Discussion In a few months I will be required to register for military service in my country.

[sla_porra22]

I'll need to enlist in a few months. I have until July to do it. I honestly don't want to go, but I've been seriously considering trying to pass the draft and using the weapons at the barracks to commit suicide. Perhaps it would be the best opportunity I could have, and I'm very torn about whether or not to ask to serve in the army. Has anyone else considered using this to their advantage? Do you think it could work?

 

[Worndown]

May I ask what country?

 

[Dejected 55]

Randomly... men are required in the US to register for selective service (military draft) by the time they are 18. But funnily enough, I do not remember this ever being discussed when I was in school. Like, it never came up at all... not even in high school. I was 17 when I graduated high school and was most of a full year of college done before I turned 18. The ONLY reason I knew to register was my father had been in the Air Force and he talked about it.

I was born in 1970. Was I alone in the experience of never having it come up at any point during my life outside of my father? I wonder how many people grow up not knowing they are supposed to register.

 

[sla_porra22]

Randomly... men are required in the US to register for selective service (military draft) by the time they are 18. But funnily enough, I do not remember this ever being discussed when I was in school. Like, it never came up at all... not even in high school. I was 17 when I graduated high school and was most of a full year of college done before I turned 18. The ONLY reason I knew to register was my father had been in the Air Force and he talked about it.

I was born in 1970. Was I alone in the experience of never having it come up at any point during my life outside of my father? I wonder how many people grow up not knowing they are supposed to register.

In my country, this is always said from when you are little. And if you don't show up for mandatory military service, you can receive very heavy fines (Which are adjusted and also reapplied semi-annually), It becomes impossible to get a passport, a work permit, study, and other things. So here I think that's very unlikely to happen. You might receive a discharge, and in that case you'll be marked as someone who will only be called upon in times of war. If you are called up for service and don't go, they will send soldiers to pick you up at home and you could spend some time in detention at the barracks

Mandatory service lasts 1 to 2 years, but you don't get paid for it unless you want to continue in the field after your mandatory service ends

 

[Dejected 55]

In the US there are penalties for not registering. Also, you are expected to keep your registration current (if you move, for instance) up until a certain age. I can't remember what age that was, 30 maybe? I honestly don't remember.

One of the other odd things in the US is... In school and in national news media they talk all the time about the draft back during the major wars and up to the Vietnam war... how they were calling kids up for service... BUT what is taught and communicated here mostly is that the draft was "ended" after the Vietnam war.

This is definitively FALSE... the draft never was ended. The government has just stopped using it because a combination of lack of major wars and when things have bubbled up (like after 9/11) there have been enough registrations voluntarily that they haven't needed it... but at any time, the government could start drafting kids again. I don't know the protocol for doing so, but that's why all males have to register for the draft in this country... so that they already know where you are if they decide to call people up again.

The combination of the false education of "the draft ended" and not telling maturing boys that they need to register sets up the scenario I really think must be common, of boys being surprised that they were supposed to register at age 18.

 

[Ligottian]

I was one of the first male Americans to register for Selective Service in 1980. Nobody freaked out. There was no war. Jimmy Carter did it because of the Iran hostages. They haven't had my address (legally) since I think I was 28.

 

[OzymandiAsh]

Could work if you can hide any signs of suicidality until a live firing exercise, and then shoot your brains out before anyone can stop you, yes.

 

[sla_porra22]

Could work if you can hide any signs of suicidality until a live firing exercise, and then shoot your brains out before anyone can stop you, yes.

Here, it's also quite common to assign recruits to guard the barracks in watchtowers, for example. Two are stationed in each tower, usually at night. This would further increase my chances, I think. But I don't know what they take into consideration to decide who stays in the towers, even if there's a rotation system

 

[the_seer]

Haii mate, I believe I'm from your country and I'm facing the same experience as you, however, I'll just use your method as a plan B in case I do get drafted, as I mainly plan to use SN in other cases.

This way of suicide is not that uncommon actually, I've heard many tales of sum recruits killing themselves during night shift. Just don't show signs that you actually wanna do something to yourself because then they're not gonna put you within reach of weapons at all.

