If Suffering Animals are put to Sleep, Then Why can’t We?!

[WhyIsLife56]

Demonstrations are happening around the world , people are fighting back against Governments , they are not submissive and take a stance against greed and corruption .

Every one has freedom of choice for self not for others , birth is a womans choice , it's not for others or governments to decide .
Religion is dying out because of all the controversies and corruption , pastors saying they need a plane to travel and the flock pays 50 million to buy a plane because the pastor doesn't want to sit next to someone else on a normal flight because they are demons LOL.
Everyone knows what's best for you yet they never take the time to discover the real you !

The taboo is still there though. People still see suicide and death negatively.

Demonstrations are happening around the world , people are fighting back against Governments , they are not submissive and take a stance against greed and corruption .

Every one has freedom of choice for self not for others , birth is a womans choice , it's not for others or governments to decide .
Religion is dying out because of all the controversies and corruption , pastors saying they need a plane to travel and the flock pays 50 million to buy a plane because the pastor doesn't want to sit next to someone else on a normal flight because they are demons LOL.
Everyone knows what's best for you yet they never take the time to discover the real you !

Birth isn't woman's choice. Think of the baby. The baby is not asking to be born.

 

[Skyview]

The taboo is still there though. People still see suicide and death negatively.

Yes they do and it's difficult for people to talk about it , the unknown ! They relate to their own lives and cannot understand why someone commits suicide . People laugh and joke about death until it comes for them then fear sets in.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Yes they do and it's difficult for people to talk about it , the unknown ! They relate to their own lives and cannot understand why someone commits suicide . People laugh and joke about death until it comes for them then fear sets in.

It would be better if they weren't born at all. If people weren't born, there would be no suffering. Giving birth is and should be immoral.
If you give birth, you could end up with a suicidal child. Being born when you didn't ask for it can make then suicidal. And people wonder why suicide is happening all around the world. They should ask that to themselves. They'll find the answer there.

 

[Skyview]

Birth isn't woman's choice. Think of the baby. The baby is not asking to be born.

Then who's choice is it , is this based on your own life ?
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It would be better if they weren't born at all. If people weren't born, there would be no suffering. Giving birth is and should be immoral.
If you give birth, you could end up with a suicidal child. Being born when you didn't ask for it can make then suicidal. And people wonder why suicide is happening all around the world. They should ask that to themselves. They'll find the answer there.

And what about the babies who have a great life , you are willing to deny them happiness ?

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Then who's choice is it , is this based on your own life ?

People who give birth aren't really thinking. If you did think hard enough, you wouldn't do it. It's harming the baby/child. Existence is suffering.
This is based on not just my life but everyone on this forum (well almost everyone) wants end their own life. The proof is on this website.

 

[purplemoon]

I completely agree with every point you make and you should write your book , hopefully it will waken others yet I won't hold my breath waiting for this to happen , if you say black they will say white , is it the fluoride in water supplies that's making people dumb ?

Thank you. Well they say all of the aluminum nano particles and flouride can just accumulate in people's brains and organs, maybe so.

 

[Skyview]

People who give birth aren't really thinking. If you did think hard enough, you wouldn't do it. It's harming the baby/child. Existence is suffering.
This is based on not just my life but everyone on this forum (well almost everyone) wants end their own life. The proof is on this website.

There is approx 7.8 billion people in the world , this site has 10,000 , statistically your point doesn't hold water !

 

[WhyIsLife56]

There is approx 7.8 billion people in the world , this site has 10,000 , statistically your point doesn't hold water !

I'm just going to leave this here.

 

[Skyview]

We talked about how governments control us and now you are basically siding with them , wishing to control other people's lives by saying they shouldn't have children . Life is about freedom , freedom of choice . I kinda understand what you're saying and people on this site wishing they were not born , the suffering , pain and anxiety , it's why we are here on this forum to help one another through research and ideas . we cannot turn the clock back therefore we make a conscious decision to exit to get away from the suffering .

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And what about the child who grows up and finds a cure so no one suffers ?

 

[WhyIsLife56]

We talked about how governments control us and now you are basically siding with them , wishing to control other people's lives by saying they shouldn't have children . Life is about freedom , freedom of choice . I kinda understand what you're saying and people on this site wishing they were not born , the suffering , pain and anxiety , it's why we are here on this forum to help one another through research and ideas . we cannot turn the clock back therefore we make a conscious decision to exit to get away from the suffering .

No one had a choice in their own birth or death. Once you're born, you have to go through death anyways. You have no choice once your born. The only "choice" is whether you end it yourself or wait until you "die of old age"
There's really not much freedom in that
Freedom is an illusion. Freedom from life is death.

 

[Skyview]

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No one had a choice in their own birth or death. Once you're born, you have to go through death anyways. You have no choice once your born. The only "choice" is whether you end it yourself or wait until you "die of old age"
There's really not much freedom in that
Freedom is an illusion. Freedom from life is death.

