If Suffering Animals are put to Sleep, Then Why can’t We?!

[S1mpleme]

In this world most people don't care about each other, even mothers throw their babies in garbage. Everyone lies, make money on health and lives. All these things not even a question to me anymore, I would even say understandable. To give everyone a pill that helps die easily means that government has less human resources. Who's going to pay taxes? How about army? Experiments with weapons and things on humans? The 1% need the 99% to be slaves.

 

[Mizzmini45]

yes, and that wage labor you mentioned affects so many millions of people. There are still many states in America where the minimum wage is around seven dollars an hour, and then after taxes it's about six dollars an hour take-home pay period with rents skyrocketing all over the place with no controls, more Americans are having to get two jobs, which makes them lose sleep which affects their health, their stress levels, and not just their Resilience going down, but when do they get to actually be around your family or their friends, or even just watch a movie? Life becomes all about constantly working so you avoid homelessness and to pay ridiculous amounts for everything including medical care, with constant pressure's. I don't think America is telling it like it is, if we were the greatest country on earth and why is it that so many people are suffering? why is crime out of control? People can't even let their children play in the front yard anymore and less they can buy their way into a very rich neighborhood. All of these factors add to peoples stress levels, including people here on the site. Even many people that are suicidal I have never even heard of this sites are likely affected. It also has a ripple effects on everyone as crime increases because people make bad decisions when they're desperate a lot of times, or a lot of people are getting angrier, and affects everyone on some Level eventually. Except for the very wealthy and the very Rich that have so much money that they can avoid the majority of what the rest of us have to deal with on a daily basis.

I totally agree and plus people didn't have children for love In the past it was for work. The same principle is applied to this. These businesses need labor, health care business needs sick people. If people were allowed to be put under who would do the work and get that $$ People=money.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

I wonder, if the baby was an accident or if one of the parents didn't want the baby, would that contribute to that once the baby grows up, he/she is suicidal? Or if the child grows up in a stressful environment? I think a lot of things start in the childhood, at least for me that's what's contributed to my depression and suicidal thoughts.

The brain is still in development during childhood. So childhood trauma can be a contributing factor in suicide.

 

[Mizzmini45]

In this world most people don't care about each other, even mothers throw their babies in garbage. Everyone lies, make money on health and lives. All these things not even a question to me anymore, I would even say understandable. To give everyone a pill that helps die easily means that government has less human resources. Who's going to pay taxes? How about army? Experiments with weapons and things on humans? The 1% need the 99% to be slaves.

Exactly right. See animals are put down easy because they don't see much "production " and value in them. Humans on the other hand are recources with value. They don't care about our life and suffering-they just care about what we produce for them. We all could be put under tomorrow if we held no value to this system, but we do that's why they make it so hard to die.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Exactly right. See animals are put down easy because they don't see much "production " and value. Humans on the other hand are recources with value. They don't care about our life. We all could be out under tomorrow if we held no value to this system, but we do that's why they make it so hard to die when in fact it could be so easy

Just because you have value doesn't necessarily mean they care about you(r) wellbeing.

 

[S1mpleme]

Exactly right. See animals are put down easy because they don't see much "production " and value in them. Humans on the other hand are recources with value. They don't care about our life. We all could be put under tomorrow if we held no value to this system, but we do that's why they make it so hard to die.

Animals have value, but they can't speak mostly. People also kill animals, and even if a dog sick and the owner wants to euthanize him, still nobody cares what the dog wants.

 

[purplemoon]

In this world most people don't care about each other, even mothers throw their babies in garbage. Everyone lies, make money on health and lives. All these things not even a question to me anymore, I would even say understandable. To give everyone a pill that helps die easily means that government has less human resources. Who's going to pay taxes? How about army? Experiments with weapons and things on humans? The 1% need the 99% to be slaves.

yes, and relevant to what you and some others are also mentioning and reflecting on here, how part of many peoples depression and suffering is part of a chain reaction from many who make decisions for how society is run. Are used to be a skeptic about this sub topic, but after journaling, making careful observations and comparisons, let's just say that if you skip past the first 10 redundant minutes of this FrankenSkies video, and watch the rest of it...

you will never be the same again. If you really want to wake up, then I would watch this video.

