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weonaestupida

weonaestupida

Member
May 13, 2019
38
I've been here for two months aprox and sometimes i feel like ctb and i go back here ,sometimes im not so i just suffer on my own
but now i'm just tired ,tired of feeling that this is all i could ever have, that the only way to be in other state of mind is to abuse of drugs like benzos, tired of not being able to study or working ,not being able to socialize with the people who i love ,tired of not know what to say to my gf when she says she's worried bout me ,tired of this fucking country where everything is so fucking wrong and so fucking difficult to have basic shit like food or a place where i can live (i'm talking bout chile) tired of seeing how many people kill themselves on the subway and all people say is "ugh not again i'm going late to work" or whatever, how many people commit suicide bc the pressure of the universities ,how many old people decide to die together with their husband or wife bc they can't afford the food,the medication, the house , the bills, etc .
i'm fucking sick of myself ,sick of not shower myself in days ,sick of not being able to eat, sick of the nastiness of my bedroom, sick of the abstinence of the drugs ,sick about not having any money (for real i have less than a dollar in totaling) sick of this expensive life in this expensive country ,
maybe you are from other countries from europe or idk ,and all feeling are valid but it's so different to feel this kind of suicidal and depressed in latinamerica than in any europe country
it's just hopeless and no one cares ,not even the people ,not even the government,not even the doctors ,nobody.
 
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dandan

dandan

One more attempt on life.
Feb 18, 2019
1,298
Yeah, I know what you mean.... I'm sick of myself wanting to die but not killing myself, as a consequence I was so sick I decided to give life one more chance....

Fuck it ain't easy, I'm also sick about that! Sick of having no money. But I have chosen to do something about it!


Another thing is to do it if I can and see if it works out, but really do it ... If it doesn't I'll call it quits .... And ctb
 
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Severen

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Jun 30, 2018
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The rich and the wealthy are fucking the entire world. Not just Chile. It might not look like this to some people because such things, take time.

 
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weonaestupida

weonaestupida

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May 13, 2019
38
The rich and the wealthy are fucking the entire world. Not just Chile. It might not look like this to some people because such things, take time.


where you from? capitalism is making people depressed and poor around the world yea its true ,but here we don't just have a capitalism system but a neoliberal one too ,
that's killing people here for the same reason, no money and no options
i can only talk about the chile's situation but i don't think it's so different between other latinoamerican countries
 
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Jynxer

Jynxer

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Jun 3, 2019
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I've been here for two months aprox and sometimes i feel like ctb and i go back here ,sometimes im not so i just suffer on my own
but now i'm just tired ,tired of feeling that this is all i could ever have, that the only way to be in other state of mind is to abuse of drugs like benzos, tired of not being able to study or working ,not being able to socialize with the people who i love ,tired of not know what to say to my gf when she says she's worried bout me ,tired of this fucking country where everything is so fucking wrong and so fucking difficult to have basic shit like food or a place where i can live (i'm talking bout chile) tired of seeing how many people kill themselves on the subway and all people say is "ugh not again i'm going late to work" or whatever, how many people commit suicide bc the pressure of the universities ,how many old people decide to die together with their husband or wife bc they can't afford the food,the medication, the house , the bills, etc .
i'm fucking sick of myself ,sick of not shower myself in days ,sick of not being able to eat, sick of the nastiness of my bedroom, sick of the abstinence of the drugs ,sick about not having any money (for real i have less than a dollar in totaling) sick of this expensive life in this expensive country ,
maybe you are from other countries from europe or idk ,and all feeling are valid but it's so different to feel this kind of suicidal and depressed in latinamerica than in any europe country
it's just hopeless and no one cares ,not even the people ,not even the government,not even the doctors ,nobody.
I'm so sorry that you live in such a bad situation I couldn't even imagine. The whole world is corrupt now adays. Only the people with a shit ton of money thrive. It sucks. People see money and that's it. The poor doesn't even exist in the rich persons minds. It's a proven fact. Every. Single. Day.
 
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Final Escape

I’ve been here too long
Jul 8, 2018
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Only part you are wrong about is it's not capitalism that impoverishes, it's socialism. Socialism ignores human nature, doesn't respect individual differences in ability, sex differences, ignores science and established facts. If we aren't living according to how nature designed things to work, civilization can't be sustained and gradually most people become impoverished. Only a small percentage of smart people are able to invent stuff, and keep the technology going to feed everybody. So if u keep ignoring how things are supposed to work in nature, that's why u see a gradual decline in prosperity for most people. Slavery has never worked and kills millions of people. Everytime they have tried to implement socialism, the socialists ignore reality and it costs millions of lives.
 
