i'm not gonna talk about suicide

[suicidalloser]

because while every says to reach out about it, talking about it has the inverse effect. Since they make it so taboo to where it can't be talked about, it won't be. simple.

 

[istheretrulyalife?]

Getting someone "help" is more of a punishment because of how psych wards are. Some people KNOW how people are treated there yet they either don't care or choose to ignore it.

It doesn't help anyone, it just reinforces the suicidal feeling. There are plenty of testimonies about that.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

You can always talk about it here, amongst people that truly understand.

 

[Centende]

because while every says to reach out about it, talking about it has the inverse effect. Since they make it so taboo to where it can't be talked about, it won't be. simple.

Going to therpay and calling the suicide hot line was actually a hillarious comedy experience they are all silly robots that look at you in the eyes and say the same rehearsed legally required phrase instead of showing any empaty its such bold evil behaviour!

And have you had any thoughts of hurting yourself... Well do you have a plan about how to do it then, do YUH!? bunch of retards pretending to be health professionals

 

[suicidalloser]

You can always talk about it here, amongst people that truly understand.

there's only one person outside this place (consider it IRL) that understands from a pro-choice view. i mentioned in my other thread i created somewhere lost, but yeah. it's rare, i care; one of kind i'm glad its mine?

Getting someone "help" is more of a punishment because of how psych wards are. Some people KNOW how people are treated there yet they either don't care or choose to ignore it.

It doesn't help anyone, it just reinforces the suicidal feeling. There are plenty of testimonies about that.

they absolutely ignore it. Been beaten? humiliated? all of the above you can list? They do not care, that is fact, that is the reality.

 

[loyalskateboard]

This website is the only place where I can be honest. Mental health help is always going to have consequences depending on what you say. Of course, for some people, inpatient admissions can be helpful. In others it's just a threat of going to jail the psych ward if you're too honest. Which doesn't allow you to get help even if you're willing to try. It's fucked.

 

[suicidalloser]

This website is the only place where I can be honest. Mental health help is always going to have consequences depending on what you say. Of course, for some people, inpatient admissions can be helpful. In others it's just a threat of going to jail the psych ward if you're too honest. Which doesn't allow you to get help even if you're willing to try. It's fucked.

stop giving a pass to the abuse of those facilities. solitary confinement and treat inhumane is not helpful.

 

[MrDarkness]

stop giving a pass to the abuse of those facilities. solitary confinement and treat inhumane is not helpful.

Not all psych wards are bad, depends where you live, I personally wouldn't go to one cause it wouldn't work for me, it's work for some just not me. I rather die in all honesty then to keep going

 

[suicidalloser]

Not all psych wards are bad, depends where you live, I personally wouldn't go to one cause it wouldn't work for me, it's work for some just not me. I rather die in all honesty then to keep going

Imprisonment for wanting to end my pain is OK? being force fed unsolicited things and religion is OK to do?

 

[loyalskateboard]

stop giving a pass to the abuse of those facilities. solitary confinement and treat inhumane is not helpful.

I'm not giving a pass, I've probably been admitted to the psych ward two dozen times from ages 11-21. The length of admissions range from a couple of days to several months. Not all wards are terribly abusive. Some people do get help from them. Every ward is not equal. Sometimes it's necessary for starting a medication or changing doses. Sometimes intense treatment for an eating disorder for example is better managed inpatient. Some people genuinely do find help in them. Of course some overuse chemical restraints, physical restraints, isolation etc etc but I can't say it's terrible 100% of the time for 100% of people. I hate the fact you can't be honest without risk of forced admission. I don't agree with the entire system and I'm not giving a pass whatsoever.

 

[suicidalloser]

I'm not giving a pass, I've probably been admitted to the psych ward two dozen times from ages 11-21. The length of admissions range from a couple of days to several months. Not all wards are terribly abusive. Some people do get help from them. Every ward is not equal. Sometimes it's necessary for starting a medication or changing doses. Sometimes intense treatment for an eating disorder for example is better managed inpatient. Some people genuinely do find help in them. Of course some overuse chemical restraints, physical restraints, isolation etc etc but I can't say it's terrible 100% of the time for 100% of people. I hate the fact you can't be honest without risk of forced admission. I don't agree with the entire system and I'm not giving a pass whatsoever.

Not giving it a pass — while giving it a pass.
'Sometimes it's necessary'

 

[loyalskateboard]

Not giving it a pass — while giving it a pass.
'Sometimes it's necessary'

For medication? Yes it can be. If you are going to start clozapine for example 99% of the time you will be in hospital for a bit. Most of the time that is a voluntary admission. If you think I'm giving the psych wards a pass for abusing patients, absolutely not. When it's beneficial for the patient, that's when I think it's a good thing.