They also say that often times they've experimented on the populations with lithium, Mercury, and other drugs through Stratospheric aerosol injection,
affecting that can possibly affect people's moods, their health, and who knows what else.

They started out denying it, then they've even admitted it, it's all public information, but they count on the public to never bother looking it up. Well, i looked it up and so are more people. NASA even acknowledges spraying aluminum nano-particles that Are difficult for the human lungs to detox.

They also have a creepy law in the United States that allows the military to experiment on populations with bio chemical materials, as long as they classify it a certain way.
They are Referred to as Chemtrails...

 

[S1mpleme]

yes, and relevant to what you and some others are also mentioning and reflecting on here, how part of many peoples depression and suffering is part of a chain reaction from many who make decisions for how society is run. Are used to be a skeptic about this sub topic, but after journaling, making careful observations and comparisons, let's just say that if you skip past the first 10 redundant minutes of this FrankenSkies video, and watch the rest of it...

you will never be the same again. If you really want to wake up, then I would watch this video.

They also say that often times they've experimented on the populations with lithium, Mercury, and other drugs through Sstratospheric aerosol injection, affecting Supposedly, if it's really true, peoples moods, their health, and who knows what else.

They are Referred to as Chemtrails...

Yes, I've heard about it. I think the first time when I realized that I'm just co-owner of my life, when I found internet working on my computer even without cables and Wi-Fi, in a place where cell phone didn't work.

 

[purplemoon]

A lot of us have just been chasing a dream carrot on a stick our whole lives, with a lot of people doing the very best, becoming educated, working extremely hard all of their lives, just a still end up with what started out as the… Carrot on a stick, and never actually getting the carrot.


I don't know about you all, but it's one of many reasons why I want to catch the bus. I'm tired of playing their game, working until I'm almost sick, trying everything, and feeling like all of these lies and illusions that created these sweet and beautiful dreams that shattered, it's just too exhausting for me to accept anymore.

It also makes me sad for everyone here, and so many people all over the world Who do their very best making true and genuine efforts, to just come up with nothing because of the way the system is designed.

Wonderful human beings that are going to waste so that's a small percentage of the rich can have luxurious lives?!

Why are we expected to continue bearing the unbearable? Accepting the unacceptable? Why?

And who is benefiting from all of our labors?
Us??

 

[WhyIsLife56]

A lot of us have just been chasing a dream carrot on a stick our whole lives, with a lot of people doing the very best, becoming educated, working extremely hard all of their lives, just a still end up with what started out as the… Carrot on a stick, and never actually getting the carrot. I don't know about you all, but it's one of many reasons why I want to catch the bus. I'm tired of playing their game, working until I'm almost sick, trying everything, and feeling like all of these lies and illusions that created these sweet and beautiful dreams that shattered, it's just too exhausting for me too except anymore. It also makes me sad for everyone here, and so many people all over the world Who do their very best making true and genuine efforts, to just come up with nothing because of the way the system is designed. Wonderful human beings that are going to waste so that's a small percentage can have luxurious lives?!

Why are we expected to continue bearing the unbearable? Accepting the unacceptable? Why?

And who is benefiting from all of our labors?
Us??

The "optimism bias." Every person that enjoys their life has it. Deep down inside they are also lost and depressed people. It's a mask. They usually don't have the courage to end their lives. That's why they carry the mask their whole entire life until they die.

 

[purplemoon]

The "optimism bias." Every person that enjoys their life has it. Deep down inside they are also lost and depressed people. It's a mask. They usually don't have the courage to end their lives. That's why they carry the mask their whole entire life until they die.

Now that's truly having insight about the differences in thinking, kudos to you.

 

[Mizzmini45]

Animals have value, but they can't speak mostly. People also kill animals, and even if a dog sick and the owner wants to euthanize him, still nobody cares what the dog wants.

Definitely not NEARLY as much value as human production ,taxes, healthcare, wage labor . Not EVEN close

 

[S1mpleme]

A lot of us have just been chasing a dream carrot on a stick our whole lives, with a lot of people doing the very best, becoming educated, working extremely hard all of their lives, just a still end up with what started out as the… Carrot on a stick, and never actually getting the carrot.


