Discussion If you had a reliable fool proof method would you still be here?

[hihi2027]

The only reason I'm still here alive and unwell is because I have no method that will actually work. OD doesnt work, cutting is impossible due to SI, jumping could work but there's no place high enough and I don't think I'd the guts to do it anyway, hanging is too painful, and the rest are a combination of lack of accessibility, too much pain, overly drawn out or requires resources that are basically impossible to obtain. It's not like there's a button or switch anyone can press that will instantly end their life with no pain. I think the reason many of us are here is because we just don't have a relaible method. We are forced to suffer this awful existence :(

 

[Kokonoe]

no, i wouldn't be here. i just keep failing over and over. if i knew i wouldn't fail i would do it in a heartbeat.

 

[hihi2027]

no, i wouldn't be here. i just keep failing over and over. if i knew i wouldn't fail i would do it in a heartbeat.

Yeah, my worst fear is messing up an attempt and becoming disabled and ending up worse than I already am. The thing is that alot people on here are here because they suffer from physical or mental disability, so i feel even more ungrateful and want to ctb even more that I can't enjoy my life.

 

[dumpmeforgood]

Very obvious, I wouldn't be here commenting at all. I wish all of this was that easy.

 

[LRkin]

I don't think so, no. I would have ended it all earlier, I suppose. But, unfortunatelly, getting a gun in our part of the world is tricky, so I guess I'll have to wait.

 

[ctb_warrior]

The only reason I'm still here alive and unwell is because I have no method that will actually work. OD doesnt work, cutting is impossible due to SI, jumping could work but there's no place high enough and I don't think I'd the guts to do it anyway, hanging is too painful, and the rest are a combination of lack of accessibility, too much pain, overly drawn out or requires resources that are basically impossible to obtain. It's not like there's a button or switch anyone can press that will instantly end their life with no pain. I think the reason many of us are here is because we just don't have a relaible method. We are forced to suffer this awful existence :(

We are in the same shoes. I regret not going for sn method while it was easily available back in 2023.. it was hidden in plain sight. Now i don't have any accessible method

Yeah, my worst fear is messing up an attempt and becoming disabled and ending up worse than I already am. The thing is that alot people on here are here because they suffer from physical or mental disability, so i feel even more ungrateful and want to ctb even more that I can't enjoy my life.

Exactly. I too am very careful that none of my attempts ends up in a failed attempt that would cripple me and make my situation much worse than it's now, where i will not even be able to attempt ctb anymore.. So I'm taking my time instead of being hasty

 

[hihi2027]

Very obvious, I wouldn't be here commenting at all. I wish all of this was that easy.

Yah sorry if this seems like a pointless question to even bring up.

I don't think so, no. I would have ended it all earlier, I suppose. But, unfortunatelly, getting a gun in our part of the world is tricky, so I guess I'll have to wait.

Waiting is the worst part, tbh. I just want to end things NOW but the world isn't letting me. To much preparation plus waiting for right circumstance to pull off my plan. It's an arduous process.

Sorry if my reply seemed a little angry. I assure you that that anger was not directed towards you at all, but my current circumstance.

We are in the same shoes. I regret not going for sn method while it was easily available back in 2023.. it was hidden in plain sight. Now i don't have any accessible method

Exactly. I too am very careful that none of my attempts ends up in a failed attempt that would cripple me and make my situation much worse than it's now, where i will not even be able to attempt ctb anymore.. So I'm taking my time instead of being hasty

There actually might have been one time where I had a method that I could've used but I was too much of a coward to go for it. That was years ago and now i can't ctb. I have to wait.

I agree. Not having a method is not optimal but I still have to be careful. My chosen method is suicide via firearm which is the most powerful method (short of completely obliterating my body from a powerful explosive mortal kombat style). The only thing stopping me is arranging things. Getting the funds, finding a location, practicing handling the firearm, etc.

 

[booplesnoot34]

I'm still here for reasons and I have access to guns, so I guess that answers that. I am very curious about the SWB method. It seems suspiciously easy and painless and accessible by anyone. If it really works as well as it seems, theoretically that would mean every single one of us here has a viable method, as all it needs is lungs and water.

