppose] about peoples mental illnesses being people not capable to do certain things ( If its seem Im trying to downplay or anything, I think doing the bear minumum should feel like a victory)

My point is is peoples with I dunno high fuctioning mental illnesses are less prone to fuction? I known it means you can still suffer but work just as well in society or maybe can deal with their mental issues better than someone else ? Or is it the same as mild?

If this question offense people who reads this im deeply sorry . If you need more clarification let me know
I agree, I think the bare minimum should feel like a victory. But to people who are not suffering with any sort of similar concern, it's just the bare minimum. It's kind of looked down on(?), and they don't really understand how much work, dedication, and struggle it took to do that one damn thing. I think maybe high functioning people are kind of expected to perform like regular people, just because they look kinda "normal". I think it can be detrimental to them. But high and low functioning people are absolutely capable of good things, I don't wanna invalidate or talk down to anyone in that situation. I think it's partially expectations and not understanding someone who is high functioning having different experiences.

I have no idea if that makes any sense 😭 Please ask if it's confusing
 
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thereisnoneed

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Jan 23, 2020
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I've thought it alot [blame it on my head I suppose] about peoples mental illnesses being people not capable to do certain things ( If its seem Im trying to downplay or anything, I think doing the bear minumum should feel like a victory)

My point is is peoples with I dunno high fuctioning mental illnesses are less prone to fuction? I known it means you can still suffer but work just as well in society or maybe can deal with their mental issues better than someone else ? Or is it the same as mild?

If this question offense people who reads this im deeply sorry . If you need more clarification let me know
there's a certain hell that comes from being self-aware.
 
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25dRvS9Ka

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Jun 11, 2025
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I've thought it alot [blame it on my head I suppose] about peoples mental illnesses being people not capable to do certain things ( If its seem Im trying to downplay or anything, I think doing the bear minumum should feel like a victory)

My point is is peoples with I dunno high fuctioning mental illnesses are less prone to fuction? I known it means you can still suffer but work just as well in society or maybe can deal with their mental issues better than someone else ? Or is it the same as mild?

If this question offense people who reads this im deeply sorry . If you need more clarification let me know
I believe that mental functioning cannot be measured in general without a broad individual analysis proposed by neurological exams.

The term "highly functional" brings a lot of subjectivity, I think that individual abilities lead to unique conditions in each individual, the development of cognition, memory, emotional intelligence depends on factors such as care, education, stability in the production of neural chemicals and social interaction.

As long as these conditions are distinct between people, this topic of intelligence, self-sufficiency, functionality will be debated with little truthful and verifiable information. If Stephen Hawking had been born in Kibera, would he have developed intellect? Would he be "highly functional"? Would the lack of self-sufficiency prevent him from developing? That is my point.

...they don't really understand how much work, dedication, and struggle it took to do that one damn thing.
They understand, but they choose to express contempt in exchange for a brief sense of superiority.

People are pretentious and will use small opportunities to inflate their own egos.

Recognizing work in small things and being careful with others is a behavior that only those who have reached the pinnacle of inner peace and wisdom can do.
 
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bankai

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Mar 16, 2025
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I guess I'm high functioning in the sense I have a good job, I go to the gym, I take care of my health. All of those things. The reason I do them although I don't feel any joy in life🤣 is maybe things can change at some point in the future.

I'm not optimistic though.But it's OK. I'll still try my best. Lot of people have turned their life around.
Maybe my life gets better at some point in time. And if it doesn't, well. I accept that too.
 
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May 31, 2025
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I've thought it alot [blame it on my head I suppose] about peoples mental illnesses being people not capable to do certain things ( If its seem Im trying to downplay or anything, I think doing the bear minumum should feel like a victory)

My point is is peoples with I dunno high fuctioning mental illnesses are less prone to fuction? I known it means you can still suffer but work just as well in society or maybe can deal with their mental issues better than someone else ? Or is it the same as mild?

If this question offense people who reads this im deeply sorry . If you need more clarification let me know
If I catch your drift you are wondering if high functioning people with mental illnesses have milder mental illnesses. I would guess everyone's mental illnesses in unique. High functioning can give people some options, so that's good. But there can still be a lot of suffering
 
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