If I hear “Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem” one more time I am out of here

[emgrl]

I doubt they would think that, since Socrates also committed suicide. lol

They should teach that in school

 

[lifeORdeath]

I had a psych tell me that one time.
Sees all minndof permanently f'd up people all time and told me that.
Wth?

 

[makethepainstop]

They think they are the shit. So smart, so wise. They're pieces of shit instead.

They sure as hell don't have a clue about the pain we are in 24/7.

 

[Julgran]

Who do these people think they are, Socretes, Plato? Wow yes very clever. Fucking unbearable man.

We could also twist this statement around a bit.

Our problems are temporary as far as our life expectancy goes, which means that our problems will die with us, and this is why we find this solution attractive, since it's permanent

 

[makethepainstop]

We could also twist this statement around a bit.

Our problems are temporary as far as our life expectancy goes, which means that our problems will die with us, and this is why we find this solution attractive, since it's permanent

I love the way you think!

 

[Callie Arcale]

I've been ill more or less all my life. My guess is I was born with or aquired very early on a virus or an infection that wrecked my system.

I have been severely ill for many decades and now bedbound for the past years.

My problems are not temporary. They are chronic. Permanent. As long as I breathe, I suffer.

 

[Nikki2020]

life will get better. its only temporary. they have no fking idea how much I am suffering.

 

[Enoughnow]

Agreed
My " temporary problem " of significant mental health problems has been non stop my whole adult life
I've had suicide ideation for the last almost 20years it's a permanent problem for me

 

[ClownMe]

 

[chaosandquiet]

I've been ill more or less all my life. My guess is I was born with or aquired very early on a virus or an infection that wrecked my system.

I have been severely ill for many decades and now bedbound for the past years.

My problems are not temporary. They are chronic. Permanent. As long as I breathe, I suffer.

I'm so sorry for your suffering. I understand having chronic, lifelong conditions which are not terminal but will cause me pain all my life. This is why I so strongly support medical aid in dying for non-terminal cases.

 

[DonTellMeToStayAlive]

If a "mental health professional" ever rattles off some cliche like that, the patient should reply, "You're getting paid good money for advice I could get on a cocktail napkin?". OK, I stole that from the original 1970's Bob Newhart Show, an American TV comedy.

My psychiatrist used to say cliches.. i tried to reason with him about my side of the story, and show the problem with his advice, but he wasn't cooperating.. and it soon became clear to me that the money I am spending on his appointments is just not worth what I am getting i return. So I stopped going to him lol

 

[Zegers]

In some cases this sentence is right, ie if you have problems at school its a temporary problem, if your partner has split up with you its a temporary problem etc In some cases i can understand this sentence, i try to empatize with every human perception as well. But if your life has been in ruins since you were a child and years later its the same or if you dont have a family, suffer a disease, chronic poverty, definitely some things are not a temporary problem.

But what can they say? they try to find an explanation why so many people leave.

Centuries ago it was religion that tried to control individual freedom, in modern times mass media and large corporations do it.

A few days ago i read that a doctor said that suicide is the act of an impulsive person and that its not a free decision because its conditioned by his altered state of mind, i do not agree with that, suicide is usually something pondered.

About pro-life individuals, i have nothing against, each person has their own point of view and if they do not see suicide as an option its not my problem, it will be theirs when they have serious problems and nothing prepared for it.

 

[earshurt]

I hate this phrase, because my chronic pain is a VERY fucking permanent problem.

 

[Hirokami]

Yes, technically every problem is temporary if we're all going to die, anyhow. It's just I don't necessarily want to wait until I'm 80+ for my problems to sort themselves out.

Though, even if every problem were "temporary", not every problem gets resolved in like a week or something. Sometimes the "temporary" problems can take a decade or more to be resolved. Who wants to suffer for that long?

 

[Sad_Sack]

I've been i

I've been ill more or less all my life. My guess is I was born with or aquired very early on a virus or an infection that wrecked my system.

I have been severely ill for many decades and now bedbound for the past years.

My problems are not temporary. They are chronic. Permanent. As long as I breathe, I suffer.

