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I need to CBT within a week and all I have is a razor and the sixteenth floor.
The thing with 16 floor is that i need to make a long jump to reach flat asphalt (I assume it's the perfect surface), and also I'm afraid of heights since childhood, and also also i'm not even sure 16 is enough.
As for the razor - i'm not scared of cutting myself, in fact i did it before, but cutting through skin (I made cuts about a centimeter deep on my legs and hands) isn't the same as cutting through flash, arteries and almost reaching bones.
I know cutting whists is one of the worst methods to CBT cuz of low rate of success, that's why i'm thinking to cut my throat, since it's more lethal. But i don't know the proper way to do it. Should i cut above or below adam's apple, should i focus arteries or just go from one side of the neck to another as deep as i can and through trachea (cutting trachea is probably the only thing that scares me in this method).
 
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Jumping is the better option in my opinion because cutting you have to fight SI. You also could be saved before you die.
 
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I need to CBT within a week and all I have is a razor and the sixteenth floor.
The thing with 16 floor is that i need to make a long jump to reach flat asphalt (I assume it's the perfect surface), and also I'm afraid of heights since childhood, and also also i'm not even sure 16 is enough.
As for the razor - i'm not scared of cutting myself, in fact i did it before, but cutting through skin (I made cuts about a centimeter deep on my legs and hands) isn't the same as cutting through flash, arteries and almost reaching bones.
I know cutting whists is one of the worst methods to CBT cuz of low rate of success, that's why i'm thinking to cut my throat, since it's more lethal. But i don't know the proper way to do it. Should i cut above or below adam's apple, should i focus arteries or just go from one side of the neck to another as deep as i can and through trachea (cutting trachea is probably the only thing that scares me in this method).
No other things could be arranged? Both these and especially throat one I am sorry but I am such a coward. I don't know if I can prick myself
 
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Cutting one's own throat is very difficult
You would have to stab your neck several times (without stopping) until you can't do it anymore. The other option is to make a precise cut above the Adam's apple or the yogular.
As you can see, it is not that easy
 
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Cutting one's own throat is very difficult
You would have to stab your neck several times (without stopping) until you can't do it anymore. The other option is to make a precise cut above the Adam's apple or the yogular.
As you can see, it is not that easy
Several stabs aren't nessasary just one precise cut will do the job.
 
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Cutting one's own throat is very difficult
You would have to stab your neck several times (without stopping) until you can't do it anymore. The other option is to make a precise cut above the Adam's apple or the yogular.
As you can see, it is not that easy
i understand it's not easy, but i don't have any other choice. Is it should be enough if i cut exterior jugular or i need to go for anterior?
Several stabs aren't nessasary just one precise cut will do the job.
Where exactly i need to cut, is it the place where i can feel pulse on the side of the neck?

Jumping is the better option in my opinion because cutting you have to fight SI. You also could be saved before you die.
is it possible to survive when jumping from the 16th floor? what position should my body be in, what if i land on my feet?
 
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You might die from cutting the exterior jugular, but there is also a chance that you'll survive. If you're not sure where to cut, I seriously suggest you reconsider the cutting method, it is quite likely that you will only hurt yourself enough to pass out and survive.
Surviving a fall from 16th floor is also, unfortunately, not impossible, but I would say that is pretty much high enough to be more or less reliable. Pretty scary, I wouldn't do that as well due to the risk of grievous consequences if you do survive, but if you absolutely must chose one of these things, this would be better than neck cutting, way more reliable. If you jump, it's best to try to fall on your head. If you land feet-first, considering the height you will probably die anyway, but that would probably not be instant and will be painful.
If you'd like to talk about why you feel like you absolutely must do it within a week, I'd gladly hear you out and try to look for alternatives with you. Options you name are both pretty harsh, I hate that you have to go like this and wonder if there is any other way. If you don't feel like talking about it, that's okay too.
 