 

[LRkin]

Sorry if my reply seemed a little angry. I assure you that that anger was not directed towards you at all, but my current circumstance.

It's alright. I get it. Some things are justfrustrating. I assure you I don't see it as an offence

 

[hihi2027]

I'm still here for reasons and I have access to guns, so I guess that answers that. I am very curious about the SWB method. It seems suspiciously easy and painless and accessible by anyone. If it really works as well as it seems, theoretically that would mean every single one of us here has a viable method, as all it needs is lungs and water.

It sort of answers but I am curious about what keeps you going? Guns are the most "full proof" method, so to speak. I know that if I had a gun I would instantly end myself right here and now.

SWB? I'm sorry if this is an obvious question but could you explain what that is?

 

[N@te]

The only reason I'm still here alive and unwell is because I have no method that will actually work. OD doesnt work, cutting is impossible due to SI, jumping could work but there's no place high enough and I don't think I'd the guts to do it anyway, hanging is too painful, and the rest are a combination of lack of accessibility, too much pain, overly drawn out or requires resources that are basically impossible to obtain. It's not like there's a button or switch anyone can press that will instantly end their life with no pain. I think the reason many of us are here is because we just don't have a relaible method. We are forced to suffer this awful existence :(

yea, I've got some stuff I wanna do first

 

[booplesnoot34]

It sort of answers but I am curious about what keeps you going? Guns are the most "full proof" method, so to speak. I know that if I had a gun I would instantly end myself right here and now.

SWB? I'm sorry if this is an obvious question but could you explain what that is?

I have a family, and I promised my husband I wouldn't use his guns for CTB. I'd need to buy my own, and make sure he was away at work when I did it so he couldn't be accused of killing me. Tbh I'm afraid of jerking it at the last second and blowing off my face but surviving. I tend to struggle with recoil and shooting straight.

SWB = shallow water blackout. Basically, hyperventilating, holding breath, passing out in water, and drowning while unconscious. Hyperventilating significantly reduces how much time it takes to pass out from breath holding, allegedly enough to cause blackout before your brain remembers to force breathing. Apparently it happens sometimes by accident to divers and swimmers. There's a resource thread about it on here somewhere.

 

[Salkak]

I am in this situation too. Earlier when sn was available, I thought of giving life one more chance and now here I am stuck having no method and honestly a bit scared of doing it also. I am afraid of pain and failing. I can take the pain but the idea of failing and being disabled scares me

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Foolproof (full proof is not a word or a term, at least not in the English language). If I had a truly foolproof method, I'm pretty sure I'd be gone in the next few weeks. I have a plan A though and a plan B if that fails. I'm still considering obtaining a plan C, but one truly foolproof method would be better than a few methods that could possibly fail.

 

[hihi2027]

yea, I've got some stuff I wanna do first

Do you mind sharing what that stuff is? I thought there were things I wanted to do but they don't interest me anymore. I'm glad you at least have something to hold onto. Whether it lasts forever or just temporarily, I hope you can find some peace in life

I have a family, and I promised my husband I wouldn't use his guns for CTB. I'd need to buy my own, and make sure he was away at work when I did it so he couldn't be accused of killing me. Tbh I'm afraid of jerking it at the last second and blowing off my face but surviving. I tend to struggle with recoil and shooting straight.

SWB = shallow water blackout. Basically, hyperventilating, holding breath, passing out in water, and drowning while unconscious. Hyperventilating significantly reduces how much time it takes to pass out from breath holding, allegedly enough to cause blackout before your brain remembers to force breathing. Apparently it happens sometimes by accident to divers and swimmers. There's a resource thread about it on here somewhere.

I hope your family is a nice reason to stay alive for now, and that it's not a burden on ya. I think I wouldn't be able to resist killing myseld if I knew a firearm was readily available where I lived. My family isn't the best tbh, it's not a good enough reason for me. My fear is also messing up at the last minute and scarring or disabling myself for life and not even being able to attempt ctb anymore.