I'm sorry you had this happen. I am in a similar boat with my health issues coming out of nowhere 30 years ago and were compounded by psych meds and prednisone and imuran. This is not temporary. It's torture and robbery. The medical industry owes me at least a clean death for failing me and making things horribly worse for years. I absolutely hate them.

 

[Callie Arcale]

I've been i

I'm sorry you had this happen. I am in a similar boat with my health issues coming out of nowhere 30 years ago and were compounded by psych meds and prednisone and imuran. This is not temporary. It's torture and robbery. The medical industry owes me at least a clean death for failing me and making things horribly worse for years. I absolutely hate them.

Considering the insane amount of money that is wasted on chronically ill patients who want to die, it is truly mind-boggling that the right to a peaceful exist is not legal.

Save your millions and let us die in peace!

 

[Sad_Sack]

Considering the insane amount of money that are wasted on chronically ill patients who want to die, it is truly mind-boggling that the right to a peaceful exist is not legal.

Save your millions and let us die in peace!

Money that is spent on chronically ill people goes to the medical industry. They don't want us in peace. They want us alive and sick for the doctor visits, and ER visits, and tests, and above all else medications. We are like killing cows to them. A constant source of cash as long as we are alive.

 

[Callie Arcale]

Money that is spent on chronically ill people goes to the medical industry. They don't want us in peace. They want us alive and sick for the doctor visits, and ER visits, and tests, and above all else medications. We are like killing cows to them. A constant source of cash as long as we are alive.

I bet I bought someone at Pfizer a boat, and I don't even know about it.

Enjoy it, buddy, you've earned it

 

[Cantbereal]

I'm so sorry for your suffering. I understand having chronic, lifelong conditions which are not terminal but will cause me pain all my life. This is why I so strongly support medical aid in dying for non-terminal cases.

Not just terminal. Some suffer more without that label. I suffer everyday with invisible and undiagnosed illnesses too many. I'm withering away i'm 101 lb today. Was 180. We need to have the right. I put my dog down here wasn't anywhere near suffering like me.

 

[Doom]

thats why suicide is good

 

[another@]

I doubt they would think that, since Socrates also committed suicide. lol

Many people say "we're past history" without knowing history. This is to say, don't be surprised. Ask someone whether history class is important, it's a useful red flag detector.

 

[Meaninglessness]

Suicide isn´t a permanent solution to a tempary problem for all people. This depends on the situation you are in. People are lying and telling untruths.

 

[Superdeterminist]

This too shall pass? No, this may never pass.

 

[beingfree]

When in reality, suicide is a temporary solution to a permanent problem.
Suffering is a fucking constant in life and CTB stands for cut the bullshit.
Only problem is that not even eternal non-existence is guaranteed.

A fuckin cosmic joke it is, ain't it, mate.

 

[HermitLonerGuy]

life itself is a temporary problem.

 

[Lotus]

This sentence dismisses everything that you are struggling with, I cannot stand it either.

 

[Seiko]

It's just one of the many mantras people use to pretend they care.

 

[chocolatebar]

Everything is permanent, because we can't change our past. We can't unlive our traumas or live what we missed. Many health issues are permanent, aging is permanent. In fact, I wonder what temporary problems people talk about when they use this phrase.

I doubt they would think that, since Socrates also committed suicide. lol

The entire society they lived in had different views on suicide. Our collective view on it was shaped by christianism during the middle ages.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Everything is permanent, because we can't change our past. We can't unlive our traumas or live what we missed. Many health issues are permanent, aging is permanent. In fact, I wonder what temporary problems people talk about when they use this phrase.

They mean that you're not going to live with these issues forever because you won't live forever, so you may as well make the best of life.

 

[Prescott241]

I don't get this. If suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, am I supposed to have a sudden change of heart? Do they want us to use temporary solutions for temporary problems? If so, then they really don't want us to solve our problems in the first place, rather, they would rather have us place metaphorical bandaids on our problems and never solve their root cause. For me, the root cause to all my problems is the conditions in which I exist. A permanent solution is not a bad thing like they think it is.