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You might die from cutting the exterior jugular, but there is also a chance that you'll survive. If you're not sure where to cut, I seriously suggest you reconsider the cutting method, it is quite likely that you will only hurt yourself enough to pass out and survive.
Surviving a fall from 16th floor is also, unfortunately, not impossible, but I would say that is pretty much high enough to be more or less reliable. Pretty scary, I wouldn't do that as well due to the risk of grievous consequences if you do survive, but if you absolutely must chose one of these things, this would be better than neck cutting, way more reliable. If you jump, it's best to try to fall on your head. If you land feet-first, considering the height you will probably die anyway, but that would probably not be instant and will be painful.
If you'd like to talk about why you feel like you absolutely must do it within a week, I'd gladly hear you out and try to look for alternatives with you. Options you name are both pretty harsh, I hate that you have to go like this and wonder if there is any other way. If you don't feel like talking about it, that's okay too.
Besides problems with health i have schizotypal personality disorder which i tried to cure for about 10 years without any success. From the end of 2020 to 2022 i'm jobless, and i only go out when i need food. I don't have any friends, i'm hitting myself, and i have addictions.
All these years I wanted to commit suicide, but I constantly put it off, because I felt sorry for my mother, now she has another concern in the form of a grandson, she is no longer so attached to me. Of course, she still loves me, but I am sure that she will survive my death, especially since she is aware of my problems and knows that I have suicidal thoughts. She will not be left alone, she has an older daughter.
The main reason why I want to die in the coming days is that I live in Russia, and as everyone probably already knows, our stupid fucking government, besides all the criminal things they already did, has announced mobilization. I evaded the draft into the army, and did not come to the military training camp and i don't have any plans to join this criminal war, and for that I face at least 2 years in prison. But from prison they are also sent to war. The problem is not that I am afraid of death in war, but that I do not know when I will be killed (which would make me happy), if I will be killed at all. I'm unlikely to be sent to the front line because of my health, and most likely they won't even give me a weapon (Russia most likely doesn't even have enough to arm professionals), so i have very slim chances to shot myself. I have a phobia, I can't be among people, I'd rather eat shit, but this will not solve my problem, only suicide can solve it.
I have very little time until they come for me, I am also constantly not alone at home, besides me there is also a mother, grandmother, sister and her son. so if I need to cut the neck or veins in the arms / legs, then most likely I will need to leave at night and do it in the forest nearby. If I need to jump, then it will be enough to go up to the 16th floor and jump out of the vestibule window. But as I said, I am afraid of heights since childhood and have no idea how I can force myself.
For the past few months I have been practicing the night-night method, but I gave up, because to feel the blackout with the use of a rope (in my case, a belt from a dressing gown) was only possible with a strong pressure on the trachea. I can easily achieve the sensation of passing out with my fingers (I am very thin, 60 kg at 183 cm), but with the tourniquet, this is almost impossible if there is no pressure on the trachea.
After that, I decided to use SN, but I could not get it in our country.
And now I'm here, without an adequate way to CTB and with limited time.
Please take into account that what I have described is not all the reasons why I have wanted to commit suicide for a long time. it would have taken too long, and English is not my native language, so it was already difficult for me to explain myself.
 
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Like @Nessie said, land on the head and cut the jugular vein but you have to fight SI stronger with cutting. Jumping is better and there is another option too. Shallow Water Blackout by hyperventilating and holding your breath under water. If those previous ones are crappy to you then you can try Shallow Water Blackout.
I am also sorry that you live in such a crappy country, I hope you find your peace soon.
 
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i understand it's not easy, but i don't have any other choice. Is it should be enough if i cut exterior jugular or i need to go for anterior?
The exterior is fine, if you cut deep enough.
Could you combine the two, cut the neck and jump into the void?
 
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Like @Nessie said, land on the head and cut the jugular vein but you have to fight SI stronger with cutting. Jumping is better and there is another option too. Shallow Water Blackout by hyperventilating and holding your breath under water. If those previous ones are crappy to you then you can try Shallow Water Blackout.
I am also sorry that you live in such a crappy country, I hope you find your peace soon.
Crappy is an understatement. Thx for your symphaty (if it's the right word, idk, sometimes english is hard).
I have river in nearby forest, but i doubt that I can get out of life in this way, on the other hand I could try it before cutting myself or jumping from the 16th floor.
 
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You can use any method you like but be sure to do them correctly. Land on the head for jumping, cut the jugular vein for cutting, and hyperventilate for at least five to ten minutes before holding your breath underwater for Shallow Water Blackout. Good luck and I hope you find your peace.
 
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Y444

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The exterior is fine, if you cut deep enough.
Could you combine the two, cut the neck and jump into the void?
From what I've read online, I don't quite understand how it's possible to survive a jugular cut if if no one helps me soon after. Is it because there is no certainty that I will get to it? Let's say I cut myself in the woods, where no one can find me for the next few days. Can i survive? And what happens if i will?
 