What's your thoughts on reincarnation ?

 

[WhyIsLife56]

We talked about how governments control us and now you are basically siding with them , wishing to control other people's lives by saying they shouldn't have children . Life is about freedom , freedom of choice . I kinda understand what you're saying and people on this site wishing they were not born , the suffering , pain and anxiety , it's why we are here on this forum to help one another through research and ideas . we cannot turn the clock back therefore we make a conscious decision to exit to get away from the suffering .

And what about the child who grows up and finds a cure so no one suffers ?

Is that really what you think will happen? That child will probably end up getting cancer and depression before that happens

 

[Skyview]

Is that really what you think will happen? That child will probably end up getting cancer and depression before that happens

No I don't know and neither do you , that's the whole point !

 

[WhyIsLife56]

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What's your thoughts on reincarnation ?

Reincarnation is a lie. There's no such thing. People made that up because people can't fathom non existence. They can't wrap their head around the concept of eternal non existence/nothingness. Humans can't wrap their head around it so make up concepts like reincarnation to comfort themselves.

 

[purplemoon]

I don't know that anyone needs to debate statistics or numbers, I don't claim to have all of the information from every person on the planet either, nor do I think anyone has to to make the strong point. Of course there are people that have wonderful lives and they are happy, but I think that is more of the exception rather than the rule.

It seems that even if it's just half of the human population, it's taking a dangerous gamble every time people have a child.

And if they're wrong, and their child ends up in that 50% approximate category of wishing they had never been born into this place,

I personally don't think it's worth the risk gambling with someone else's life. There's nothing wrong with having children, that's other people's business.

I'm not saying no one should ever reproduce ever again, but in a way that actually would be better for the innocent child's sake In my opinion. Then again Maybe it just depends on the individual parent circumstances. If they know their child will be loved and cared for very well, then maybe they should go ahead and have children. It's really difficult to say 100% either way, as all of these circumstances are so different with so many variables

I don't think it so much about who's wrong or who's right about this or that, I'm wondering if it's more about the gamble and the risk that people take when they have children. Especially if they don't have a good family to provide for that child, or if there is extreme poverty. Of course it's natural and beautiful to love your child. But it's not so beautiful To deny the reality that surrounds them and just decide for the child that somehow it will all magically work out, hopefully.
I think that's what my parents did with me, and while I can only speak for myself, I wish they never had. To me, it's like what on earth were you thinking? Why did you bring me into this chaotic unpredictable place where good and evil seem to battle it out? At least for me personally, to my parents...it's like why on earth did you think I would like it here?!


Anyway, I appreciate everyone's thoughts, and I hope that you all know I respect your feelings and opinions regardless. We don't have to agree on every single item or idea or concept... Hopefully it's more about trying to be kind to each other, sharing what we DO have in common.

I'm grateful for the sharing on here. Thank you to all.

 

[Skyview]

Reincarnation is a lie. There's no such thing. People made that up because people can't fathom non existence. They can't wrap their head around the concept of eternal non existence/nothingness. Humans can't wrap their head around it so make up concepts like reincarnation to comfort themselves.

Then prove to me it's a lie !

 

[WhyIsLife56]

No I don't know and neither do you , that's the whole point !

Once you're born, your guaranteed suffering. You're also gambling with another person's life. Whether the results are good are not, you're still gambling with their lives.

 

[Skyview]

Once you're born, your guaranteed suffering. You're also gambling with another person's life. Whether the results are good are not, you're still gambling with their lives.

Even in your wildest dreams it's not going to happen , thousands of years people have procreated because they enjoy intimacy . If you don't wish to bring a child into this world then fine , I'm sure there are many others with the same opinion .

 

[WhyIsLife56]

I don't know that anyone needs to debate statistics or numbers, I don't claim to have all of the information from every person on the planet either, nor do I think anyone has to to make the strong point. Of course there are people that have wonderful lives and they are happy, but I think that is more of the exception rather than the rule.

It seems that even if it's just half of the human population, it's taking a dangerous gamble every time people have a child.

And if they're wrong, and their child ends up in that 50% approximate category of wishing they had never been born into this place,

I personally don't think it's worth the risk gambling with someone else's life. There's nothing wrong with having children, that's other people's business.

I'm not saying no one should ever reproduce ever again, but in a way that actually would be better for the innocent child's sake In my opinion. Then again Maybe it just depends on the individual parent circumstances. If they know their child will be loved and cared for very well, then maybe they should go ahead and have children. It's really difficult to say 100% either way, as all of these circumstances are so different with so many variables

I don't think it so much about who's wrong or who's right about this or that, I'm wondering if it's more about the gamble and the risk that people take when they have children. Especially if they don't have a good family to provide for that child, or if there is extreme poverty. Of course it's natural and beautiful to love your child. But it's not so beautiful To deny the reality that surrounds them and just decide for the child that somehow it will all magically work out, hopefully.
I think that's what my parents did with me, and while I can only speak for myself, I wish they never had. To me, it's like what on earth were you thinking? Why did you bring me into this chaotic unpredictable place where good and evil seem to battle it out? At least for me personally, to my parents...it's like why on earth did you think I would like it here?!