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weonaestupida

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May 13, 2019
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Only part you are wrong about is it's not capitalism that impoverishes, it's socialism. Socialism ignores human nature, doesn't respect individual differences in ability, sex differences, ignores science and established facts. If we aren't living according to how nature designed things to work, civilization can't be sustained and gradually most people become impoverished. Only a small percentage of smart people are able to invent stuff, and keep the technology going to feed everybody. So if u keep ignoring how things are supposed to work in nature, that's why u see a gradual decline in prosperity for most people. Slavery has never worked and kills millions of people. Everytime they have tried to implement socialism, the socialists ignore reality and it costs millions of lives.
what the fuck is socialism has to do here? capitalism is killing more people than any dictatorship or genocide ,i'm not socialist or communism but a person who is living the hell of capital neoliberalism and i'm seeing all my love ones suffering bc of this slavery way of life
people are starving and dying in hospitals and y'all still have time to blame socialism
 
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KnightOfEnceladus

Lost child in time
May 20, 2019
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@Final Escape: with all due respect, that's rather ignorant. What kills people is the concentration of wealth, resources, and power in the hands of a selfish few. That can happen in any economic milieu, and it is about to happen under current capitalism as bad as it did under any so-called socialist regime. The way the resources concentrate it irrelevant; that they do is the killer. You could perhaps argue that the government structures built around communism or socialism make it easier or more likely, but even that's a stretch.
 
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Jean Améry

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Only part you are wrong about is it's not capitalism that impoverishes, it's socialism. Socialism ignores human nature, doesn't respect individual differences in ability, sex differences, ignores science and established facts. If we aren't living according to how nature designed things to work, civilization can't be sustained and gradually most people become impoverished. Only a small percentage of smart people are able to invent stuff, and keep the technology going to feed everybody. So if u keep ignoring how things are supposed to work in nature, that's why u see a gradual decline in prosperity for most people. Slavery has never worked and kills millions of people. Everytime they have tried to implement socialism, the socialists ignore reality and it costs millions of lives.

You're seriously going to invoke the naturalistic fallacy? In nature everything eats eachother. Which is basically what unbridled capitalism is: survival of the fittest (literally: if you can't pay for healthcare you die) and one big megacorporation that owns everything at the end of the line.

If one is extremely intelligent and talented one should be properly rewarded but lets not forget no-one is responsible for the genes and intellgence we're born with. Why should people be poor just because they have little to no economic value?

Communism and democratic socialism are not the same thing. Democratic socialism embraces capitalism but adds correction mechanisms to make sure the lower classes do not have to endure extreme poverty or die because they can't afford to pay for healthcare.

To what extent the state has the right to tax its citizens for the well-being of all is a matter of debate but to me at least it's clear neither pure communism nor pure capitalism works. Both ended in utter disaster.

Of course capitalism causes poverty: if you don't have any useful skills you won't get a job and hence become poor. If you're too sick to work same thing. By your logic there should be no poor in countries like the US. Clearly there are and a lot of them. In fact the wealth disparity in what is supposed to be the greatest capitalist economy in the world has only gotten worse, not better, for most people.

Even people like Ray Dalio (founder of Bridgewater) have publicly admitted capitalism that does not benefit the majority will only lead to ruin.
 
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Final Escape

I’ve been here too long
Jul 8, 2018
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@Final Escape: with all due respect, that's rather ignorant. What kills people is the concentration of wealth, resources, and power in the hands of a selfish few. That can happen in any economic milieu, and it is about to happen under current capitalism as bad as it did under any so-called socialist regime. The way the resources concentrate it irrelevant; that they do is the killer. You could perhaps argue that the government structures built around communism or socialism make it easier or more likely, but even that's a stretch.
Central banking, central planning, welfare, creating laws that make it harder for people to freely exchange their services or goods. Subsidizing poverty, destroying the value of the currency, forced redistribution of income through taxation. All these ways that gov meddles in the economy makes it not free market capitalism. Socialism is often a gradual process, because they can't implement it too fast. People would freak out if they wake up and suddenly lost all their freedom. It's been a gradual process like the frog being boiled slowly.

