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tiredangelgirl

tiredangelgirl

i'm sorry i'm trying my best
Aug 1, 2022
76
If you had endless money and you didn't have to worry about paying bills, loans, etc or have to work a shitty job, would you still be in this mindset right now?

I know money doesn't solve all issues but it does solve a damn lot. Even if I was a billionaire and had depression, at least I could afford top notch care and the most effective treatments. My current therapy office isn't exactly the best, especially cause i'm limited to options near me due to my insurance. I think even just being able to afford better mental health services would help me tremendously. I was just curious if money seems to be a contributing factor to a lot of people on here.
 
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Unending

Enlightened
Nov 5, 2022
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I would give it a shot and see if things get better but I fear that my mind is made up. Unfortunately I feel in limbo as I can't overcome the guilt. Kind of a tricky spot. I think I'd probably still be on SaSu nonetheless.
 
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tiredangelgirl

tiredangelgirl

i'm sorry i'm trying my best
Aug 1, 2022
76
I would give it a shot and see if things get better but I fear that my mind is made up. Unfortunately I feel in limbo as I can't overcome the guilt. Kind of a tricky spot. I think I'd probably still be on SaSu nonetheless.
i'm curious what your reason is to ctb, mental health issues, trauma, just cause you don't like life lol etc? if you don't mind sharing of course. no worries if you don't want to :)
 
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AerialBoundaries

The Songs of Distant Earth.
Sep 18, 2022
426
Money isn't an issue and I'm still here. If it were an issue, I'd have hung myself long ago.
 
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jodes2

jodes2

Hello people ❤️
Aug 28, 2022
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It would help me about 30-40%. I'd probably still be bored and anxious. But at least then I could afford my own place, do drugs and doa few exciting things. I'd probably still struggle to make friends just as much. I don't think money can help many of my problems, but life would be better, to be fair. I dunno. There's a lot it wouldn't fix.
 
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WorthlessTrash

WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
2,430
Yes. My problem is I wasn't born the correct sex from the get go and no amount of money can take me back 30+ years and correct that.
 
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Unending

Enlightened
Nov 5, 2022
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i'm curious what your reason is to ctb, mental health issues, trauma, just cause you don't like life lol etc? if you don't mind sharing of course. no worries if you don't want to :)
I've been suffering with mental health issues and trauma since I was a young kid and it has just devolved over time. The last 4 or so years (something like that) have just really spiralled much further than I thought was ever going to happen.

My view on it has changed from "Oh, well I have severe mental health problems, this is horrible." to how I started to think after it getting worse and worse despite trying nearly all medical treatments which is more along the lines of "If life is capable of torturing somebody this much despite immense effort, I don't want anything to do with life and this it is a deceivingly sinister concept."

That's pretty much a vague summary of my situation.
 
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tiredangelgirl

tiredangelgirl

i'm sorry i'm trying my best
Aug 1, 2022
76
It would help me about 30-40%. I'd probably still be bored and anxious. But at least then I could afford my own place, do drugs and doa few exciting things. I'd probably still struggle to make friends just as much. I don't think money can help many of my problems, but life would be better, to be fair. I dunno. There's a lot it wouldn't fix.
all these answers are so wild and surprising to me. I really thought majority of people on here was because of money issues because that's 99.99% my issue. not to sound shallow or materialistic, but I can barely afford to live so I feel like I can't "make the cut" of being alive and functioning
Yes. My problem is I wasn't born the correct sex from the get go and no amount of money can take me back 30+ years and correct that.
do you think surgeries would help you feel more yourself?
my best friend is trans, and i've watched him go through a lot of life. I obviously don't know what that feeling is like and I never will in this lifetime. but he's one of my biggest role models and if you ever need to talk i'm here. I am very understanding and try my best to be open minded and kind
 
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jodes2

jodes2

Hello people ❤️
Aug 28, 2022
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all these answers are so wild and surprising to me. I really thought majority of people on here was because of money issues because that's 99.99% my issue. not to sound shallow or materialistic, but I can barely afford to live so I feel like I can't "make the cut" of being alive and functioning
I can understand where you're coming from. If I had to work, money would be more like 90% of my problem, but thankfully I'm on disability and it's vaguely comfortable. I have a roof over my head, and can afford to eat and have heating and have a bit of money and a lot of time left for myself. If I had to work it would have driven me over the edge by now, especially if I didn't have enough money for the basics. I'm glad I live in the UK I guess, they're pretty good on welfare, not that I have my own place, but still. If I lived in the USA for example I'd have offed myself a while back due to inability to survive not working. Don't worry, you're not being shallow or materialistic. Your basic needs aren't being met, clearly!!
 