 

[houseofleaves]

In my country, this is always said from when you are little. And if you don't show up for mandatory military service, you can receive very heavy fines (Which are adjusted and also reapplied semi-annually), It becomes impossible to get a passport, a work permit, study, and other things. So here I think that's very unlikely to happen. You might receive a discharge, and in that case you'll be marked as someone who will only be called upon in times of war. If you are called up for service and don't go, they will send soldiers to pick you up at home and you could spend some time in detention at the barracks

Mandatory service lasts 1 to 2 years, but you don't get paid for it unless you want to continue in the field after your mandatory service ends

Russia, right? Don't go unless you 100% plan to kill yourself there. I'm heavily opinionated, but obviously not without reasons

I honestly don't want to go

Try alternative civil service. And buy SN while you still can.

 

[DeadManLiving]

The El Paso camp is currently being used to evaluate immigrants for expedited military training and deployment readiness. Trump's hand has been forced (and paid) to continue engaging in OP Epic Fury. While Americans would strongly object their own kind being deployed in the upcoming boots on the ground touchdown, immigrants and other marginalized groups would not be subject to such backlash and therefore strategic cannon fodder.

 

[sla_porra22]

Haii mate, I believe I'm from your country and I'm facing the same experience as you, however, I'll just use your method as a plan B in case I do get drafted, as I mainly plan to use SN in other cases.

This way of suicide is not that uncommon actually, I've heard many tales of sum recruits killing themselves during night shift. Just don't show signs that you actually wanna do something to yourself because then they're not gonna put you within reach of weapons at all.

In my case, it's also a plan B. Currently, I'm considering using SN or committing CTB via ligature strangulation. I believe I'm unlikely to be drafted into the army, and even if I am, I might have killed myself by then.

I recently registered online and am waiting to be called to report to the barracks for physical exams and to find out if I'll move on to the next stage or be discharged from military service

Russia, right?

Actually, I'm from a South American country. I don't intend to specify exactly which one, but I'm definitely not from Russia (Unfortunately. The people I met there are really nice)

And buy SN while you still can.

Apparently, SN is quite easy to acquire here. I even found it in online retail stores with very high purity and a relatively low price. But I'm still a bit unsure if it might be a fake advertisement, Or with the wrong purity

 

[pleroman]

In my case, it's also a plan B. Currently, I'm considering using SN or committing CTB via ligature strangulation. I believe I'm unlikely to be drafted into the army, and even if I am, I might have killed myself by then.

I recently registered online and am waiting to be called to report to the barracks for physical exams and to find out if I'll move on to the next stage or be discharged from military service

Actually, I'm from a South American country. I don't intend to specify exactly which one, but I'm definitely not from Russia (Unfortunately. The people I met there are really nice)

Apparently, SN is quite easy to acquire here. I even found it in online retail stores with very high purity and a relatively low price. But I'm still a bit unsure if it might be a fake advertisement, Or with the wrong purity

If you're from South America, do you think veterinary pentobarbital may be possible to acquire? That's the dream of most of this forum, myself included.

 

[sla_porra22]

If you're from South America, do you think veterinary pentobarbital may be possible to acquire? That's the dream of most of this forum, myself included.

Honestly, I find that very difficult to believe. Normally, when they need to euthanize an animal, it's all done within the clinic. They would hardly administer it without a prescription or several questions. The best option might be to ask a friend in the field to steal some, but I don't know anyone who works in veterinary medicine (besides my sister's friends, which is out of the question)

Still, it might be possible. Especially in small towns where control over any type of substance is almost nonexistent

 

[Yugi55]

I think SN or ligature may work better for you . Although you will have access to a firearm you will be surrounded by people with military experience ready to stop you if they sense something is wrong and you will have to with hide your intentions till you find the right opportunity and also face the consequences if the attempt gets stopped somehow or fails. You have to really think it through if you want to proceed that way but it is possible.

 

[sla_porra22]

I think SN or ligature may work better for you.

These are actually my first options right now. Whether I'll be called up for military service is still a big question mark, since I haven't even been called to report to headquarters yet.

Although you will have access to a firearm you will be surrounded by people with military experience ready to stop you if they sense something is wrong and you will have to with hide your intentions till you find the right opportunity and also face the consequences if the attempt gets stopped somehow or fails.

Luckily, by the time they stopped me, I probably would have been dead already. The watchtowers where they leave the recruits are left without any supervision from an officer or on-duty medics. The most they could do is put me in some vehicle and try to take me to a hospital. The biggest problem would probably be the second person who stays in the tower; they never leave anyone completely alone. But I think that's the least of it; it's possible to let him sleep on the floor while I "keep watch."