Discussion In the US - will the police turn the entire house into a crime scene if I CTB there?

[Polyxo]

So... In summary, my parents are extremely overprotective and when I casually mentioned going to stay overnight in a hotel for a "staycation," they freaked out. We had a very important family discussion about me exploring independence as a 24 year old and while they gave me their blessing to stay overnight in a hotel at one point (with my dad dropping me off to check in) and leave me alone overnight at the house for a different, upcoming trip for themselves (which they probably planned because they ended up feeling bad for me), I can't use those opportunities to CTB because they directly correlate with their decision to be "lenient" with me with regards to their overprotectiveness. The guilt and betrayal they will feel due to the timing isn't how I want things to go.

Please, let's not discuss my overprotective parents and my decision to not just do what I want anyway. My dynamic with them is deeply rooted in generational/immigrant parent trauma (ifykyk) and things are just the way they are. I don't intend on making efforts on changing this because what's the point if I wanna die anyway. I will ignore replies commenting/asking about this.

After that discussion, it was quite eye-opening to me how uncomfortable they are with me being some place other than home. And my heart was moved upon the realization that, if the worst were to ever happen to me, they probably would probably actually prefer it to occur in their home and not out there where I could have gotten "kidnapped/raped/trafficked" as my mom gently put it. My mom has shown interest in moving to another house, anyway, so my death in my room will probably kickstart a new chapter for them. They'd probably take it as a sign from God.

If anyone knows the practical details of the CTB aftermath in a house with other inhabitants, please kindly let me know. I know that any unnatural death will trigger a police investigation, and another kind user created a list of tasks to complete to minimize hardship for loved ones left behind. The goal here is to make the painful police investigation as short as possible.

But I have other questions such as - will the entire family have to relocate due to establishing a crime scene or will the police likely just seal off my room only? How long will an autopsy take? How long will it take for the family to obtain a death certificate? Are the police responsible for biohazard cleanup, and if not, would it be a good idea to leave a list of resources for my family (my method is SN, it should be easy enough to lay out some tarp, towels, and wear a diaper before committing, but just wanna make sure)? What is the cheapest body disposal method (different types of cremations/burials/etc)?

Thank you guys so much.

 

[Britney Spears]

My parents are also very controlling. I'm 24, and they're planning to move to another house. It's the same situation. I'll have to do it with them there, giving me a chance and avoiding discovery. I have to plan it well. The consequences could be premature or fatal discovery. That's why we must be safe and plan ahead, giving ourselves the time necessary for the sn act. The trauma will be enormous for them. Paramedics, police, coroners, and others will come to the scene. The autopsy? It's also my biggest fear. I talked about it a while ago. If we're going to do it at our parents' house, we have to be as safe as possible, and even better when they're not there, but I imagine it's impossible. We have to pretend we're fine and that you're recovering. Plan everything in advance, and when we have the opportunity, then yes. But I'm still scared. Hugs. By the way, the funeral expenses will be heartbreaking, but it is what it is

 

[Polyxo]

My parents are also very controlling. I'm 24, and they're planning to move to another house. It's the same situation. I'll have to do it with them there, giving me a chance and avoiding discovery. I have to plan it well. The consequences could be premature or fatal discovery. That's why we must be safe and plan ahead, giving ourselves the time necessary for the sn act. The trauma will be enormous for them. Paramedics, police, coroners, and others will come to the scene. The autopsy? It's also my biggest fear. I talked about it a while ago. If we're going to do it at our parents' house, we have to be as safe as possible, and even better when they're not there, but I imagine it's impossible. We have to pretend we're fine and that you're recovering. Plan everything in advance, and when we have the opportunity, then yes. But I'm still scared. Hugs. By the way, the funeral expenses will be heartbreaking, but it is what it is

I'm sorry you're in this position and especially that you relate to me. We have preferences for how we wanted things to go... But reality is that we can't control certain circumstances.

We can hope that the ending is the same. That we exit peacefully. The only decision that we can truly say was ours.

 

[YandereMikuMistress]

So... In summary, my parents are extremely overprotective and when I casually mentioned going to stay overnight in a hotel for a "staycation," they freaked out. We had a very important family discussion about me exploring independence as a 24 year old and while they gave me their blessing to stay overnight in a hotel at one point (with my dad dropping me off to check in) and leave me alone overnight at the house for a different, upcoming trip for themselves (which they probably planned because they ended up feeling bad for me), I can't use those opportunities to CTB because they directly correlate with their decision to be "lenient" with me with regards to their overprotectiveness. The guilt and betrayal they will feel due to the timing isn't how I want things to go.