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krxbs

krxbs

a bleeding heart </3
Jan 24, 2023
71
i'm with you OP, i don't think i'd struggle as much if i had lots of money. i'd be able to move away from all the awful people in my life, spoil my friends who deserve it, and pay for my counseling. i could fund my passions, not worry about sacrificing years of my life for a career i only care about to survive, etc... i think there are definitely lots of us who would have far less issues if we didn't struggle financially. i hope that you manage to find a way to solve your problems and land in a better spot, financially and emotionally.
 
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tiredangelgirl

tiredangelgirl

i'm sorry i'm trying my best
Aug 1, 2022
76
I've been suffering with mental health issues and trauma since I was a young kid and it has just devolved over time. The last 4 or so years (something like that) have just really spiralled much further than I thought was ever going to happen.

My view on it has changed from "Oh, well I have severe mental health problems, this is horrible." to how I started to think after it getting worse and worse despite trying nearly all medical treatments which is more along the lines of "If life is capable of torturing somebody this much despite immense effort, I don't want anything to do with life and this it is a deceivingly sinister concept."

That's pretty much a vague summary of my situation.
that makes a lot of sense sadly. I really do get it though. I feel that way now but I also think if I DID have endless money i'd probably have too many things to look forward too to actually ctb. like I would constantly plan vacations and go to see my favorite artists live etc I would just have so many things to do I wouldn't let myself ctb. at this point it feels like my mental health issues are crippling it drains me just to work a job to get by. I hope something wondrous happens to you and your mental health issues magically go away. and of thank you so much for sharing
 
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Unending

Enlightened
Nov 5, 2022
1,513
that makes a lot of sense sadly. I really do get it though. I feel that way now but I also think if I DID have endless money i'd probably have too many things to look forward too to actually ctb. like I would constantly plan vacations and go to see my favorite artists live etc I would just have so many things to do I wouldn't let myself ctb. at this point it feels like my mental health issues are crippling it drains me just to work a job to get by. I hope something wondrous happens to you and your mental health issues magically go away. and of thank you so much for sharing
Of course, thank you for your interest in my perspective. Also, I understand what you're saying as well. Despite my predictions on how a large sum of money would effect my life, I can imagine that there would be some good in pretty much getting to do whatever I want with my life. One things for sure, I'd be getting a nice house lol.

And yes, working with mental illness can be very horrid, I wish the best for you and your life experience as well.
 
hellispink

hellispink

poisonous
May 26, 2022
1,231
I would still be and I have zero doubts. I am messed up of the head. My mind is a sick and dark place to be. It doesn't matter where I run or be at, my demons will always come to hunt me down. Even if I was a billionaire, selfish and abusers wouldn't stop existing. This world is rotten and I would still be empty. Death is better than being empty.
 
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WhiteRabbit

WhiteRabbit

I'm late, i'm late. For a very important date.
Feb 12, 2019
1,728
Unlimited funds might keep me here longer, but since my main reason for wanting to die is incurable health issues, I'd still CTB eventually.
 
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emptybox

emptybox

Member
Nov 27, 2022
43
Money can't help me with my main problems, nothing can. It would make my life less stressful, but I wouldn't be able to use most of the opportunities it gives anyway. Still would prefer to have money without putting any effort into getting it though...
 
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lukas19

Specialist
Jan 17, 2023
345
I came into approx $200,000 but was having serious depressive bouts. Didn't help my mental health at all. Didn't feel like i deserved it, gave shit loads away as didnt feel like i deserved it and nothing i bought gave me joy. Having no money is depressing and a lot worse but money with no health is next to useless
 
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LastFlowers

LastFlowers

the haru that can read
Apr 27, 2019
2,170
If you had endless money and you didn't have to worry about paying bills, loans, etc or have to work a shitty job, would you still be in this mindset right now?

I know money doesn't solve all issues but it does solve a damn lot. Even if I was a billionaire and had depression, at least I could afford top notch care and the most effective treatments. My current therapy office isn't exactly the best, especially cause i'm limited to options near me due to my insurance. I think even just being able to afford better mental health services would help me tremendously. I was just curious if money seems to be a contributing factor to a lot of people on here.
I would likely still be here because my detriments, especially at this point, really aren't reversible, salvageable or fixable.

But even though suicide would still be inevitable, the money would be extremely helpful.
I would use it to take care of a lot of things that have been put on hold (as far as my preparations to ctb) and also to put things in place for the animals here, etc.
Would probably use it as leverage to make sure my requests were met too.
Money talks.

I would also use it to get out of my current environment, which still would not make life livable but at least I could run away from all these people and this place I cannot stand, so I could die elsewhere, in some manner of peace.
Joy and contentment can never be had in my position, misery is relentless…but money would make it a lot easier to dissociate, cut any remaining ties, and get the fuck out of dodge before I bite the bullet.
 
