I would not be surprised if Kanye West comitted suicide soon

[noname223]

The Kanye West story is probably for many people kind of entertaining. And I would lie if I did not admit they had some entertaining elements also for me like many scandals in the media. First everyone probably has the gut feeling yeah he kind of deserves to get punished (losing contracts, money etc.) if he seemingly admires Hitler(!??) His stance on Jews was horrible and has to be condemned. I absolutely condemn his stance on jews.

However this man is severely ill. I have bipolar too and without medication in my opinion this illness cannot be controlled. Seemingly he stopped to take them. In the past he admitted suicidal thoughts and addiction problems. He probably has currently a manic epsisode with psychotic symptoms. When someone is delusional one has barely control over him or herself. I think one cannot really judge this man at least not with the usual standards. I am glad I never do such insane stuff when I am psychotic. But some people are completely unhinged. Some people endanger themselves and other people during psychosis.

But then there often comes the crash. The time when they realize they were delsuional. The deep regret and shame. I mean I almost killed myself during that period. And in my case barely anyone really noticed it. (I still felt extremely ashamed.) I don't want to know how much worse this crash must hurt when people from all over the world make fun of you. I don't know much about Kanye and I do not really like him. But seemingly he suffered a lot because of his break-up with Kim Kardashian. I could imagine this contributed to his new episode.

He ruined his whole business. He shits on people who are genuine and who want to help him. It is a tragedy. Like a car crash in slowmotion. Horrible to watch but hard to look away. (not sure if this makes sense in English.)

I don't really have a solution. In my opinon someone should help him to get the right medication to cool down. The damage is already extreme. He needs help as soon as possible.

 

[Someone123]

I really think he'll be fine- it's easier to ride out storms when you have huge money and still lots of support from people. It'e weird when he makes antisemitic comments and people immediately go to- he must be mentally ill, when for most people who would make comments like these the conclusion would be that they are racist. So far it seems that he is being defiantly racist, not mentally ill. If he is mentally ill I hope he gets help, and you can make a case that racism is a form of mental illness I think, so each person should have their actions assessed as an individual.

 

[onlyanimalsaregood]

I totally agree with you. Like, I've never been a Kanye fan nor have I ever had anything against him (despite his awful recent actions and claims), but the way people and the media are dealing with this is horrible. It's public knowledge that he is bipolar and obviously he isn't well. But people are simply mean and take advantage of everything for their own entertainment. He definitely needs help and instead it's sad to see how he is being ridiculize and make fun of.

 

[whatevs]

Damn, there's at least one thing now that I like about Kanye West.

 

[willitpass]

I feel the same way about Pete Davidson. He's admitted to being chronically suicidal and has had public breakdowns. i would not be surprised to wake up to news of his suicide one day

 

[Superdeterminist]

I wouldn't think so. He has an extreme christian mind, and those people are typically allergic to suicide. There's a very good chance that he is, based on his ramblings on the sanctity of life and being made in god's image, etc. He also spoke about being grateful for his life which is a line often heard from the anti-suicidal.

 

[Someone123]

I totally agree with you. Like, I've never been a Kanye fan nor have I ever had anything against him (despite his awful recent actions and claims), but the way people and the media are dealing with this is horrible. It's public knowledge that he is bipolar and obviously he isn't well. But people are simply mean and take advantage of everything for their own entertainment. He definitely needs help and instead it's sad to see how he is being ridiculize and make fun of.

What indication is there that he is bipolar or mentally ill in any way? He is consistently making racist comments and this just makes the case that he is racist. You could say that being racist is mentally ill, but nobody else in the publis eye gets this treatment- if people make racist comments in general they are labelled as racist, not as mentally ill. Why is Kanye getting this special treatment- because he is a well-known celebrity? When Mel Gibson made racist comments againast Jewish people he was labelled a racist((and rightfully so)- nobody said that he was mentally ill. Why is Kanye getting this special treatment when his comments are very similar to Mel Gibson's?

 

[Disappointered]

His xian comments make it unlikely that he's suicidal but even without them I wouldn't have thought of him being suicidal. He doesn't seem especially perturbed by the dictates of Ari Emmanuel ordering a bunch of companies to drop him.

