Hm, ok, kinda get the message. Really. Don't want to be THAT person, I want to CTB too.
Just don't understand why is so bad to read someone's thread and think that they still have a salvation. When you take a look at venting threads, you see that most of us don't have someone to talk about our feelings, or about wanting to CTB, or literally just anything. Literally hundreds of threads saying that they just want someone to talk to, a friend, a lover, whatever, today I saw at least ten of them. For me, it's impossible to not emphatize and think "wow, maybe, and just maybe, if this human being have support from people he might actually get better". You can say that Recovery Forum exists, but nobody uses that, it's a poor argument, I don't think you really believe that's the real definitive solution.
Making sure you're doing a rational choice and not acting only by impulse is a bad thing? I don't know if anybody can convince me that.
So what you're saying is that the only place those of us who are serious have to speak about our decision, needs to be offered up to and altered for those who are not so serious, those who have the world as their oyster to instill second thoughts, and when this part of the forum fails them, it deserves to be criticized to the point of risking its existence?
Correct me if I am wrong.
If I am misinterpreting.
The thing is, I am really not up for giving the stage to bad actors or those who are simply waiting for the right hands to shake them of their decision.
I've also dealt with people before who swear they're set on suicide and don't want to be stopped, but they secretly just want attention and think LARPing as those at their absolute wits' end is the only appropriate, surefire way to do it.
(So excuse my vitriol, as I've had a bad taste put in my mouth from prior experiences.)
If the entirety of the internet as well as the recovery section isn't good enough for them, then that's on them.
But then I suppose you could argue "Well, maybe they did think they were serious, maybe it really did feel hopeless for them."
Well, firstly, I find that hard to believe considering most who find themselves here, in all likelihood, have exhausted all other avenues and attempts at resolving their reasons for wanting to die or needing to end permanent or progressive suffering.
(And people who are here for philosophical reasons should know better than to interfere.)
But I'll grant you the possibility that some slip through..especially after the recent publicity.
What should we have then, another discussion forum?
An in-between?
For those who are able to recover in actuality but find the recovery section offensive, belittling or unfitting to their perspective or situation.
And what would you call it?
"Reddit"?
But really, what would you call it?
And do you think anyone would be any more likely to post there rather than the other two main discussion forums?
Listen, if you see a venting thread where the poster seems open to suggestions for other solutions..by all means,
suggest.
Maybe there has been a misunderstanding here, but I am not even opposed to that.
However, I am opposed to people thinking it's necessary to "challenge" those of us here who have made it readily apparent that we are unequivocally set on ending our lives.
And if you see someone who describes a method that might leave them worse off than dead, then again, by all means..warn them of why it may not end well, why it could be more dangerous or painful than lethal.
I am guilty of interjection on those types of posts myself. And have even pissed some people off for it.
But I don't usually complain afterward about receiving that reaction.
Another thing you could do..private message the person if possible.
It's easier for them to wave you off if they know your suggestions are useless, and it comes across as more genuine if you really think you have some good advice..and they accept.
OT, but that's always one of my "fears" when I get to rambling.
I'll think I've come up with some (original) bomb ass analogy only to see it's been used before and usually in a better fashion
On a serious note, I experience extreme relief when I see people post the exact thoughts that I've been sitting on for YEARS because no one IRL can begin to relate.
Almost like a tiny weight lifted off my chest and I can breathe little bit easier because someone else gets it.
Oh I'm sure we could have probably come to the same conclusion independently, so your analogy is no less original than mine.
(And there's probably somebody else who used it long before us too, lol. As is always the case at this point in human history.)
Yes I feel the same, it is a relief to see that someone else's thought process has reached the same end, even if the rest of their life experiences may differ.
I'm not perfect. Although reflecting, I'm kinda surprised I didn't mention more how she felt. Oh well, now you know. She said she was impressed with how fast it worked. Apparently this drug can be fast acting, it's escitalopram if that means much to you. Yeah I know the feeling, I've been on so many I've lost count, it must be nearing 15 antidepressants now. 25 years of changes and none did a thing for me. But therapy and time seem to have been my healers