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WorthlessTrash

WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
2,430
all these answers are so wild and surprising to me. I really thought majority of people on here was because of money issues because that's 99.99% my issue. not to sound shallow or materialistic, but I can barely afford to live so I feel like I can't "make the cut" of being alive and functioning

do you think surgeries would help you feel more yourself?
my best friend is trans, and i've watched him go through a lot of life. I obviously don't know what that feeling is like and I never will in this lifetime. but he's one of my biggest role models and if you ever need to talk i'm here. I am very understanding and try my best to be open minded and kind
Absolutely not. I wanted to have been born as a female, gone through childhood and puberty as a female and young adulthood as a female. The ship has saled for that. I am very firm on CTBing.
 
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LastFlowers

LastFlowers

the haru that can read
Apr 27, 2019
2,170
all these answers are so wild and surprising to me. I really thought majority of people on here was because of money issues because that's 99.99% my issue. not to sound shallow or materialistic, but I can barely afford to live so I feel like I can't "make the cut" of being alive and functioning

do you think surgeries would help you feel more yourself?
my best friend is trans, and i've watched him go through a lot of life. I obviously don't know what that feeling is like and I never will in this lifetime. but he's one of my biggest role models and if you ever need to talk i'm here. I am very understanding and try my best to be open minded and kind
There is nothing shallow about being in need of society's major currency.
Don't feel materialistic.
Dire financial straits are nothing to scoff at, when there's no funds for basic needs or distractions from a living nightmare..money and the hunt for it takes precedence.
Either the other stuff takes a backseat for awhile (no matter how significant), or as someone else suggested..suicide happens even earlier than it may have.
Then you also have less pressing problems that money could solve.
It can open doors, it can give certain people (who already have others things in place) vast amounts of freedom and independence, peace of mind, security..
People are full of shit when they generalize and say that money can't solve your problems, because there are plenty of valid problems that a good amount of money can absolutely solve.
All problems? Of course not.
But a lot of problems? Yes.

As far as the surgeries you are suggesting to the other member..my guess is that no surgery can properly mimic the natural state that they desire. Not exactly. Not enough. And perhaps too many years of youth have been lost already.
(I could be wrong, but this is what I've heard and read others state. I can also relate myself, in a different way.)
It's the same for having appearance issues in general and turning toward cosmetic surgery.
Sometimes it works out for people..but to be frank, cosmetic and elective surgeries run an astronomical risk of being botched, appearing "off", making the person look worse, being rife with complications and dreaded "trade-offs", etc.
They are not the panacea for gripes with one's looks (or even gender expression) that the industry makes them out to be.
(This should not be a controversial observation, but sometimes it is.)
They are not a guaranteed solution with the result of finally being able to feel comfortable in your own skin nor finally being able to move through the social sphere with ease.
Winning the "genetic lottery" is a massive privilege for a reason.
Nothing quite compares.

There is nothing wrong with desiring change or even pursuing these surgeries but patients in those spaces have no rights, even the best surgeons will leave you to rot if you're unsatisfied and there will be nothing you can do about it..it's still taboo, shame silences people, and others are very very unkind to those who have had these types of surgeries and then end up in a position where they need emotional support afterward.
Especially if the surgery didn't go well..or perhaps was unnecessary to begin with (surgeons make bank off your suffering).
The "professionals" are not held responsible.
They will not care.
A lot of people commit suicide because of these surgeries, whereas others will end their lives for being barred from them.
It could go either way.
Even so, we have a long way to go before the benefits drastically outweigh the risks.
The field is nowhere near as advanced as it needs to be.

Very good of you to remain open minded about the topic though, that is certainly helpful to those around you who may find themselves in a position that warrants the possibility of that sort of surgery (or similar).
 
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TapeMachine

TapeMachine

perpetually confused
Jan 12, 2023
411
Well, I'm not sure. One of my biggest problems is my complete lack of ambition.

I spent my 20s running as far away from myself as possible. Then in my 30s, I've devoted much of my time on self-speculation, feverishly attempting to solve the evasive mystery of "what the fuck is wrong with me; how do I fix it?"

But I'm tired of trying to salvage my life. I'm all out of ambition. I know what my biggest problems are, but there aren't ways to fix most of them. I'd just have to keep coping the best I can, same as I've done my whole life.

While money isn't a huge issue at the present moment, it inevitably will be in the future. Because people who lack ambition (and also come from poor families)... Look, I tried to try harder, but I'm exhausted, and my brain is one hell of a force to battle every day. Unlimited money would help, but it wouldn't solve everything.
 
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blackroseRM

blackroseRM

Member
Jan 22, 2023
31
If I had unlimited or near unlimited funds, I probably would not be here. I'd be able to live by myself and be out of my abusive housing situation in a place of my choosing, I'd have the ability to socialize and not be in complete isolation, I could afford food that doesn't make me ill, participate in the hobbies I've been missing out on with the people I care about, get the medical care I so desperately need.. I can't say that everything would be "fixed" but I'll say I have 99,000 problems and money is basically the root of all of them.
 