I don't know about you all, but it's one of many reasons why I want to catch the bus. I'm tired of playing their game, working until I'm almost sick, trying everything, and feeling like all of these lies and illusions that created these sweet and beautiful dreams that shattered, it's just too exhausting for me to accept anymore.

It also makes me sad for everyone here, and so many people all over the world Who do their very best making true and genuine efforts, to just come up with nothing because of the way the system is designed.

Wonderful human beings that are going to waste so that's a small percentage of the rich can have luxurious lives?!

Why are we expected to continue bearing the unbearable? Accepting the unacceptable? Why?

And who is benefiting from all of our labors?
Us??

Life is insane, it is so complicated, such a mess. But death is fair, the same for everyone - the richest, the smartest, the strongest, the one who owns everything in this life on the same level with homeless.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Now that's truly having insight about the differences in thinking, kudos to you.

If you study people well enough you can see the mask as well as the cracks beneath the surface.

 

[Moonicide]

Because putting us to sleep means they lose money in the end. Keeping us ill and alive is what provides them with money and it's so corrupt. Imagine how much they would lose if they simply let us die? It's for their benefit, not ours.

 

[Dystopic_Momento]

OMG I needed that rant. Thank you.

The need to make people suffer is why people like David Icke think we're run by shape shifting inter-dimensional lizard aliens or why Alex Jones thinks our government worships the Devil and believes they must cause pain and horrific deaths in order to have their manifestation magic come true. It's easier than trying to figure out why people really are this mean. Well, unless Alex Jones really is right. It really would explain a lot.

It helps when you hear people who get it, like David Foster Wallace when he likened it to jumping out of a burning building, or Doug Stanhope who talks about giving his mom the best possible death with dignity (it's also in his book, but that's not a book you can recommend to people who aren't already fans). You can find his stuff on youtube if you don't have Amazon Prime.

"But life, being weary of these worldly bars,
Never lacks power to dismiss itself.
If I know this, know all the world besides,
That part of tyranny that I do bear
I can shake off at pleasure." -Shakespeare

If no one got it, it wouldn't be there - still being read or listened to. But when you hear someone talk about how it's the government's fault a farmer commits suicide but if a homeless person, who's already had everything stripped from them does it after a lifetime of having everythingtaken kills himself, it's "cowardly" or some other putdown. If someone kills themselves to not suffer the slow homicide that is homelessness, they're "selfish" or "mentally ill".

Our government has absolutely no problem slow killing us in a jail, with crime, with the worst possible healthcare, with bad pharma they know is killing us, with homelessness... They've got a series of bad laws, corrupt family/civil/social security courts, corrupt schools that don't help the disabled (IEPs anyone? The paperwork is too long, just stop the kid from getting help -which stops them from getting other aid because the proof of disability is how much help you already got or how many drugs you let doctors put you on) and colleges (OMG the horror stories on that one range from rape to purposely putting people to debt to..), corrupt doctors who hate the poor and don't do their jobs, corrupt psychiatrists who get paid to put us on medications that'll hurt us, corrupt medicaid companies and the SUPER corrupt AHCA who lets them get away with illegal things, corrupt medical ride systems that don't show up (and again with AHCA), places who promise help but are only referral services to other referral services etc until you've wasted an entire year and days on the phone and in paperwork only to get back to where you started)

They slow kill us, but they won't let us choose the faster way out. They add air to our helium tanks so we just become brain-damaged or brain-dead but live. They raid the places that sell the suicide masks to use with Nitrogen. They've been doing it since the days people were killing themselves with coal. They insist the things we're left with are going to be far more painful, last an average of 3-5 minutes of awareness, and with a risk of leaving us seriously maimed and worse off than before.

I'd rather believe David Icke than acknowledge our government and press and the people who help this system along are too stupid to call themselves evil.

TLDR: I'm sticking my head out the window and joining you with "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" You rock, OP.