You know I think I have heard of that before but I didn't recognize the acronym. I don't know much about it myself but from what little I've researched, it seems like it requires a lot of preparation and training. Plus I imagine doing it with intent to ctb makes things a lot trickier.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I wouldn't be here

The only thing holding me up is i dont have a foolproof or 100% reliable suicide method , Or at least a 99.9% suicide method. I fear failing a DIY suicide method (with no real data info or stats )and remaining alive with even more damage

They made nembuttal, sarco suicide pod , assisting suicide and all guaranteed suicide methods into crimes : so they are the ones torturing us

for example let's say u have to fix something broken in ur car or toilet. there are many videos, websites ai u can use to help u fix it. any equipment and tools parts are readily available. it's still very difficult because u don't have experience. but u can also pay some expert to fix ur car or toilet. not in suicide

but in trying to get a suicide method ready there is no real information data and statistics. no one can help u. they censored all info, and restricted made into crimes all methods. so u have to do it in secret with no help no real data no real information. all these legal and social constraints they put into place to prohibit suicide and keep us in the prison

 

[PurpleMorality]

At this point in time, no, I would not be here. I just don't have any reliable methods available. My theoretical plan would be to use SN, I just don't know how to acquire it and currently don't have enough emotional bandwidth to comb through posts here to figure it out. I have everything else I would need tucked away, that's just the last (and most important) component. I have thought about trying to figure out if I have enough of my sleep meds for a lethal dose, but I just haven't looked into that enough yet, and I absolutely cannot afford to fail and end up in the hospital.

I don't have many real reasons to stick around these days. I always said I couldn't ctb before my senior dog died, because I was her Person; she died in June. My other two dogs would miss me, yes, but they are also strongly bonded to the rest of my household. I am finally, at least to myself, able to put the word "abuse" to the way my girlfriend treats me, even while understanding why she does treat me the way she does; so dying would be a way to escape that. I'm no longer in contact with my parents due to their continued homophobia and transphobia, my relationship with my sister is strained because she hates my girlfriend, and my "best friend" is so busy and non-communicative that I'm not even sure we're friends anymore. So, not much to stick around for, I just don't have a good method.

 

[AsexualBarbieBoy]

No, I would not be here. I failed at sodium nitrite before but I have acquired another batch and I think I will give it another shot.

 

[ctb_warrior]

Yah sorry if this seems like a pointless question to even bring up.


Waiting is the worst part, tbh. I just want to end things NOW but the world isn't letting me. To much preparation plus waiting for right circumstance to pull off my plan. It's an arduous process.

Sorry if my reply seemed a little angry. I assure you that that anger was not directed towards you at all, but my current circumstance.


There actually might have been one time where I had a method that I could've used but I was too much of a coward to go for it. That was years ago and now i can't ctb. I have to wait.

I agree. Not having a method is not optimal but I still have to be careful. My chosen method is suicide via firearm which is the most powerful method (short of completely obliterating my body from a powerful explosive mortal kombat style). The only thing stopping me is arranging things. Getting the funds, finding a location, practicing handling the firearm, etc.

Gun is a really crazy method to go. I would never have the guts to use fire arm at myself no matter how desperate I'm. I would doubt myself if I fire it at a wrong angle and mess the attempt landing me in a deeper mess. Make sure whenever you do, you do enough practice to be sure. As firing a gun recoils. A friend had fired a gun for fun, the recoil damaged her hands and it was bleeding profusely

 

[itsgone2]

Exactly. I too am very careful that none of my attempts ends up in a failed attempt that would cripple me and make my situation much worse than it's now, where i will not even be able to attempt ctb anymore.. So I'm taking my time instead of being hasty

I'm nervous about this. I screw things up a lot. I hate myself. A failed attempt to empty



Nm

 

[ctb_warrior]

Foolproof (full proof is not a word or a term, at least not in the English language). If I had a truly foolproof method, I'm pretty sure I'd be gone in the next few weeks. I have a plan A though and a plan B if that fails. I'm still considering obtaining a plan C, but one truly foolproof method would be better than a few methods that could possibly fail.

Damn, thanks for this info. I was always confused if it's full proof or fool proof. I was too lazy to Google this by myself.
Is there any one truly foolproof method?
I had swb in my mind but i don't have a water body but a friend here told me that it's possible to do in a bucket. But I'm doubtful if the bucket will fall down due to body weight because of loss of consciousness there's no way i would be able to control my position. If that happens, I'll be stuck in a brain damaged state. So, I'm not convinced enough