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SmallKoy

SmallKoy

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I have a poor relationship with my parents, quite poor. It's never been easy. Both my parents are/were alcoholics. My mom much worse than my dad. I don't know if I love my parents or not, I think I probably do not love my mom considering the emotional abuse she has out me through. My dad is a more complicated situation. However, I feel like my dad is going to pass away soon, it's given me so much anxiety. Both my uncle and my grandfather on his side died around this age (more or less) due to heart problems. I do not want to bear the emotional pain of him dying. I want to die before he dies so that I don't have to be there when he dies. Does anyone else feel that way? Do you want to die before your parents?
 
SmallKoy

SmallKoy

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can i ask why do you want to die ? Im also going through a dark period thats why im curious
I've never really "wanted" to be alive. It's more so, that I do not want to exist entirely. I have crippling anxiety and depression. I have much anxiety about the future and having to "grow up" so to speak. I'm worried about pretty much everything in my life. It's terrible. I have constant guilt for my existence.

Why do you want to die (if I may ask)?
 
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spody

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Apr 21, 2024
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You are right growing up is tough. Existing is indeed cruel. This world is really painful. Like we just live just to one day die. I can understand why you dont want to exist. I wish i didnt exist either. Having depression and anxiety is tough right ? I have depression and social anxiety. Also why do you feel guilt ?

For me i just am tired to living. Like you i just want to stop existing it. I hate this world. Thats why i wanna die.
 
SmallKoy

SmallKoy

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You are right growing up is tough. Existing is indeed cruel. This world is really painful. Like we just live just to one day die. I can understand why you dont want to exist. I wish i didnt exist either. Having depression and anxiety is tough right ? I have depression and social anxiety. Also why do you feel guilt ?

For me i just am tired to living. Like you i just want to stop existing it. I hate this world. Thats why i wanna die.
I feel guilt for pretty much everything. My existence makes me feel guilty. I'm not really sure why. And yeah, having depression and anxiety sucks. My anxiety worsens my depression.
 
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spody

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Do you feel like you don't deserve to exist ? It does indeed suck to have depression. Its hard right getting out of bed everyday ?
 
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Do you feel like you don't deserve to exist ? It does indeed suck to have depression. Its hard right getting out of bed everyday ?
I don't feel like I deserve to exist but at the same time I don't want to exist. And yeah, it's really hard to get out of bed everyday. Also makes graduating from uni hard.
 
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I'm the same as you, though I want to die before both my parents because I won't be able to handle the emotional pain of dying and I won't want to (especially living the rest of my life without them, knowing they are gone). They are my rocks and my comfort through tough times and the only people who really give a fuck about me. I've realized this after multiple friends replaced me with "upgrade" friends as if I didn't spend night after night staying up with them until 3am just to be their sounding board and support and try to talk them off the ledge when they were suffering. So yeah. I don't really have the "live for your friends!" safety line that other people do. I need my parents' love.

Everyone says grief is one of the most excruciating pains and trauma we will ever go through and it never ends so idk why normies act like it's so out of pocket to feel this way. I get everyone goes through it but everyone goes through aging and dying anyway and those aren't great either.
 
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I don't feel like I deserve to exist but at the same time I don't want to exist. And yeah, it's really hard to get out of bed everyday. Also makes graduating from uni hard.
Yea i know right it fr can be tough to get out of bed but you still manage to right ? What pushes you to ?
 
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DefinitelyReady

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I have a poor relationship with my parents, quite poor. It's never been easy. Both my parents are/were alcoholics. My mom much worse than my dad. I don't know if I love my parents or not, I think I probably do not love my mom considering the emotional abuse she has out me through. My dad is a more complicated situation. However, I feel like my dad is going to pass away soon, it's given me so much anxiety. Both my uncle and my grandfather on his side died around this age (more or less) due to heart problems. I do not want to bear the emotional pain of him dying. I want to die before he dies so that I don't have to be there when he dies. Does anyone else feel that way? Do you want to die before your parents?
My mom redeemed herself after she drank for about 10yrs of my childhood. Sorry yours didnt. So we were able to repair our relationship. I couldnt bear to live without her and her health is poor. All do to me of course. My father pretty much alwayd did and drank several years ago right before he was gone. Our relationship was poor, scarce, and tumultuous but there was love beneath it. Even if I didnt feel responsible for him passing I would still feel this amount of pain. I dont know how Im still alive. I wont be for long. I hope you pull through. I'd rather hurt my mom with my death than endure her death, especially since Im causing her premature death everyday. My only two fears in the world were to have a parent die or an accidental pregnancy. Only the former has happened. I honestly dont know how people survive it. My mom was wheeled away from the hospital to an ambulance to another hospital for a ruptured life-threatening bleeding ulcer and I want to say I was 18-21yrs old. When that happened and I thought I could lose her, my mind instantly went to "I have to die." Same thing when my father passed. I shouldnt even be saying any of this. Hope you can find your way. I just encourage you to say what you need to say to both of them while you can or you'll regret it. Let them know. Tell them you're scared. You can hate your mom and love her at the same time; you can also be in a state that you forget you love her. Things can happen tomorrow or sooner. Dont wait. Write them an email, or letter, read it aloud to them or let them read it in front of you. Good luck.
 
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Yea i know right it fr can be tough to get out of bed but you still manage to right ? What pushes you to ?
Honestly, what really pushes me to get up everyday is talking down on myself until I get up in order to force myself to do something productive.