Please, let's not discuss my overprotective parents and my decision to not just do what I want anyway. My dynamic with them is deeply rooted in generational/immigrant parent trauma (ifykyk) and things are just the way they are. I don't intend on making efforts on changing this because what's the point if I wanna die anyway. I will ignore replies commenting/asking about this.

After that discussion, it was quite eye-opening to me how uncomfortable they are with me being some place other than home. And my heart was moved upon the realization that, if the worst were to ever happen to me, they probably would probably actually prefer it to occur in their home and not out there where I could have gotten "kidnapped/raped/trafficked" as my mom gently put it. My mom has shown interest in moving to another house, anyway, so my death in my room will probably kickstart a new chapter for them. They'd probably take it as a sign from God.

If anyone knows the practical details of the CTB aftermath in a house with other inhabitants, please kindly let me know. I know that any unnatural death will trigger a police investigation, and another kind user created a list of tasks to complete to minimize hardship for loved ones left behind. The goal here is to make the painful police investigation as short as possible.

But I have other questions such as - will the entire family have to relocate due to establishing a crime scene or will the police likely just seal off my room only? How long will an autopsy take? How long will it take for the family to obtain a death certificate? Are the police responsible for biohazard cleanup, and if not, would it be a good idea to leave a list of resources for my family (my method is SN, it should be easy enough to lay out some tarp, towels, and wear a diaper before committing, but just wanna make sure)? What is the cheapest body disposal method (different types of cremations/burials/etc)?

Thank you guys so much.

I think about these things allot to thankfully I managed to move out only on the condition that I wasn't alone and was with someone they were comfortable with, your family dynamics from this one post Im going off reminds me deeply how my own parents use to act, now they are indifferent, like there problem is gone or when it's out of sight it's out of mind, so weird how much power they'd hold over me all my life and only choosing to kinda cast me off as soon as I turn of legal age so weird, no longer calling the police on me for stepping down the street In a suburb neighborhood, mabye they finally "gave up" I mean I remember my dad getting so pissed with me telling me I don't know pain and to fake moms sleeping pills if I want to die and he held them out and gave them to me, was it the lack of control upsetting, who knows, I tried and mabye since I did exactly that what he asked i solidified there power over me once again who knows, but I still struggle as I love and resent my family members I can't accurately give a list of wrongs and abuse because it wouldn't suffice and I still love them I'm some weird guilty way, but I do.

I hear many people dedicate when they die or many cases indicate people pissing themselves and no the police aren't the ones who clean up or are apart of the biohazard team that's actually the line of work I'm trying to get into before I ctb if possible, but it'll be a separate group of people that don't only work directly with police but apparently the biohazard teams don't deal with the bodies almost 90% of the time id, it's not typically for biohazard teams to deal with the body itself, but medical examiner's or a coroner are the ones who deal with relocating the body and

 

[Forveleth]

It depends on how you die. If it looks like a very obvious suicide, the police probably will not even get involved. If your death circumstances appear questionable however, there may be an investigation. Just depends on the scene you leave behind.

 

[gothbird]

If you ctb at home in the US, yes it will automatically trigger a police response and investigation since it's considered an unattended death. But they don't turn the whole house into a crime scene, especially if there are no signs of foul play. Typically they'll secure the room where you're found, take photos, collect any obvious evidence (like the SN container, note, medications), and do interviews with family. But unless something looks suspicious or confusing, they won't seal off the entire house or force your family to relocate.

Regarding the autopsy, from what I've read in most states it's required for any unnatural death unless you're under hospice care. With SN it's not always easy to spot without toxicology, so unless you leave a note and packaging clearly labeled, they may investigate more deeply. Autopsy reports can take weeks for toxicology results to come back, but the death certificate itself usually comes faster like iirc within a week or two, often with the cause listed as pending until the full report is done.

Police aren't responsible for cleanup. That's on the next of kin unfortunately. SN is not typically messy like a gunshot or hanging, but there still may be bodily fluids (vomit, urine, poop, etc.). You're smart to plan ahead leaving tarp, towels, a disposable pad or diaper, and cleanup instructions or a biohazard cleaning service list would actually help a lot.

As for body disposition direct cremation is the cheapest and most common. Donating your body to science is free in some cases, but usually not accepted if it's a suicide especially not with chemical ingestion (that's based on what I know in NZ but a quick search suggests its probably the same over there).

 

[alwaysalone]

So... In summary, my parents are extremely overprotective and when I casually mentioned going to stay overnight in a hotel for a "staycation," they freaked out. We had a very important family discussion about me exploring independence as a 24 year old and while they gave me their blessing to stay overnight in a hotel at one point (with my dad dropping me off to check in) and leave me alone overnight at the house for a different, upcoming trip for themselves (which they probably planned because they ended up feeling bad for me), I can't use those opportunities to CTB because they directly correlate with their decision to be "lenient" with me with regards to their overprotectiveness. The guilt and betrayal they will feel due to the timing isn't how I want things to go.

