if we are going to go anyway shouldn't we join the ukraine conflict?

[user39]

think about it

 

[conflagration]

War is not peaceful way to go, you have chances to survive crippled and disfigured, and you are taking other people with you.
Only benefit I can see is that some (naive and brainwashed) people will see your act as virtuous.

 

[absolomonisgone]

Person has not understand what war is but know war is not you see in movies or they say on tv and news stories in internet as said above: naive think it is

 

[Yahwa]

We deserve to go in a peaceful manner after all we've been through. Why would we help in a war that shouldn't even be happening in the first place? I don't wanna have to kill someone before I go, so what would I go for? Stand there in plain sight to wait for someone to shoot me down, hoping it'll kill me instantly? And even if my country wanted to take part in the war, I wouldn't be able to join anyway because I'm mentally and physically unfit, so pretty pointless

 

[Challu]

Do what you want

 

[SilentSadness]

I don't see I have any obligation to fight in a war, besides it has nothing to do with me. This is suicide discussion not war discussion anyway.

 

[Scacie]

No. Whomever you're fighting against(be it russians or Ukrainians) in this war are all innocent. The Ukrainians are just defending their homeland against an aggressor, and whatever Russian soldier you kill will either be a poor prison convict sent on basically suicide missions or an innocent russian that's forced to fight in Putin's war by the draft. Its not particularly noble to kill basically any of these people imo. They are all innocent and none should be fighting each other in the first place. The real perpetrators of the war (Putin and his circle), are all dining with caviar and champagne in the kremlin right now

 

[maybemonday]

I actually looked into it last year. I don't think they want anymore people without experience. Also I'm disabled so I think that would make it difficult

 

[themethod]

Exactly as mentioned... im here to find the most sure proof, painless and that has the least negative impact on my loved ones method to make my exit when the time is right... not mess it up and make my life worse essentially! Although going to help Ukraine seems like an honourable thing to do we only know what the media telling us... yes I feel sorry for the innocent people but theres lots of politics involved we dont truly understand and its never as black and white as it seems. putting my loved ones through that and perhaps coming home in a state where i can longer make my own exit plan work doesnt appeal to me in the slightest!

 

[CentreMid]

Not a peaceful way to go. Joining the war is just bringing unwilling participants into your death, plus you'd be causing suffering to others in the process.

 

[Tartuffe]

The last thing I will do is fight for a country who has an army division with Nazi insignia, you go all you like, I fucking won't

 

[Archness]

Sometimes I think of something along these lines. If I can't find meaning in life, perhaps it's to be found in death.

I often wish I was some kind of warrior fighting and dying for a good cause. An enemy that's the embodiment of evil, that must be killed for... um, reasons, it'll make things better okay? Take scum with me to da grave.

Sadly, we live in the real world. I just wanted others to get what OP was thinking making the thread, as I understood to a certain extent.

 

[WorthlessCoward]

Dumb as that pasta about depression and being a mercenary in Africa

 

[Time&Regret]

If you're doing it for ideological purposes, then it would be maybe a good thing to you to serve a purpose before leaving, and if you lived through it then maybe it might change your perspective.

If you're doing it as a method then you would have to be down for the idea of going out guns blazing. That isn't a serene exit (which is what most of the members here want). But if that's how you wanna go out it's up to you. If you absolutely must have that better to take out combatants rather than innocent people.

 

[SentimentalTrip]

No. Wtf. I want to go peacefully. Why would I give up my life for Ukraine?

Also, why Ukraine? There are a million conflicts happening globally.

 

[54378]

Too scared of ending up like "Johnny Got His Gun".

 

[glitterypearls]

we don't want to die just to die, we want to go out peacefully, plus dying in a war where I might have killed someone's father, brother or son doesn't seem very peaceful to me, that's not even counting how your body would be messed around with, I seen so many videos where they rape female soldier after they were shot dead. I don't want my body to be disrespectful this way after I die.

 

[RichardFirst]

This is a forum where people come to escape the world. For the love of God, can we please keep contemporary politics out of it?

 

[Homo erectus]

Those elites, dictators and politicians who send people to wars are also those who mostly likely oppose euthanasia. They are the source of sufferings. They themselves are the least affected by sanctions, shooting and bombing. Ordinary people suffer the most. Why give the evils free army?

 

[grimreaped]

think about it

I actually thought about the same thing, but I realised that with my adhd, dyspraxia and anxiety, I would be more of a burden than an asset. If I am useless in peacetime, I don't know why I would be useful at war.

 

[BpdQueen]

no no, if i chose to go, i wont take anyone with me.
might as well go to war and just go in the field without a gun, just be a target.

 

[Sluggish_Slump]

there are people from both sides of the conflict who were supposed to be drafted to the army but chose to CTB to avoid it, I don't really think that getting killed in a battlefield is a peaceful way to go.

 

[absolomonisgone]

no no, if i chose to go, i wont take anyone with me.
might as well go to war and just go in the field without a gun, just be a target.

you don't get to decide in war..., war is not what they show you on tv or internet news. it's another side of human beings you never thought possible. war is raw that thing they call patriachial, men, etc thing...., a bad place to find yourself at. there it's raw and pure toxic masculinity..., in other words, raw violence.

 

[GasMonkey]

there are people from both sides of the conflict who were supposed to be drafted to the army but chose to CTB to avoid it, I don't really think that getting killed in a battlefield is a peaceful way to go.

Wunderkind was from Ukraine, I wonder if that was his case.

 

[young Werther]

I got this from Quora concerning the Iran Iraq war which lasted nearly all of the eighties:

"Iran's only significant advantage, in the beginning, was that Iran simply had more soldiers than Iraq had bullets. Young and devout loyalists of Khomeini would march into battle unarmed in human waves, to overwhelm the Iraqis and drain their ammunitions. Iranians as young as 13 even enlisted and were used to clear mines and destroy barbed wire with nothing more than their bodies"

Try some crazy, hazardous, potentially life improving medicinal/scientific experiment on me first something with some hope or meaning attached. Mine clearance seems way too cheap.

 

[absolomonisgone]

I got this from Quora concerning the Iran Iraq war which lasted nearly all of the eighties:

"Iran's only significant advantage, in the beginning, was that Iran simply had more soldiers than Iraq had bullets. Young and devout loyalists of Khomeini would march into battle unarmed in human waves, to overwhelm the Iraqis and drain their ammunitions. Iranians as young as 13 even enlisted and were used to clear mines and destroy barbed wire with nothing more than their bodies"

Try some crazy, hazardous, potentially life improving medicinal/scientific experiment on me first something with some hope or meaning attached. Mine clearance seems way too cheap.

i can tell you my friend... you dont and never want to find yourself in a war zone. at war, no laws, ethics, no nothing. it's all about death,destruction and more death and violence. you will understand patriachchy.
in war, they don't offer safe spaces, understanding, etc. it's raw men violence. no laws, rules, empathy, etc. only rule is survival. and to survive in a war zone, even ctb isn't an option because all dynamics and reality as you know it gets eroded.