On YouTube they are really beginning to ratchet up the censorship, that's definitely a sign that we are headed for worse things. Freedom of speech is necessary for freedom. Hate speech technically doesn't exist because it's just words unless u are making threats to kill people or something. You should be able to say what you think or any opinion in a civilized discussion. Often painful truths are offensive to people but if people cannot talk about certain things we end up moving backwards not forward. History will repeat if people are not educated well and told the truth. Of course the ruling class doesn't care because they benefit from brainwashing us.
 

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Alan James

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All these systems are just masking slavery. I personally don't need any money from them - I only need the right to euthanasia. I WANT to pay them money to get rid of myself-a worthless burden. I want to die, but I don't want and can't blow my brains out with a shotgun or jump under a train. But this system is so disgusting that it is even impossible to die here peacefully and reliable for money, it is not capitalism, not socialism, not how it is arranged in nature - it is an ordinary slavery.
 
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dandan

dandan

One more attempt on life.
Feb 18, 2019
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The biggest problem is that I, and probably YOU , did not found a way to make Money!!!

then use that money to make more money, learn about compound capital, like compound interest...

The biggest problem is not knowing how to make money!
 
waived

waived

I am a sunrise
Jan 5, 2019
974
Central banking, central planning, welfare, creating laws that make it harder for people to freely exchange their services or goods. Subsidizing poverty, destroying the value of the currency, forced redistribution of income through taxation. All these ways that gov meddles in the economy makes it not free market capitalism. Socialism is often a gradual process, because they can't implement it too fast. People would freak out if they wake up and suddenly lost all their freedom. It's been a gradual process like the frog being boiled slowly.

On YouTube they are really beginning to ratchet up the censorship, that's definitely a sign that we are headed for worse things. Freedom of speech is necessary for freedom. Hate speech technically doesn't exist because it's just words unless u are making threats to kill people or something. You should be able to say what you think or any opinion in a civilized discussion. Often painful truths are offensive to people but if people cannot talk about certain things we end up moving backwards not forward. History will repeat if people are not educated well and told the truth. Of course the ruling class doesn't care because they benefit from brainwashing us.

Imo you should spend more time learning about these topics before posting, because in the time I've been here you probably could have advanced your talking points past complete gibberish.
 
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Only part you are wrong about is it's not capitalism that impoverishes, it's socialism. Socialism ignores human nature, doesn't respect individual differences in ability, sex differences, ignores science and established facts. If we aren't living according to how nature designed things to work, civilization can't be sustained and gradually most people become impoverished. Only a small percentage of smart people are able to invent stuff, and keep the technology going to feed everybody. So if u keep ignoring how things are supposed to work in nature, that's why u see a gradual decline in prosperity for most people. Slavery has never worked and kills millions of people. Everytime they have tried to implement socialism, the socialists ignore reality and it costs millions of lives.
That is quite an interesting theory you've got going on there. Me personally, I live in a socialist democratic country with free health care, no university fees, free high school books&trips, the list could go on forever... It is written in our constitution to give equal rights to all of our citizens, same-sex marriage is legal and we do not ignore science but encourage it. We have the right for basic income+health care if we are unable to work due to illness. You will also receive these benefits if you are healthy and registered at an unemployment agency.
 
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waived

I am a sunrise
Jan 5, 2019
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That is quite an interesting theory you've got going on there. Me personally, I live in a socialist democratic country with free health care, no university fees, free high school books&trips, the list could go on forever... It is written in our constitution to give equal rights to all of our citizens, same-sex marriage is legal and we do not ignore science but encourage it. We have the right for basic income+health care if we are unable to work due to illness. You will also receive these benefits if you are healthy and registered at an unemployment agency.

Yet mysteriously similar as well as identical afflictions appear there as well. Hmm, what ever could be the common elements that are very easy to see existing across different geographic locations. We may never know without simply looking at it and thinking.
 
not_a_robot

not_a_robot

"i hope the leaving is joyful, & never to return"
May 30, 2019
2,121
Lol.
Capitalist. Neo-liberal. Socialist. Republican. Democrat. Conservative. Christian. Muslim. Jew.

