If Drug Overdose work, then why even Drug using people choosing another options to die?

[Wants-To-End]

In Google it says that, "Just 3 mg of Fentanyl [or] 30-150 MG OF Heroine [or] 500mg of Morphine" is Lethal (they all less than 1g of substance)
But I am seeing that even Drug using people, not opting this way to end their life, Why is that?

i am not sure are they available in capsule form or not, in movies i have seen people inhale it via a pipe - which means, it is impossible to inhale that much lethal dose? (will it react suddenly or will it take 5 - 10 mins)?
can't it be taken by mouth?

Particularly The most potent one "Fentanyl", is cheaper then other 2, I guess?

 

[Forever Sleep]

Mainly I guess because it's illegal. Also- most sources are likely to be black market- dark web or on the streets- so you wouldn't know the purity of what you were getting. I imagine dealers don't typically want to sell amounts they know can kill. They likely want people to regularly buy small amounts and become addicted. Yes- you could buy and save it up but then- there's a greater chance of getting caught. I'm not sure how easy it is to get the required amount into your system without passing out. People do die accidentally of course- it's just a whole lot of risk though.

Still- yeah- it sounds as if it could be a peaceful way to go. If it wasn't illegal- I'd definitely consider it over other methods. Just depends on how much risk you are willing to take in life/ death I guess.

 

[sulli]

despite being a drug user (formerly) i'd known enough people who survived ODs with extensive brain damage to put me off the idea. getting it wrong could just lead to more suffering

 

[josephk]

despite being a drug user (formerly) i'd known enough people who survived ODs with extensive brain damage to put me off the idea. getting it wrong could just lead to more suffering

ive wondered before why Kurt Cobain blew his brains out when he had access to huge amounts of Heroin. Maybe what youve just said is the answer

 

[Wants-To-End]

despite being a drug user (formerly) i'd known enough people who survived ODs with extensive brain damage to put me off the idea. getting it wrong could just lead to more suffering

Really thanks for reply sulli

But, i am not asking this to make you to feel uneasy, but kindly asking just on curiosity, what happened to them, what kind a brine damage?

 

[looking_for_peace]

In Google it says that, "Just 3 mg of Fentanyl [or] 30-150 MG OF Heroine [or] 500mg of Morphine" is Lethal (they all less than 1g of substance)
But I am seeing that even Drug using people, not opting this way to end their life, Why is that?

i am not sure are they available in capsule form or not, in movies i have seen people inhale it via a pipe - which means, it is impossible to inhale that much lethal dose? (will it react suddenly or will it take 5 - 10 mins)?
can't it be taken by mouth?

Particularly The most potent one "Fentanyl", is cheaper then other 2, I guess?

difficult to obtain I would guess, and the risk of getting caught (either by authorities or family) puts a lot of people off. also yeah, risk of failure is high for the majority of drugs people commonly attempt with.

 

[sulli]

Really thanks for reply sulli

But, i am not asking this to make you to feel uneasy, but kindly asking just on curiosity, what happened to them, what kind a brine damage?

a friend of mine from elementary school (yes, we were around 13 when this happened) took months to learn his own name again after his OD, much longer to read and write it. he still has chronic seizures to this day, last i heard.

another lives in a group home for the disabled as a result of the damage. his OD was after we'd graduated high school. i ran into him when his group came to an event at my trade school and his speech was slurred to near incoherence, taking forever to get through a single sentence.

my brother... he just kinda went insane after his. made inappropriate advances on me. hurt all of his family members enough that even our mom won't take him in anymore. he lives under a bridge.

 

[Wants-To-End]

a friend of mine from elementary school (yes, we were around 13 when this happened) took months to learn his own name again after his OD, much longer to read and write it. he still has chronic seizures to this day, last i heard.

another lives in a group home for the disabled as a result of the damage. his OD was after we'd graduated high school. i ran into him when his group came to an event at my trade school and his speech was slurred to near incoherence, taking forever to get through a single sentence.

my brother... he just kinda went insane after his. made inappropriate advances on me. hurt all of his family members enough that even our mom won't take him in anymore. he lives under a bridge.

Scary enough girl, i got it

Thanks really for ur kind reply

 

[Cathy Ames]

But I am seeing that even Drug using people, not opting this way to end their life, Why is that?

Where are you seeing this? I assure you, there are some number of "drug-using people" who attempt suicide via overdose. They may not be common on this web site, but they do exist. [Also there are some on this web site.]

 

[Wants-To-End]

[Also there are some on this web site.]

hoooo, okay

 

[ThisIsLife]

- Because they've built tolerance, which means they would need a lot more than the usual lethal dose to succeed.
- Because it's very easy to cancel the effects in the body with a Narcan injection if/when they're found.
- Because if they fail, depending on which drug(s) they took, it can lead to organ (sometimes the brain) damage.
- Because it also depends on purity, that most of drug users don't check with test kits. Also, some drugs can be laced with fentanyl (or other potent chemicals) for example. That's one of the examples why a part of od's are accidental.
- The delivery is also something to factor in. Transdermal patches have a lot more chances to kill because they deliver the drug very fast in the blood, and they can be heated for faster delivery in the bloodstream. Very few drug users can (legally or not) have access to those.
- Not all drug users want to die and not all non drug users want to die that way, because not all overdoses have the same outcome. Some can be very peacefull and the person will "die in his/her sleep", some can be violent and last long enough to be hell. But generally speaking, an overdose doesn't take 30 seconds to kill, unlike most Hollywood movies make it look like.
Depending on the drug used and how it has been taken, it can take multiple hours and that's a window of time that allows to be rescued, bearing in mind that the later you are saved, the more chances there are you will be fucked when you wake up, because of the damages.

Having said that, my son od'd months ago from a little more than 1G (between 1G and 1,4G) of morphine and i'm almost sure he didn't suffer and died "in his sleep". So even though i chose another peacefull method to CTB, if i had to choose which drug i'd use to go on the other side, it would probably be that one.

 

[Wants-To-End]

Having said that, my son od'd months ago from a little more than 1G (between 1G and 1,4G) of morphine and i'm almost sure he didn't suffer and died "in his sleep". So even though i chose another peacefull method to CTB, if i had to choose which drug i'd use to go on the other side, it would probably be that one.

I mean for what medical problem morphine will be given? - Only for pain relief? or even for Stress relief? - If it is prescribed for Stress relief, may be it is possible to get a prescription from any psychiatrist ?

It is the only way seems more peaceful to die to me, But it is the way that have the most unimaginably scary Side effects if we accidentally rescued inbetween

 

[One day too late]

Mainly I guess because it's illegal. Also- most sources are likely to be black market- dark web or on the streets- so you wouldn't know the purity of what you were getting. I imagine dealers don't typically want to sell amounts they know can kill. They likely want people to regularly buy small amounts and become addicted. Yes- you could buy and save it up but then- there's a greater chance of getting caught. I'm not sure how easy it is to get the required amount into your system without passing out. People do die accidentally of course- it's just a whole lot of risk though.

Still- yeah- it sounds as if it could be a peaceful way to go. If it wasn't illegal- I'd definitely consider it over other methods. Just depends on how much risk you are willing to take in life/ death I guess.

It's also cause dealers don't people to die because it can be traced back to them. I read an article where someone overdosed from cocaine cause it was laced with fentanyl and the cops was able to trace it back to the dealer. They set up a sting where an undercover bought from the dealer. The cocaine the dealer sold to the cop didn't had fentanyl in it. The dealer didn't know the cocaine that was sold to the person who overdosed, had fentanyl in it because it wasn't tested before it was sold.