Please, let's not discuss my overprotective parents and my decision to not just do what I want anyway. My dynamic with them is deeply rooted in generational/immigrant parent trauma (ifykyk) and things are just the way they are. I don't intend on making efforts on changing this because what's the point if I wanna die anyway. I will ignore replies commenting/asking about this.

After that discussion, it was quite eye-opening to me how uncomfortable they are with me being some place other than home. And my heart was moved upon the realization that, if the worst were to ever happen to me, they probably would probably actually prefer it to occur in their home and not out there where I could have gotten "kidnapped/raped/trafficked" as my mom gently put it. My mom has shown interest in moving to another house, anyway, so my death in my room will probably kickstart a new chapter for them. They'd probably take it as a sign from God.

If anyone knows the practical details of the CTB aftermath in a house with other inhabitants, please kindly let me know. I know that any unnatural death will trigger a police investigation, and another kind user created a list of tasks to complete to minimize hardship for loved ones left behind. The goal here is to make the painful police investigation as short as possible.

But I have other questions such as - will the entire family have to relocate due to establishing a crime scene or will the police likely just seal off my room only? How long will an autopsy take? How long will it take for the family to obtain a death certificate? Are the police responsible for biohazard cleanup, and if not, would it be a good idea to leave a list of resources for my family (my method is SN, it should be easy enough to lay out some tarp, towels, and wear a diaper before committing, but just wanna make sure)? What is the cheapest body disposal method (different types of cremations/burials/etc)?

Thank you guys so much.

It really depends on the state your in and even whether or not your city/county has a coroner medical examiner etc.. despite what other people have posted the police WILL ALWAYS be involved in any death. If it is an obvious suicide (head shot hanging etc..) there will be a perfunctory investigation to ensure no one forced you or "set up" a suicide. (It happens) depending on the size of your area big city rural county etc... and how much area your coroner/medical examiner has to cover your room will probably be the only area that's closed. I can't stress enough it greatly depends on your area and whoever will rule on cause of death coroner etc...

If you ctb at home in the US, yes it will automatically trigger a police response and investigation since it's considered an unattended death. But they don't turn the whole house into a crime scene, especially if there are no signs of foul play. Typically they'll secure the room where you're found, take photos, collect any obvious evidence (like the SN container, note, medications), and do interviews with family. But unless something looks suspicious or confusing, they won't seal off the entire house or force your family to relocate.

Regarding the autopsy, from what I've read in most states it's required for any unnatural death unless you're under hospice care. With SN it's not always easy to spot without toxicology, so unless you leave a note and packaging clearly labeled, they may investigate more deeply. Autopsy reports can take weeks for toxicology results to come back, but the death certificate itself usually comes faster like iirc within a week or two, often with the cause listed as pending until the full report is done.

Police aren't responsible for cleanup. That's on the next of kin unfortunately. SN is not typically messy like a gunshot or hanging, but there still may be bodily fluids (vomit, urine, poop, etc.). You're smart to plan ahead leaving tarp, towels, a disposable pad or diaper, and cleanup instructions or a biohazard cleaning service list would actually help a lot.

As for body disposition direct cremation is the cheapest and most common. Donating your body to science is free in some cases, but usually not accepted if it's a suicide especially not with chemical ingestion (that's based on what I know in NZ but a quick search suggests its probably the same over there).

Homeowners insurance covers clean up if you have it. Serve pro and other professional cleaners come in to do it. The coroner's office will have information on who to contact.

 

[TAW122]

I too have overprotective parents (yes, my own parents are immigrant parents as well), and although I may be much older (in my 30's), I too faced the same dilemma. I suppose if it is uncertain if the police are going to turn your entire house into a crime scene and lock it down (making it really difficult for others to go about their day to day life) or so, then maybe going to a secluded area (I know it won't be as familiar as your own home), might be an option to consider. Everyone's situation is different though. While I'm not going via SN, and mine is sadly, going to be more brutal, I've taken measures to ensure that I minimize the amount of damage as I can, but of course, not at the cost of compromising my CTB attempt (no unnecessary convoluted complicated and elaborate actions or so, but reasonable ones).

In the end, I guess it's ultimately your decision as you know what is best in your personal circumstances.

 

[gothbird]

Homeowners insurance covers clean up if you have it. Serve pro and other professional cleaners come in to do it. The coroner's office will have information on who to contact.

Good to know! Will add to my repertoire.