 

[Green Destiny]

Oh I agree with you 100%. If every individual human being has the right to live, then shouldn't they also have the right to die when they so choose fit to do so? Be it for physical ailments and painful diseases or constant never ending mental problems that just may not be curable? No one can consent to being brought into this life and existence but we sure as hell should have the right to leave it if that's what we ultimately wan't.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

So true... Do you know where I can return this precious gift? Maybe get a refund?! LOL

Apparently "gift" means poison in German. That means life is poison

 

[TNDNBTG]

This reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw a couple of weeks ago that read, "all human life is sacred". The first thing I thought when I saw it was no it's not, that is a lie. I think our species put way too much value into it. I am certain religion also plays a major factor. To me we shouldnt give ourselves a higher regard than any other life on the planet. When we die life continues to go on, this is true for any other living species on earth. And life will continue on until this planet cannot sustain life or the next mass extinction occurs.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

This reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw a couple of weeks ago that read, "all human life is sacred". The first thing I thought when I saw it was no it's not, that is a lie. I think our species put way too much value into it. I am certain religion also plays a major factor. To me we shouldnt give ourselves a higher regard than any other life on the planet. When we die life continues to go on, this is true for any other living species on earth. And life will continue on until this planet cannot sustain life or the next mass extinction occurs.

It would be better if every life form ceased to exist--plants,animals, humans, even viruses. Existence as a concept should just disappear.

 

[TNDNBTG]

It would be better if every life form ceased to exist--plants,animals, humans, even viruses. Existence as a concept should just disappear.

This is exactly my sentiments for some time. This planet needs a reset/mass extinction. It is filled with self serverving parasitic humans that add zero value to it. I read, not too long ago, that we have (if I remember right) a 1 in 15000 chance of this. I dont know if they include the second coming into that equation though ;)

 

[WhyIsLife56]

This is exactly my sentiments for some time. This planet needs a reset/mass extinction. It is filled with self serverving parasitic humans that add zero value to it. I read, not too long ago, that we have (if I remember right) a 1 in 15000 chance of this. I dont know if they include the second coming into that equation though ;)

Probably not a reset. What ever other life forms exist will eventually suffer since then they'll have to survive and we all know surviving in itself is and can be a huge burden (maintaining the body etc).

 

[OneBigBlur]

Probably not a reset. What ever other life forms exist will eventually suffer since then they'll have to survive and we all know surviving in itself is and can be a huge burden (maintaining the body etc).

If there was a button to make every living thing in this universe sterile I'd already have pushed it.

 

[lymestolemylife]

OMG I needed that rant. Thank you.

The need to make people suffer is why people like David Icke think we're run by shape shifting inter-dimensional lizard aliens or why Alex Jones thinks our government worships the Devil and believes they must cause pain and horrific deaths in order to have their manifestation magic come true. It's easier than trying to figure out why people really are this mean. Well, unless Alex Jones really is right. It really would explain a lot.

It helps when you hear people who get it, like David Foster Wallace when he likened it to jumping out of a burning building, or Doug Stanhope who talks about giving his mom the best possible death with dignity (it's also in his book, but that's not a book you can recommend to people who aren't already fans). You can find his stuff on youtube if you don't have Amazon Prime.

"But life, being weary of these worldly bars,
Never lacks power to dismiss itself.
If I know this, know all the world besides,
That part of tyranny that I do bear
I can shake off at pleasure." -Shakespeare

If no one got it, it wouldn't be there - still being read or listened to. But when you hear someone talk about how it's the government's fault a farmer commits suicide but if a homeless person, who's already had everything stripped from them does it after a lifetime of having everythingtaken kills himself, it's "cowardly" or some other putdown. If someone kills themselves to not suffer the slow homicide that is homelessness, they're "selfish" or "mentally ill".