Ye now joins the "most infamous" club along with Harold Cruse, Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farakhan, Dieudonné and many more. I guess they must be crazed lunatics if they made racist comments. They didn't though. They noticed the recurring phenomenon of jews-behaving-badly and were consequently labeled as "antisemites" which is not the same thing as racist. The list of notable people being "antisemitic" is surprisingly long, whether among blacks or not. There really are quite a lot of "crazed lunatics". Ye seems to find it odd that jews are not only disproportionally represented in media (so, not even just Hollywood) but that even in raw numbers they make up the majority of controlling positions. It seems he found that the jews around him were not really his friends and now he's wondering why so many similar people populate his industry. One almost hopes for his sake that he doesn't find out about Blackrock. Mel Gibson said jews are behind every war or something like that. When he looks at the 'project for a new american century', the people who make up biden's gov't and the straussien neo-cons past and present, he must have a lot of questions indeed. So many "irrational" people out there. This world really is a cesspool...from whichever vantage point you find yourself looking.

 

[Lawliet]

being mentally ill is not an excuse for being a racist and an antisemite. He's a really terrible person, and I would be shocked if he killed himself because his ego is so massive. He might accidentally overdose on drugs. and if he does, good riddance.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

He does not seem sad or bereft . He seems confident and vital if muddled.

 

[Someone123]

He has been quite clear about his antisemitism, which is clearly racist, but some people keep making excuses for him- like mental illness- when nothing about it seems like mental illness. He apologizes under pressure, not because he wants to, and then he goes right back to antisemitism.

 

[Ligottian]

He'll kill Kim and her boyfriend first.

 

[akirat9]

being mentally ill is not an excuse for being a racist and an antisemite. He's a really terrible person, and I would be shocked if he killed himself because his ego is so massive. He might accidentally overdose on drugs. and if he does, good riddance.

I see. suicide does make people happy

 

[almaranthine]

What indication is there that he is bipolar or mentally ill in any way? He is consistently making racist comments and this just makes the case that he is racist. You could say that being racist is mentally ill, but nobody else in the publis eye gets this treatment- if people make racist comments in general they are labelled as racist, not as mentally ill. Why is Kanye getting this special treatment- because he is a well-known celebrity? When Mel Gibson made racist comments againast Jewish people he was labelled a racist((and rightfully so)- nobody said that he was mentally ill. Why is Kanye getting this special treatment when his comments are very similar to Mel Gibson's?

He definitely has made it public that he is bipolar, even calling it his "superpower" lol. There's loads of references to it in his music about having episodes, being off his meds etc.

 

[Someone123]

He definitely has made it public that he is bipolar, even calling it his "superpower" lol. There's loads of references to it in his music about having episodes, being off his meds etc.

OK, I did not know that, but this does not explain his racist comments.

 

[noname223]

OK, I did not know that, but this does not explain his racist comments.

It kind of does. He has bipolar with psychotic symptoms as far as I see it. Many people with psychosis tend to conspiracy theories. I don't say all cospiracy theorist were mentally ill though.
When I was psychotic and delusional I also thought people were bullying me. My past trauamta shaped in certain ways my delusional content. But not fully. You cannot really choose the content of your paranoid thoughts. He clearly has this evil jews paranoia. He cannot really change that despite taking his medication.

Personally his behavior seems to be very pathological and he cannot be reached by logic or arguments anymore. This is why debating him on this topic probably won't solve the issues. Maybe afterwards when the acute episode ended.

 

[almaranthine]

OK, I did not know that, but this does not explain his racist comments.

Oh yeah I wasn't about to comment on that haha I have no idea. There's conspiracy theories out there about "the Jews" controlling the world/media and stuff. Maybe that's what he's on about. Idk though I don't care enough to look into the history of his problematic posts and try to figure it out. I'm baffled by an earlier comment saying he idolizes Hitler though? Wtf where did that come from? Also, just playing devil's advocate here, claiming that the world is run by the Jews, the media is biased because of them, that they're behind wars etc isn't inherently racist if that's what he believes. It's some conspiracy-minded shit, sure, but it's not attacking literally every one of that race, just the corrupt people in power right? I don't think he's advocating ww2 level genocide... idk though, really didn't word his tweet very well lmao.

 

[Someone123]

Oh yeah I wasn't about to comment on that haha I have no idea. There's conspiracy theories out there about "the Jews" controlling the world/media and stuff. Maybe that's what he's on about. Idk though I don't care enough to look into the history of his problematic posts and try to figure it out. I'm baffled by an earlier comment saying he idolizes Hitler though? Wtf where did that come from? Also, just playing devil's advocate here, claiming that the world is run by the Jews, the media is biased because of them, that they're behind wars etc isn't inherently racist if that's what he believes. It's some conspiracy-minded shit, sure, but it's not attacking literally every one of that race, just the corrupt people in power right? I don't think he's advocating ww2 level genocide... idk though, really didn't word his tweet very well lmao.