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Besides problems with health i have schizotypal personality disorder which i tried to cure for about 10 years without any success. From the end of 2020 to 2022 i'm jobless, and i only go out when i need food. I don't have any friends, i'm hitting myself, and i have addictions.
All these years I wanted to commit suicide, but I constantly put it off, because I felt sorry for my mother, now she has another concern in the form of a grandson, she is no longer so attached to me. Of course, she still loves me, but I am sure that she will survive my death, especially since she is aware of my problems and knows that I have suicidal thoughts. She will not be left alone, she has an older daughter.
The main reason why I want to die in the coming days is that I live in Russia, and as everyone probably already knows, our stupid fucking government, besides all the criminal things they already did, has announced mobilization. I evaded the draft into the army, and did not come to the military training camp and i don't have any plans to join this criminal war, and for that I face at least 2 years in prison. But from prison they are also sent to war. The problem is not that I am afraid of death in war, but that I do not know when I will be killed (which would make me happy), if I will be killed at all. I'm unlikely to be sent to the front line because of my health, and most likely they won't even give me a weapon (Russia most likely doesn't even have enough to arm professionals), so i have very slim chances to shot myself. I have a phobia, I can't be among people, I'd rather eat shit, but this will not solve my problem, only suicide can solve it.
I have very little time until they come for me, I am also constantly not alone at home, besides me there is also a mother, grandmother, sister and her son. so if I need to cut the neck or veins in the arms / legs, then most likely I will need to leave at night and do it in the forest nearby. If I need to jump, then it will be enough to go up to the 16th floor and jump out of the vestibule window. But as I said, I am afraid of heights since childhood and have no idea how I can force myself.
For the past few months I have been practicing the night-night method, but I gave up, because to feel the blackout with the use of a rope (in my case, a belt from a dressing gown) was only possible with a strong pressure on the trachea. I can easily achieve the sensation of passing out with my fingers (I am very thin, 60 kg at 183 cm), but with the tourniquet, this is almost impossible if there is no pressure on the trachea.
After that, I decided to use SN, but I could not get it in our country.
And now I'm here, without an adequate way to CTB and with limited time.
Please take into account that what I have described is not all the reasons why I have wanted to commit suicide for a long time. it would have taken too long, and English is not my native language, so it was already difficult for me to explain myself.
Fucking hell. It IS that bad, huh? I'm really sorry. This is fucking awful.
Okay, first of all let's not panic. I see why you feel like time is of essence and why you're scared, but do you have any definite reasons to believe the government is actually coming for you? I mean I see that you apparently broke the law, but there's a ton of people like you, they will not chase down everyone within a week. Considering that you are not officially employed, not registered as a soldier in reserve and aren't even all that social, so you probably don't have anyone who could snitch on you, officials might not find you at all. I understand why it's a risk though. If you feel like you could explain your situation better in Russian regarding the details of how you avoided draft, you can PM me, I know some Russian lawyers, maybe I can advise something.
I also think I saw some links to marketplaces where you can get SN in Russia, I can share them if you'd like, you can PM me for that as well.
Also, I see why you ruled out partial hanging, but if you plan to go to a forest - maybe full suspension on a sturdy branch can work? It would be quicker, less painful and probably more reliable than cutting...Jumping is also not too bad, but I understand how the fear of heights can feel impossible to overcome, even if you absolutely feel like dying.
Crap. I wish I had a better way to help. It is awful. I'm so sorry.
 
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but do you have any definite reasons to believe the government is actually coming for you?
Eventually they will come for everyone with balls and limbs. But also the thing is that under the new laws I'm already a criminal, unless I myself come to the military registration and enlistment office in the next couple of days, and for obvious reasons I don't want to do this.

they will not chase down everyone within a week.
Maybe not, maybe yes, as you can tell I'm not too lucky to play Russian roulette. And I've lived in fear long enough.

officials might not find you at all
It's not hard to find me, i live in the apartment in which I am registered. Since im criminal now all the police have to do is check my place of residence in the database and visit me. if I lived alone, I could probably just "sit quieter than water and be lower than the grass", i.e. pretend that no one is at home, but that's not the case, unfortunetly i'm not alone. And if i where, I would certainly have committed suicide by now.

If you feel like you could explain your situation better in Russian regarding the details of how you avoided draft, you can PM me, I know some Russian lawyers, maybe I can advise something.
Laws in Russia are just a joke, especially now during wartime. they can literally do anything and drag anyone to this criminal war, regardless of health problems, as I said earlier: as long as you have balls, legs and arms. i guess only brains are not required to serve in our army.

I also think I saw some links to marketplaces where you can get SN in Russia, I can share them if you'd like, you can PM me for that as well.
it would be great, allthough i searched all the online stores, at least i think so.

Also, I see why you ruled out partial hanging, but if you plan to go to a forest - maybe full suspension on a sturdy branch can work? It would be quicker, less painful and probably more reliable than cutting..
Im considering this, need proper rope though.

I don't know why, but it's like something in the back of my head is telling me: "just cut". Of all the ways, for some reason this seems to me the least unpleasant. Fuck.

Crap. I wish I had a better way to help. It is awful. I'm so sorry.
I am grateful that you and others trying to help.
 
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I just tried to make a short but deep cut on my neck, and holy shit this is hard. it's not even about pain, but in the fact that I almost do not have enough strength. Like i maybe can puncture through skin but i doubt i can make a serious cut. Why tf i though i could do it? Now i'm even more scared.
 

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