Anyway, I appreciate everyone's thoughts, and I hope that you all know I respect your feelings and opinions regardless. We don't have to agree on every single item or idea or concept... Hopefully it's more about trying to be kind to each other, sharing what we DO have in common.

I'm grateful for the sharing on here. Thank you to all.

Simple. Existence is suffering. As long you exist, you'll suffer. Whether one is aware or not is up to them.

Peace xoxo

 

[Throwawaysoul]

Capitalism doesn't want human cogs leaving the system voluntarily. Work suffer repeat.

 

[Skyview]

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Simple. Existence is suffering. As long you exist, you'll suffer. Whether one is aware or not is up to them.

Peace xoxo

And you speak exclusively for the world's population ?

 

[purplemoon]

We are all here to share, and hopefully be kind to each other...

 

[WhyIsLife56]

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We are all here to share, and hopefully be kind to each other...

Cute kitties

 

[purplemoon]

Cute kitties

 

[chris8000]

I think their logic goes like this:

Human life is more valuable than an animal, therefore it must be protected in all circumstances, and we can only end it if it suits our need for acquiring further political power or we're on a self rightous crusade against evil. They don't openly tell people the last bit.

 

[R_N]

Because death is bad and life is good. Because sweet sweet taxes. Because greedy pharma.

Because slavery is real.

 

[purplemoon]

I've already posted this Wide Awake song on my profile, but it's just so perfectly fitting for this topic, at least the part about waking up to all of the illusions...

I think their logic goes like this:

Human life is more valuable than an animal, therefore it must be protected in all circumstances, and we can only end it if it suits our need for acquiring further political power or we're on a self rightous crusade against evil. They don't openly tell people the last bit.

or how about this brainwashing quote..."it's for the greater good"...

Or something like that, telling people that they should ignore red flags and just continue because it ends up benefiting some people at the expense of many innocent others?

Or how being watched and monitored by the government as it is seriously violating your sovereign rights should be allowed for x, y, z (plug in whatever goal)... when one has Nothing to do with the other!




https://m.youtube. com/watch?v=z0TqY8tpJuI

 

[Mizzmini45]

It's all about money, capitalism, wage labor, slavery.

 

[Cutepoison]

I wonder, if the baby was an accident or if one of the parents didn't want the baby, would that contribute to that once the baby grows up, he/she is suicidal? Or if the child grows up in a stressful environment? I think a lot of things start in the childhood, at least for me that's what's contributed to my depression and suicidal thoughts.

 

[purplemoon]

It's all about money, capitalism, wage labor, slavery.

yes, and that wage labor you mentioned affects so many millions of people, Potentially leading to increased or creating depression, anxiety with an invisible gun to peoples heads as they frequently have to be terrified of not being able to pay their rent and getting evicted and becoming homeless which is even more dangerous.

There are still many states in America where the minimum wage is around $7 an hour, and then after taxes it's about $6 an hour take-home pay.

With rents skyrocketing all over the place with no controls, more Americans are having to get 2 jobs, which makes them lose sleep which affects their health,

their stress levels, and not just their Resilience going down, but when do they get to actually be around your family or their friends, or even just watch a movie?

Life becomes all about constantly working like a machine so you avoid homelessness and pay ridiculous amounts for everything including medical care, food, with constant pressures.

I don't think America is telling it like it is, if we were the greatest country on earth then why is it that so many people are suffering?

why is crime out of control?
People can't even let their children play in the front yard anymore unless they can buy their way into a very rich neighborhood.

All of these factors add to people's stress levels, including people here on the site.
Even many people that are suicidal and have never even heard of this sites are likely affected.

It also has a ripple effects on everyone as crime increases because people make bad decisions when they're desperate a lot of times, or a lot of people are getting angrier, and affects everyone on some Level eventually.

Except for the very wealthy / rich that have so much money that they can avoid the majority of what the rest of us have to deal with on a daily basis.

and if you do a little research, you even discover strange, even shocking epiphanies about just how non-genuine a lot of things are, such as so many news anchors reading scripts across the entire nation. Don't believe me yet?

Well here's a brief example, and it's relevant because it ties into how there are so many illusions surrounding us, but many of us don't even realize or become aware of until much later.
These illusions keep much of the population in check, and many of us on here that have woken up, and are tired of hitting a brick wall when we try to get some kind of help, because people often have no idea of what realities we truly face all the time.

We/They are being spoonfed what they think is the truth or reality, so when the rest of us stand up and say we need more than these theories that you throw at us, or the people have a right to have a dignified death, have been so thoroughly brainwashed,
that they think these ideas and concepts are from their own mind, but it's just with their surrounded by day after day.



https://m.youtube. com/watch?v=eZVv2AOCnaA