Our government has absolutely no problem slow killing us in a jail, with crime, with the worst possible healthcare, with bad pharma they know is killing us, with homelessness... They've got a series of bad laws, corrupt family/civil/social security courts, corrupt schools that don't help the disabled (IEPs anyone? The paperwork is too long, just stop the kid from getting help -which stops them from getting other aid because the proof of disability is how much help you already got or how many drugs you let doctors put you on) and colleges (OMG the horror stories on that one range from rape to purposely putting people to debt to..), corrupt doctors who hate the poor and don't do their jobs, corrupt psychiatrists who get paid to put us on medications that'll hurt us, corrupt medicaid companies and the SUPER corrupt AHCA who lets them get away with illegal things, corrupt medical ride systems that don't show up (and again with AHCA), places who promise help but are only referral services to other referral services etc until you've wasted an entire year and days on the phone and in paperwork only to get back to where you started)

They slow kill us, but they won't let us choose the faster way out. They add air to our helium tanks so we just become brain-damaged or brain-dead but live. They raid the places that sell the suicide masks to use with Nitrogen. They've been doing it since the days people were killing themselves with coal. They insist the things we're left with are going to be far more painful, last an average of 3-5 minutes of awareness, and with a risk of leaving us seriously maimed and worse off than before.

I'd rather believe David Icke than acknowledge our government and press and the people who help this system along are too stupid to call themselves evil.

TLDR: I'm sticking my head out the window and joining you with "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" You rock, OP.

I agree with you 100%. The system is so evil and they robbed my life from Lyme symptoms that first appeared after taking their vaccines, kept getting sicker and sicker and now the only relief I can get from my symptoms is thinking of suicide. They stole my life from me.

 

[purplemoon]

This reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw a couple of weeks ago that read, "all human life is sacred". The first thing I thought when I saw it was no it's not, that is a lie. I think our species put way too much value into it. I am certain religion also plays a major factor. To me we shouldnt give ourselves a higher regard than any other life on the planet. When we die life continues to go on, this is true for any other living species on earth. And life will continue on until this planet cannot sustain life or the next mass extinction occurs.

True, many humans create so much suffering across the planet, with disregard for decency or even mercy in many instances. it seems like of all the truly good, trustworthy people I've ever encountered, it feels like they are about 10% of all those I've ever known. At the most.

Thank goodness for them, but it seems that the empathic and decent people are more of the exception rather than the rule? It almost feels like a miracle when a good person is encountered, As if they (trustworthy kind humans) are endangered species as well.

and while yes, there are still plenty of not so great people going around claiming religious hypocrisy, I'm certainly not one of them.

I'm a Christian, but I don't blindly follow the Bible, or what other humans and churches have ever told me. I only go by my own personal spiritual experiences and my own personal relationship with God. Please don't lump me in a broad category with those that have created such disappointments. Besides, I don't like them either and they certainly don't represent me or my ethics. I've even had a few of them over the years tell me that I'm required to follow the Bible exactly, and I explain to them because of my personal experiences that are spiritual, I only believe about 70% of the Bible and i only obey God / Christ directly, not them, not what they think God wants. So not all Christians are the same.

In my opinion, God is God at the end of every day, regardless of how humans try to mistakenly define him or don't believe at all, etc. and everyone has a right to their own opinion and choice. I respect other people's rights and hope that mine will be respected as well.

Peace

This is exactly my sentiments for some time. This planet needs a reset/mass extinction. It is filled with self serverving parasitic humans that add zero value to it. I read, not too long ago, that we have (if I remember right) a 1 in 15000 chance of this. I dont know if they include the second coming into that equation though ;)

Evil runs amok out of control here, it's overwhelming and exhausting, i understand.

 

[Mercury6737]

A society needs human capital like a mechanical watch needs gears. There is simply no incentive for a government to facilitate the suicide of people, especially able-bodied people. From the day of conception, the goal is to make individuals contribute to the economic system, directly or indirectly.

 

[TNDNBTG]

Exactly. "Normally" functioning humans contribute to the economy and provide the much needed support through voting. Keeping them in power and wealthy.

 

[EndItQuickly]

Government can't collect taxes from an animal.

 

[Dystopic_Momento]

They don't care if you're able bodied. They'll still come at you if you're unable to work. Not just the disabled, but the elderly and jailed.

 

[HereToday]

I ask myself this all the time. What right does anyone else have to force me to live against my will? All people seem to care about is 'saving' you in the moment but are nowhere to be found afterwards