People from his inner circle say he really wanted to name his latest album hitler but they just barely talked him out of it. If he believes crazy racist stuff that there is no evidence for it seems racist to me.

 

[almaranthine]

People from his inner circle say he really wanted to name his latest album hitler but they just barely talked him out of it. If he believes crazy racist stuff that there is no evidence for it seems racist to me.

Wow that's fkn nuts. I haven't listened to his music for the last few years and honestly didn't realize he became this publicly unhinged.

 

[Life_and_Death]

Like a car crash in slowmotion. Horrible to watch but hard to look away. (not sure if this makes sense in English.)

theres a song called Car Crash so it makes perfect sense

(Car Crash - Three Days Grace)
I came along for the ride
Went wicked with the clutch
Happened so fast and it hurt so much
You're a car crash
And I can't look away

 

[Disappointered]

Ye is clearly more lucid than the vast majority of people. Most people take orders (whether explicit or implicit) about what to believe and how weigh and treat information. Since he came to understand that those around him were pretending to be his friends in order to use him in the pursuit of other goals, he stopped following those orders. Whatever happens to him, at least he will not die as a slave - which is more than can be said for most people.

 

[Maudlin]

I think the man is not a bit suicidal and is entitled to whatever opinion he wants to have, and knows it.

It doesn't matter how butthurt people want to be about it, it's a free country to everybody who doesn't want to punish people for their opinion.

You ever read any of the Talmud? They're entitled to some pretty unsavory opinions, too OP.

Live and let live.

 

[SamTam33]

I don't follow him that closely so I don't know all the details but I find it telling that he didn't suffer much monetary backlash (losing deals) when he was ranting and raving about black people choosing to be enslaved and claiming they could've escaped if they really wanted to.

Yet when he says something far less inflammatory and far more truthful about Jewish people, all hell breaks lose.

 

[Mtnwildflowers]

It kind of does. He has bipolar with psychotic symptoms as far as I see it. Many people with psychosis tend to conspiracy theories. I don't say all cospiracy theorist were mentally ill though.
When I was psychotic and delusional I also thought people were bullying me. My past trauamta shaped in certain ways my delusional content. But not fully. You cannot really choose the content of your paranoid thoughts. He clearly has this evil jews paranoia. He cannot really change that despite taking his medication.

Personally his behavior seems to be very pathological and he cannot be reached by logic or arguments anymore. This is why debating him on this topic probably won't solve the issues. Maybe afterwards when the acute episode ended.

You said he cannot chnage this despite taking his medication. How do you know he is taking medication? If anything, he has blatantly seemed to denounce medication anytime I've heard him reference in the past but can't say I've kept up with him. The main medications for bipolar with psychotic features would be antipsychotics to help with paranoid thoughts so I'm confused when you say "despite taking medication". Like yes some peoples psychosis is harder to treat and can take many med trials but Kanye seems to denounce meds for bipolar in general from my understanding. I mean all of us with bipolar, including myself, have to live with the consequences of our actions whether medicated or not. Also that is often motivation for some to stay medicated..to potentially reduce the life destruction while at the same time often accepting there's no "cure".

 

[Sad_Sack]

I know he took lexapro as he said " you've never seen a n@#$%& so crazy as me when I don't take my Lexapro." I don't know if he is still taking it but anytime antidepressants are in play at all the suicide risk goes through the roof. Some people can come off no problem and some people don't feel they have been changed by them but there is a huge amount of people who get wrecked by these things. The meds eventually poop out on you even if you have had a good reaction to them for one thing, and then usually you come off of it either to switch to a new one or to just be rid of something you feel isn't working anymore. At this point withdrawal can hit and some people can't recover. My point is the odds of Kanye having a suicidal event is increased greatly because of medication.

 

[BipolarExpress]

I know he took lexapro as he said " you've never seen a n@#$%& so crazy as me when I don't take my Lexapro." I don't know if he is still taking it but anytime antidepressants are in play at all the suicide risk goes through the roof. Some people can come off no problem and some people don't feel they have been changed by them but there is a huge amount of people who get wrecked by these things. The meds eventually poop out on you even if you have had a good reaction to them for one thing, and then usually you come off of it either to switch to a new one or to just be rid of something you feel isn't working anymore. At this point withdrawal can hit and some people can't recover. My point is the odds of Kanye having a suicidal event is increased greatly because of medication.

On top of that, Lexapro is an SSRI, which can cause manic episodes when people with bipolar take them. If he ends up with a mixed episode, in which he has the high energy of mania but the suicidal thoughts of depression, he could end up causing himself serious damage.