In your last moments....

[motel rooms]

Myths are assumed to be false and religion to be true instead.

I don't see how Christian mythology/religion is more true than/superior to, say, Greek, Egyptian or Hindu mythology/religion

 

[S like Siren]

I don't see how Christian mythology/religion is more true than/superior to, say, Greek, Egyptian or Hindu mythology/religion

It is not superior but there is a difference between myth and religion, so I know at least from what I remember.But I understand what you say ... it could all be nonsense ... stories to explain the unknown and what scares us or that we do not yet know.

 

[motel rooms]

It is not superior but there is a difference between myth and religion, so I know at least from what I remember.But I understand what you say ... it could all be nonsense ... stories to explain the unknown and what scares us or that we do not yet know.

You can't separate a religion from its mythology. Muslims & Christians have no problem recognizing that there's no Hinduism without its colorful mythology, but they refuse to accept that the stories in their "holy books" are just stories as well & that loads of them were "borrowed" from other, earlier traditions

 

[Konjac]

I don't strictly follow any religion, but I consider myself to be open minded as far as all that goes. Whatever's waiting for me is waiting for me, I just hope it's a better place than here. That being said, I think I'll ask for forgiveness from any gods that might be up there just in case...

 

[S like Siren]

You can't separate a religion from its mythology. Muslims & Christians have no problem recognizing that there's no Hinduism without its colorful mythology, but they refuse to accept that the stories in their "holy books" are just stories as well & that loads of them were "borrowed" from other, earlier traditions

Yes, you are right. But "It is supposed" that religion or rather faith is something true, real. For people who truly believe religion is truth, it is real, tangible even if not entirely visible or not visible at all, at least not here, but it will be after physical death. Then of course religion uses myths, that are, stories full of sacredness, not really happened, to teach or tell a truth.
Obviously for those who do not believe it is all nonsense :)

 

[NeverReallyHere]

Who decides that the house is shitty?

Whoever has to live in it, I guess.

 

[JustAnumber]

I would ask nature to take my body into the ground so that I'm never seen again. That way i may finally be able to rest in peace

 

[S like Siren]

Whoever has to live in it, I guess.

Yes, but based on what parameters? Because so say the majority? Just because our mind does not work like everyone else's does not mean that we are the ones who are wrong and therefore made of shit even if obviously in the end it is true .. .if we do not fall within the parameters of normality ... we are a problem and therefore destined to suffer.

I would ask nature to take my body into the ground so that I'm never seen again. That way i may finally be able to rest in peace

I understand ... my dream is to never have existed but unfortunately it is not possible:(

 

[motel rooms]

I think I'll ask for forgiveness from any gods that might be up there just in case...

I think I'll use my dying breath to tell them all to eat shit just in case...

 

[Largeletters]

I had asked for God's forgiveness when I attempted suicide a few times before, so I probably will when I make my final attempt to CTB.

 

[S like Siren]

I had asked for God's forgiveness when I attempted suicide a few times before, so I probably will when I make my final attempt to CTB.

That's what I've done in past attempts too...

 

[motel rooms]

I had asked for God's forgiveness when I attempted suicide a few times before, so I probably will when I make my final attempt to CTB.

Why? Because he's been so good to you?

 

[ExistentialEntropy]

Personally I'm a nondualist, so I don't believe in a final moment or a universe that exists separate from myself, so no I won't be asking God for forgiveness as that would be like asking myself for forgiveness.

 

[Hurt]

I don't believe in God. But I respect your belief. In my last moment I only want to feel happy because I'm leaving this world and I will have peace (or that's what I hope to find once I die)

 

[Largeletters]

Why? Because he's been so good to you?

Good point.

 

[S like Siren]

Personally I'm a nondualist, so I don't believe in a final moment or a universe that exists separate from myself, so no I won't be asking God for forgiveness as that would be like asking myself for forgiveness.

Very interesting...Everything is one Even in the Christian religion it is like this,at the end of time it will be like this ... all in one

I don't believe in God. But I respect your belief. In my last moment I only want to feel happy because I'm leaving this world and I will have peace (or that's what I hope to find once I die)

That's what we all hope for......the peace.

 

[All Things Must Pass]

But you know it is also full of stories of saints ... and what if it were all true?

Like I said, at least one of those fictional stories isn't true, so it's safe to assume the rest aren't true as well.

I think this has left an indelible mark inside me.

I don't think so. What can be learned can be unlearned. There are resources on recovering from religious indoctrination.

 

[NeverReallyHere]

Yes, but based on what parameters? Because so say the majority? Just because our mind does not work like everyone else's does not mean that we are the ones who are wrong and therefore made of shit even if obviously in the end it is true .. .if we do not fall within the parameters of normality ... we are a problem and therefore destined to suffer.

Well yeah, obviously the majority don't feel the same way I do. But then all I'm asking is for the right to feel that way; I'm not demanding that everybody else conform to my values. Can they say the same?

 

[S like Siren]

Well yeah, obviously the majority don't feel the same way I do. But then all I'm asking is for the right to feel that way; I'm not demanding that everybody else conform to my values. Can they say the same?

No, you're right ... I understand you

 

[UseItOrLoseIt]

In your last moments before dying, would you ask God's forgiveness?

Lol, I probably will cause it's hardcoded by my upbringing. As a phrase. But I know that what I'm actually wishing for is to be worthy of someones memory. "Forgive me" means the same things as "don't banish me from your memory". This is the only heaven we get. Being remembered as something good.

 

[S like Siren]

. "Forgive me" means the same things as "don't banish me from your memory".

Very beautiful. But for me personally i think that I am something bad .... that my life has been something bad. I think I am a mistake. If I had a choice I would like my entire existence to be erased, for no one to remember me as I never existed.