 

[MrDarkness]

Imprisonment for wanting to end my pain is OK? being force fed unsolicited things and religion is OK to do?

That's you, maybe someone else wants to have help, am I saying you should trust one no? Am I saying you should go to one no?

 

[suicidalloser]

That's you, maybe someone else wants to have help, am I saying you should trust one no? Am I saying you should go to one no?

I'm saying I don't care; it's choice to be admitted as well. Enjoy it as so.

For medication? Yes it can be. If you are going to start clozapine for example 99% of the time you will be in hospital for a bit. Most of the time that is a voluntary admission. If you think I'm giving the psych wards a pass for abusing patients, absolutely not. When it's beneficial for the patient, that's when I think it's a good thing.

Pro lifer hides beneath the guise of an innocent.

 

[FuneralCry]

Suicide just cannot be discussed openly as after all we exist in this anti-choice society where suicidal people end up being punished simply for wanting to die which is a decision in which they have every right to make. We are all going to die anyway so I think it's perfectly logical wanting to leave on my own terms but opening up about this can lead to one suffering more in a psych ward so I think it's always best to stay quiet, as psych wards sound horrible to me, I hate how there is a lack of acceptance towards the right to die.

 

[SoftWorries]

I only talk about it in a safe place like here. However I've started referring to 'not wanting to be in my body' when I discuss how difficult it is to be alive

 

[Peerless_Cucumber]

Talking about it white a professional is no more than: "are you still suicidal?"

It's literally the only question the psychologist asked me in the psychiatry. There was no discussion regarding why I felt that way or what could be done about it. That is what happened every time I talked with a professional about it. Not once did they actually tried to help me. It was always "you're suicidal? Better make sure you don't kill yourself because of me and lock you up before you can!"

 

[liljeep]

I definitely never mention ideation to professionals. I don't believe in involuntary psych ward admissions, and it's terrifying thought to be admitted simply for having thoughts of it. Every time I've been admitted related to CTB was post-attempt, and what I really needed was to go home. Surviving is traumatic enough without being treated like a crazy person and stripped of autonomy until they deem me well enough to leave.

I mainly talk to the Trevor Project about it, rarely friends (even ones who've been suicidal) as it's scary for them and I don't want them to be worried for me. But I've found it comforting to come here and not get shut down or told to get help I am already getting. It really helps more to just hear someone they understand me than do a 'rescue attempt' from my own feelings. They won't disappear the second someone says things will get better. They don't know that, I don't know that. I can only hope and sometimes hope is intangible.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Pro lifer hides beneath the guise of an innocent.

Usually takes one to know one.

 

[Jolene79]

Do UK helplines trace your location or do anything about what you say does anyone know?

The truth is that I'm not actively suicidal ( planning my death in this moment) but how I might get out of my pain, hopeless situation and what I may feel inclined to do down the road does dominate my thoughts. I often want to just call a helpline to talk about my situation. I have to hide everything from those around me even though I'm incredibly physically unwell

 

[suicidalloser]

Usually takes one to know one.

so you tried to find one through my posts. how did that go?

 

[nozomu]

I definitely never mention ideation to professionals. I don't believe in involuntary psych ward admissions, and it's terrifying thought to be admitted simply for having thoughts of it. Every time I've been admitted related to CTB was post-attempt, and what I really needed was to go home. Surviving is traumatic enough without being treated like a crazy person and stripped of autonomy until they deem me well enough to leave.

I mainly talk to the Trevor Project about it, rarely friends (even ones who've been suicidal) as it's scary for them and I don't want them to be worried for me. But I've found it comforting to come here and not get shut down or told to get help I am already getting. It really helps more to just hear someone they understand me than do a 'rescue attempt' from my own feelings. They won't disappear the second someone says things will get better. They don't know that, I don't know that. I can only hope and sometimes hope is intangible.

Be careful with TP, they do non-consensual active rescue

 

[vitbar]

I've had a very different experience when opening up to professionals here in the UK. Even the times I've contacted helplines they've been useful. Not yet been locked up.

So far they have all been genuinely helpful. Admittedly I'm still trying treatment. I'm not sure I'd even contact them if I wasn't willing to try and find another way out.

 

[liljeep]

Be careful with TP, they do non-consensual active rescue

Ahh, I've never contacted them when I had the ability and almost full intent to do it. Have you heard any stories about it / experienced this? I figured it's why they ask for city and state and specifics like "where would you do it", "when would you do it", "how would you do it".