These words are all just menial distinctions that the pigs who control you use to keep you all choosing sides and fighting each other, while they continue to rob you all blind, no matter what flag or label you live under.
 
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Numbtopain97

deader than dead
Aug 10, 2019
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I've been here for two months aprox and sometimes i feel like ctb and i go back here ,sometimes im not so i just suffer on my own
but now i'm just tired ,tired of feeling that this is all i could ever have, that the only way to be in other state of mind is to abuse of drugs like benzos, tired of not being able to study or working ,not being able to socialize with the people who i love ,tired of not know what to say to my gf when she says she's worried bout me ,tired of this fucking country where everything is so fucking wrong and so fucking difficult to have basic shit like food or a place where i can live (i'm talking bout chile) tired of seeing how many people kill themselves on the subway and all people say is "ugh not again i'm going late to work" or whatever, how many people commit suicide bc the pressure of the universities ,how many old people decide to die together with their husband or wife bc they can't afford the food,the medication, the house , the bills, etc .
i'm fucking sick of myself ,sick of not shower myself in days ,sick of not being able to eat, sick of the nastiness of my bedroom, sick of the abstinence of the drugs ,sick about not having any money (for real i have less than a dollar in totaling) sick of this expensive life in this expensive country ,
maybe you are from other countries from europe or idk ,and all feeling are valid but it's so different to feel this kind of suicidal and depressed in latinamerica than in any europe country
it's just hopeless and no one cares ,not even the people ,not even the government,not even the doctors ,nobody.

I feel the same.if hell was a place on earth it would be my country. being born here is a curse.
 
BlueWidow

BlueWidow

Visionary
Oct 6, 2019
2,179
Central banking, central planning, welfare, creating laws that make it harder for people to freely exchange their services or goods. Subsidizing poverty, destroying the value of the currency, forced redistribution of income through taxation. All these ways that gov meddles in the economy makes it not free market capitalism. Socialism is often a gradual process, because they can't implement it too fast. People would freak out if they wake up and suddenly lost all their freedom. It's been a gradual process like the frog being boiled slowly.

On YouTube they are really beginning to ratchet up the censorship, that's definitely a sign that we are headed for worse things. Freedom of speech is necessary for freedom. Hate speech technically doesn't exist because it's just words unless u are making threats to kill people or something. You should be able to say what you think or any opinion in a civilized discussion. Often painful truths are offensive to people but if people cannot talk about certain things we end up moving backwards not forward. History will repeat if people are not educated well and told the truth. Of course the ruling class doesn't care because they benefit from brainwashing us.

It's basically all about the ruling class attaining as much power as they possibly can over the lower classes. If they get enough power, then they can enslave the lower classes and there's nothing the lower classes can do about it. It all starts with getting rid of free speech and taking away people's ability to defend themselves.
 
theboy

theboy

Illuminated
Jul 15, 2022
3,188
I've been here for two months aprox and sometimes i feel like ctb and i go back here ,sometimes im not so i just suffer on my own
but now i'm just tired ,tired of feeling that this is all i could ever have, that the only way to be in other state of mind is to abuse of drugs like benzos, tired of not being able to study or working ,not being able to socialize with the people who i love ,tired of not know what to say to my gf when she says she's worried bout me ,tired of this fucking country where everything is so fucking wrong and so fucking difficult to have basic shit like food or a place where i can live (i'm talking bout chile) tired of seeing how many people kill themselves on the subway and all people say is "ugh not again i'm going late to work" or whatever, how many people commit suicide bc the pressure of the universities ,how many old people decide to die together with their husband or wife bc they can't afford the food,the medication, the house , the bills, etc .
i'm fucking sick of myself ,sick of not shower myself in days ,sick of not being able to eat, sick of the nastiness of my bedroom, sick of the abstinence of the drugs ,sick about not having any money (for real i have less than a dollar in totaling) sick of this expensive life in this expensive country ,
maybe you are from other countries from europe or idk ,and all feeling are valid but it's so different to feel this kind of suicidal and depressed in latinamerica than in any europe country
it's just hopeless and no one cares ,not even the people ,not even the government,not even the doctors ,nobody.
Es cierto. Últimamente han habido varias estaciones cerradas en el metro y solo veo caras de disgusto. Vivir en Chile es caro y los sueldos son bajos. Es una contradicción enorme.
¿Qué paso al final con tu novia?
 

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