 

[motel rooms]

i think that I am something bad .... that my life has been something bad. I think I am a mistake. If I had a choice I would like my entire existence to be erased, for no one to remember me as I never existed.

If God exists & you're a mistake, then surely He's the one who's responsible for making/creating mistakes. Don't worry, your entire existence will be erased & no one will remember you. Nobody will be remembered.

 

[UseItOrLoseIt]

But for me personally i think that I am something bad .... that my life has been something bad. I think I am a mistake.

I despise myself. Moving on!

If I had a choice I would like my entire existence to be erased, for no one to remember me as I never existed.

Of course, me too. Nothing is all I want for me. But not for the dead me.

It's totally my mothers fault.

 

[motel rooms]

I was raised Catholic too, but I've never been tempted to believe that stuff. When I was a kid I thought it was funny. These days I find it patronizing & infuriating. I'd like to spray-paint the cathedral in my city with graffiti of gay couples kissing before I ctb

And when I say "kissing" I actually mean "fu**ing"

 

[S like Siren]

If God exists & you're a mistake, then surely He's the one who's responsible for making/creating mistakes. Don't worry, your entire existence will be erased & no one will remember you. Nobody will be remembered.

I don't think this is possible. My opinion is that once we are born we can no longer hide. Yes of course ... you say: "We are just a number among many, who do you want to remember us?"But our life, the experiences we have lived, no one can erase them.All the people with whom I have spoken, with whom I have had experiences etc ... none of this can be erased. even if the others won't remember it anymore this doesn't mean that all this things didn't happen. I would have liked that my whole life had never existed, not only that others forget about me. But unfortunately this is not possible.You know in the Catholic religion ... God's plan is not something we can understand while we're here.I may consider myself a mistake and hate my life for my reasons, but God created me and wanted me to be here for a reason that I cannot understand.Taking one's life and hating oneself is a sin because God loves us and sent his son to die for our salvation and to show us all his love.God says that each of us has his own cross here and that we must ask him for help to get relief, and that's what I did ... I asked him for help but nothing has changed unlike many others who usually find a solution after asking God for help.Sorry for the long parenthesis lol ... but if God really exists this means that in my case I have chosen to commit a very serious sin (suicide) and knowing my pain and suffering I hope he will forgive me.God is perfect, his plan is perfect, he makes no mistakes.Error, suffering etc ... come from sin and evil not from God.

 

[motel rooms]

I asked him for help but nothing has changed unlike many others who usually find a solution after asking God for help.

How could you possibly know that many others usually find a solution after asking God for help? I assume a priest told you that. Aren't you aware of the fact that millions upon millions of extremely devout Christians in the Third World suffer like animals every single day?

 

[S like Siren]

. Nothing is all I want for me. But not for the dead me.

What do you mean? Would you like to be remembered as a good thing or would you like your existence to be erased?
I'm sorry that you despise yourself too...

How could you possibly know that many others usually find a solution after asking God for help? I assume a priest told you that.

No priest involved lol But many people like me with their personal suffering when I went to lourdes they told me their stories ... of how they suffered and after they approached the faith and asked God for help their life changed ... who got a big change ( who could not have children, and had them immediately afterwards. who had a serious tumor and is cured etc ...)Who got a smallest one...but many have come out of their suffering after asking God for help ... and not only in Lourdes, but I also knew the story of two old friends of mine who thanks to God and faith had found help.So I mean this pissed me off a lot ... because it didn't happen to me as well.

Aren't you aware of the fact that millions upon millions of extremely devout Christians in the Third World suffer like animals every single day?

of course I am aware of it ... what is strangest in fact is how it is possible that they are devout Christians despite all this

 

[Dear Agony]

I know what you mean by this. I consider myself an atheist, but in my moments of complete despair and desperation, I try and talk to God. In 20 years of my life, God hasn't answered, sent me a sign, or even a little hope. Just pain. So, why would it be different in my last moments? He hasn't listened or answered in 20 years. Why would he at the moment of my death? Thousands of people die everyday in unfair, painful situations. They are forgotten. I'm just another one.
If God existed, I wouldn't need to do it in the first place. I wouldn't be this hopeless. There's also the point I would hate to find out there's another life beyond this one, and that all this was a test. It would enrage me, because it's not fair. I want to die and for all of it to be gone.
I don't want God to exist. Because if God existed, it would make me angry. If God existed, there wouldn't be so much suffering. If God existed, he would listen.
If God existed, I would still have a reason to live...

 

[S like Siren]

I know what you mean by this. I consider myself an atheist, but in my moments of complete despair and desperation, I try and talk to God. In 20 years of my life, God hasn't answered, sent me a sign, or even a little hope. Just pain. So, why would it be different in my last moments? He hasn't listened or answered in 20 years. Why would he at the moment of my death? Thousands of people die everyday in unfair, painful situations. They are forgotten. I'm just another one.
If God existed, I wouldn't need to do it in the first place. I wouldn't be this hopeless. There's also the point I would hate to find out there's another life beyond this one, and that all this was a test. It would enrage me, because it's not fair. I want to die and for all of it to be gone.
I don't want God to exist. Because if God existed, it would make me angry. If God existed, there wouldn't be so much suffering. If God existed, he would listen.
If God existed, I would still have a reason to live...

You're right ... feeling abandoned, hopeless and in despair hurts so much. I understand this anger ... this feeling, it's the same one I felt when I realized that no one would help me ... that I was alone in my pain.

 

[boc]

I've always had issues with depression. Turning to religion has always been helpful for me. That's not a prescription, but just what I have found helpful. I plan to pray for love and forgiveness in the moments between N and death. Honestly, to whoever is debating this, do what ever will bring you the most peace in the final moments. It's up to the individual, and there is no judgement for whatever it is that may be.