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WorthlessTrash

WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
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@LastFlowers more or less hit the nail on the head. Being born in the right body and being female is mostly a self image thing for me. I do not like my body at all and I do not like scarring (which would inevitably happen if I chose to to GRS). Then there's the issue of not being able to pass 150% of the time. When I look in the mirror, I want to see a person whom is physically a woman starring back at me. If I do not pass that well, even to myself, I don't get that.

Then there's the issue of it taking 5+ years. I'll be in my 40s by the time it happens, which is the age period I'd still CTB even if I was born the right sex from the get go. Aging doesn't appeal to me and since I would have already missed out on the better years of my life, there's no point.
 
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LastFlowers

the haru that can read
Apr 27, 2019
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@LastFlowers more or less hit the nail on the head. Being born in the right body and being female is mostly a self image thing for me. I do not like my body at all and I do not like scarring (which would inevitably happen if I chose to to GRS). Then there's the issue of not being able to pass 150% of the time. When I look in the mirror, I want to see a person whom is physically a woman starring back at me. If I do not pass that well, even to myself, I don't get that.

Then there's the issue of it taking 5+ years. I'll be in my 40s by the time it happens, which is the age period I'd still CTB even if I was born the right sex from the get go. Aging doesn't appeal to me and since I would have already missed out on the better years of my life, there's no point.
Glad I didn't overstep in the wrong direction, but so sorry again for your predicament.
Those are all valid concerns.
(As you know, I am not exactly in the same position, but I sympathize greatly because of the other position that I am in.)
I only saw your second response after I wrote out my own assumptions..because I take so long typing lol.
 
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LaVieEnRose

LaVieEnRose

Angelic
Jul 23, 2022
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Even if I could earn a modest income independently I might not be here, let alone have the gazillions your scenario posits. At least having financial independence of whatever magnitude gives you certain options, which many people who complain about bring "wage slaves" seem to fail to realize aren't accessible to everyone...

Anyway it's still impossible to say for sure because oftentimes the answers on paper don't prove to be so in practice.
 
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DukeDestroyer

DukeDestroyer

I HATE YOU!
Feb 1, 2023
68
Money would make me stay here a little longer. But it does nothing to solve the main problems in my life, which is autism and the way peo treat others that are different.
 
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deadlymongrel

deadlymongrel

Forget Me Not
Jan 24, 2023
11
Money isn't an issue and I'm still here. Modern life is a nonstop hell full of people who would rather take care of themselves before other people. The world is and always has been cruel and selfish.
 
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Kurushii

Kurushii

Student
Jan 14, 2023
137
If money wasn't an issue I would get a nice place in the snow in a good location with the night sky full of stars. I wouldn't have to worry about work which is a big reason why I want to ctb. If I had all that and was still bored with life, I think I would still want to ctb. I find life to be so boring and unfulfilling. I don't want to do anything here.

If I didn't have to worry about money then yes it would help a lot, but in the end I'm not sure it would be enough to make me want to live. Maybe it would though. I'm not entirely sure. I would probably still be on this site because there isn't anywhere else I can talk about my feelings safely.
 
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avoid_slow_death

avoid_slow_death

Ready to embrace the peaceful bliss of the void.
Feb 4, 2020
1,356
Because my life was fucked up wayyyy before I could properly process the adult world. Money would very likely make me more reckless and a lot more prone to an "accidental" death. Plus all the leeches that would inevitably want some of it would turn me into a viciously mean person. No thanks. Have enough issues as is. I'm on this site because there are people here that give a fuck about things other than materialism. And please, don't tell me I think otherwise because I don't. I could give a fuck less if I mange to continue to save or not. Be nice to have a bit of fun first, but if go before I can, fuck it. Will give what I have to someone in need. I sure won't need it if I am dead.
 
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lionetta12

Just a random person
Aug 5, 2022
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If you had endless money and you didn't have to worry about paying bills, loans, etc or have to work a shitty job, would you still be in this mindset right now?

I know money doesn't solve all issues but it does solve a damn lot. Even if I was a billionaire and had depression, at least I could afford top notch care and the most effective treatments. My current therapy office isn't exactly the best, especially cause i'm limited to options near me due to my insurance. I think even just being able to afford better mental health services would help me tremendously. I was just curious if money seems to be a contributing factor to a lot of people on here.
Money is not an issue for me and I'm still on this site. I've experienced both poverty and comfortable living in my life and I felt just as miserable and suicidal in both situations.
 
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HermitLonerGuy

HermitLonerGuy

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Sep 28, 2022
707
if i had money id probably be dead since i could afford to buy a gun or N or something.
 
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