- May 4, 2018
Do you really think it's a good idea to have a child when you're planning on killing yourself? I feel like the obvious answer is to not spread your genes.I want to spread my genes but I am real afraid of wanting to stay and teach the kid and be there for him therefore preventing me from committing suicide. Is there a strong instinct to not kill yourself for the kid parents?
I want to spread my genes but I am real afraid of wanting to stay and teach the kid and be there for him therefore preventing me from committing suicide. Is there a strong instinct to not kill yourself for the kid parents?
This is gonna to sound a little harsh, but if even a fraction of you genuinely wants to die or plans on killing yourself, then I despise you if you choose to reproduce.I want to spread my genes but I am real afraid of wanting to stay and teach the kid and be there for him therefore preventing me from committing suicide. Is there a strong instinct to not kill yourself for the kid parents?
i'm antinatalist too. i find it paradoxical to want to spread your genes while wanting to extinguish the current existing arrangement of your genes.I'm antinatalist so no and with being suicidal is a big no.
this makes me think of my mother who was in the habit of saying that she hopes she dies before she gets old and feeble. she'd also muse on the subject of how death must be peaceful and it's too bad we are not in a better world (implying heaven). she would say this stuff often and it was sort of part of her character. growing up i could see loud and clear that she wasn't really into life. she's extremely sensitive and got lucky marrying my dad because he ran the front lines and took all the hits for her and she got to hide in the house and not participate in the world. i would say that she was depressed much of the time. oh, but she had me. WHY? i swear that i've inherited her predilection toward wanting to not exist. so yah, a little resentful and living proof that someone not into life should not reproduce.This is gonna to sound a little harsh, but if even a fraction of you genuinely wants to die or plans on killing yourself, then I despise you if you choose to reproduce.
First of all, so much mental illness & related shit is genetic. Why would you risk passing that onto someone else if you can't even deal with it yourself? Secondly, how can you begin to believe you can be a healthy role model & parent to your child if you aren't completely committed to staying the course and doing everything in your power to give them a happy life and a fighting chance? And thirdly, the world is already so crammed with suffering and overpopulation. If you can't hack it and be happy here, what makes you think it's fair to impose this all on somebody else who doesn't get a say in it? Just because you want to "spread your genes?" Give me a fucking break.
Existence is non-consensual. There's no justifiable reason to bring another life into this place if you're not planning on being here for them down the road.
ion900 i like your posts because you are honest and energetic but i just can't agree with this. please read my comment in here in reply to SleepItOff's comment. i'm not saying you're planning on it, but it's painful to see people have kids with the hope that they will then be compelled to live or that they will find some sort of joie de vivre that they lack. that makes the kid a marked man, basically. he/she would come into the world with some heavy expectations already piled onto him/her.
It is a foolish goal, either way. Everyone is forgotten sooner or later. Thousand of years from now, not even someone like Hitler might be remembered anymore (assuming humankind still exists by then).We need to make bearable the existence of who's already there, and we have missed the mark from the very beginning.
Seriously, if somebody wants to be remembered or leave a legacy, just write a book/song/publish a videogame or whatever.
i agree that expectations should be set for the kid to live up to, accompanied by loving behavior. but having a child when you are someone who doesn't want to live and/or you have no hobbies or passions except the kid seems pretty unethical to me. the kid is going to pick up on the fact that you have no desire to be here (you can't hide this stuff from a kid--they know on some level and don't even know they know until maybe they realize it later in life). and in the case of having no hobbies or passions (i.e. having your own life and things other than the kid that you live for), the kid is going to be messed up because it should not be THE focus of your life. i'm just saying that a kid should be brought into a context that is healthy--where there is a will to live outside the world you created with the kid. i always felt claustrophobic with my mother because i knew she wasn't really interested in anything but me.From my experience kids do better when there are expectations set by the parents. It does depend but the kid feeling loved helps them understand the expectations are there to assist. In the case that the parents cannot love themselves enough to give to the kid, then I could see how that is not good. A lot of folks on here might not feel the positivity of life but there are so many families with a tradition of spreading good will and positive energy. I think the traditional european family is more consistently like this. American culture has been poisoned by occult negative energy in movies and pop culture. I think learning a a european language and moving there would help people see a new side of life. America is not the best in a few ways. I heard russia and countries near there have more traditional gender roles (more feminine females and more masculine males) and that probably helps everyone fit in more. Also self hypnotizing to see the world more opportunistically could help. It is essentially being very persuasive to yourself. Also I think people could learn something from the flat earth universe channel. Thinking differently helps people break away from the idea planted in our heads that consumerism levels define us. Confidence, purpose and our energy define us in my opinion.
ive noticed. and im not disagreeing, just wondering because people are commenting on it like it was posted yesterday and the OP is going to read it, which they clearly arent unless theyre still alive and have been viewing the site all these years without logging in.I like browsing years old threads, sometimes I find comedy gold like this.
And your response was probably why it popped up in “What’s new” and the rest of us thought it was a new thread obviously-at least I did- pretty self-explanatory, or at least it should be to most people..I like browsing years old threads, sometimes I find comedy gold like this.
ive noticed. and im not disagreeing, just wondering because people are commenting on it like it was posted yesterday and the OP is going to read it, which they clearly arent unless theyre still alive and have been viewing the site all these years without logging in.