First of all I'm sorry to hear about your medical condition.
You can't possibly know why the OP thinks that way. To say that affirming life equals 'mental stability' or 'mental health' or whatever is dogma, not fact. I do not regard psychopathology as science, not unless they can actually prove their contentions and not randomly decide certain symptoms are tied to a mysterous, unobservable 'mental illness'.
In my opinion people do not live because they are happy: they live because it's their nature to do so and their biology and psychology compels them. Optimism is hardwired into our brain but that does not mean that life is swell and everything is worth it in the end. Our mind plays tricks on us. The Polyanna-effect is well researched.
If we were rational creatures we would likely have died out by now. Most of our lives are spent staving off want and deprivation. We are vulnerable to all sorts of accidents, illnesses, losses and the malice of others. Our capacity for suffering is near infinite, our capacity for pleasure limited. Our existence has no real meaning other than what we randomly deem valuable. In the end we die, are forgotten and our lives will have meant exactly nothing.
Given these facts what did we gain by having been born? Goethe phrased this really well in his Faust:
"Since everything that comes into being is worth that it is destroyed it would be better if nothing existed."
Before you claim I'm depressed: philosophical pessimism has a long and rich history and many of the greatest minds professed to it. Unless they were all 'mentally ill' I think it's clear equating optimism with sanity or being 'mentally healthy' and the opposite with 'mental illness' is a modern social construct, not a conviction grounded in reality. During most of history suffering and death were regarded as the normal course of life and people were not obsessed with attaining the mythical state called 'happiness'.
You can't possibly know why the OP thinks that way. To say that affirming life equals 'mental stability' or 'mental health' or whatever is dogma, not fact. I do not regard psychopathology as science, not unless they can actually prove their contentions and not randomly decide certain symptoms are tied to a mysterous, unobservable 'mental illness'.
In my opinion people do not live because they are happy: they live because it's their nature to do so and their biology and psychology compels them. Optimism is hardwired into our brain but that does not mean that life is swell and everything is worth it in the end. Our mind plays tricks on us. The Polyanna-effect is well researched.
If we were rational creatures we would likely have died out by now. Most of our lives are spent staving off want and deprivation. We are vulnerable to all sorts of accidents, illnesses, losses and the malice of others. Our capacity for suffering is near infinite, our capacity for pleasure limited. Our existence has no real meaning other than what we randomly deem valuable. In the end we die, are forgotten and our lives will have meant exactly nothing.
Given these facts what did we gain by having been born? Goethe phrased this really well in his Faust:
"Since everything that comes into being is worth that it is destroyed it would be better if nothing existed."
Before you claim I'm depressed: philosophical pessimism has a long and rich history and many of the greatest minds professed to it. Unless they were all 'mentally ill' I think it's clear equating optimism with sanity or being 'mentally healthy' and the opposite with 'mental illness' is a modern social construct, not a conviction grounded in reality. During most of history suffering and death were regarded as the normal course of life and people were not obsessed with attaining the mythical state called 'happiness'.
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Rachel74
Enlightened
- Sep 7, 2019
- 1,716
Probably a lot more as with an easy option like that they can wait longer. Remember the majority of people that was to CTB are mentally and physically ill. They are not CTB on a whim.
Kodama
Experienced
- Oct 11, 2019
- 209
A person has the capacity to suffer but also to experience joy. It goes both ways. People who enjoy life do not want to die. Suffering might be the ultimate fate of all humans, but until then it is usually preceded by joy. The reasons, to make this "rational" is evolution. The species has evolved to produce mostly individuals that are happy and healthy enough to reproduce and raise children. Most people have completed their evolutionary task of breeding (and raising the children, important!) by the time they hit their 40s. At that point people start getting sick and sad because there have been no evolutionary pressures to select for healthy, happy old people.
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Sunset Limited
I believe in Sunset Limited
- Jul 29, 2019
- 1,245
It's complicated. The response of pro lifers after the first mass suicide is also important. In the first place, those who expect this gospel like us, press the button immediately. I think of it. Maybe billions of people wouldn't die in the first place. But if we assume that suicide is as easy as pushing a button, the majority will surely push it at a terrible moment in their life. The reason why suicide is considered a cursed phenomenon is culture. It's not learned and accepted. The Aztecs used to compete to sacrifice themselves. So to die. Culture> logic. As the number of suicides increases, it ceases to be taboo and normalizes. If you hear that 5-10 people commit suicide every day, this is no longer an anomaly for you. It even appears as an option.
This forces the owners of the money to take precautions. In order not to lose power and control, they are forced to take care of slave satisfaction. Somehow they have to balance. If suicide was too easy, then they would have to make concessions. They have to create satisfaction. I wish this was the case.
This forces the owners of the money to take precautions. In order not to lose power and control, they are forced to take care of slave satisfaction. Somehow they have to balance. If suicide was too easy, then they would have to make concessions. They have to create satisfaction. I wish this was the case.
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not4us
Experienced
- Sep 21, 2019
- 246
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