My mom redeemed herself after she drank for about 10yrs of my childhood. Sorry yours didnt. So we were able to repair our relationship. I couldnt bear to live without her and her health is poor. All do to me of course. My father pretty much alwayd did and drank several years ago right before he was gone. Our relationship was poor, scarce, and tumultuous but there was love beneath it. Even if I didnt feel responsible for him passing I would still feel this amount of pain. I dont know how Im still alive. I wont be for long. I hope you pull through. I'd rather hurt my mom with my death than endure her death, especially since Im causing her premature death everyday. My only two fears in the world were to have a parent die or an accidental pregnancy. Only the former has happened. I honestly dont know how people survive it. My mom was wheeled away from the hospital to an ambulance to another hospital for a ruptured life-threatening bleeding ulcer and I want to say I was 18-21yrs old. When that happened and I thought I could lose her, my mind instantly went to "I have to die." Same thing when my father passed. I shouldnt even be saying any of this. Hope you can find your way. I just encourage you to say what you need to say to both of them while you can or you'll regret it. Let them know. Tell them you're scared. You can hate your mom and love her at the same time; you can also be in a state that you forget you love her. Things can happen tomorrow or sooner. Dont wait. Write them an email, or letter, read it aloud to them or let them read it in front of you. Good luck.
Wow thank you for your reply. This was really relatable for me to read. You're right... I should say something. I don't know if I ever will, but I should. Thank you.
 
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TL:DR; it's maybe 20 years to go and I am on my last avenue until I've exhausted all options for a quality of life I would consider acceptable, so miracles notwithstanding I will die before him by necessity.

I only have my father remaining and I'm kinda torn. I think it's not really his business, and he didn't traumatise me on purpose. He's autistic and he's older than any real understanding of autism, so who can blame him? He was one of eleven children born on a farm that got electricity after his birth. He grew up with horse power and a wood burning stove, with ice forming on the bucket in the kitchen overnight.

He thought the world was going to be okay. We all did. If you remember the 90s we had a lot of optimism that technological developments would be able to solve a lot of the world's problems. We discussed the sciences at the supper table.

I think the world lied to him. I think he was done as wrong as I've been done and all he did was follow the rules set out for him by his society and role models, and when his wife died of cancer [my mom] society and his family fucked him and left him without support, because of the way our social roles defined the father as the breadwinner and the mother as the stay at home and social organiser... she had all the friends. With her dead, he was alone with four children to raise and the occasional casserole left on the front step by a neighbour.

So y'know it's very hard. I want him to understand that it's not his fault, really. I'm not angry, or disappointed, and I'm working on accepting what's happened and I desperately hope to help him accept that I just can't do this for decades.

I'm actually on my way to his house in a few weeks because I have one more avenue of living to exhaust before I can consider myself as having completed my ethical obligation to try to minimise harm by first trying to find meaning and a place in society to exist. I will try to get on social assistance cuz maybe if I feel like I am not on the edge of homelessness I'll find some solace. Probably not, but I do not know yet. I have thus far attempted to support myself to disastrous effect lol
 
DefinitelyReady

DefinitelyReady

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Honestly, what really pushes me to get up everyday is talking down on myself until I get up in order to force myself to do something productive.


Wow thank you for your reply. This was really relatable for me to read. You're right... I should say something. I don't know if I ever will, but I should. Thank you.
You can leave a letter or email behind. A video recording. Not all at once either because that's overwhelming and then maybe you don't do it at all. Just jot down things as they come. Even if they never get heard. You can burn the notes if you have to. I hated my mom. I felt betrayed and burned a necklace (over a candle lol, took a long time) that was very important to me that I bought that symbolized her and then I threw it at her feet one day. She finally stopped drinking because she said she was about to lose her daughters for good. She was a great mom for an alcoholic. But nonetheless the damage was done. I didnt think I could forgive her but she earned it. Maybe knowing she had a chance to redeem herself gave her the strength to officially never drink again. I'm estranged from my sister officially after my father passed. Never could've dreamed our relationship would end like that. Her, I will never forgive. She doesnt have the heart to understand standing by family when they are too low to help themselves and they create collateral damage. My father and I were making progress. He drank because he always felt shut out by my mom and his "girls". He was a narcissistic but a very decent man. My sister is cold. My mom is selfless. I brought her out of bigotry and racism though a great deal. So people can change. People are hurt and dont know how to be parents. My mom had a narcissist cold mother and stripped away father figures so she was on her own. She had love from a grandmother, but otherwise I think it was just her being the black sheep as she was the the Pollyanna/Rocky Balboa personality. People are predisposed to alcoholism. We have a lot of Indian blood. It's a wonder I have no addictions. Just an addiction to not live. But suicide is in my family so there's just all kinds of nature vs nurture. They say nurture outweighs nature. I was hospitalized at the age of twelve for an overdose on aspirin (my naive ass thought I could die from reye's syndrome because my mother warned me about it). Spent 2weeks in one place; came out, and went back to another place for $25 a day on her waitress salary. While she still drank. Turned 13 in there. Im unsavable and I had a chance. I have one of the greatest mothers there is. I forgot what my point was sorry. I've been up all night and emotional from talking to my just now. Im 32 and still live with her! She doent realize that I'm about to hurt in the next month or so by leaving forever. I remember feeling very unwanted and blamed as a young kid at one point, and remember thinking in my child-like mind, "Even if neither of my parents love me, that's fine. I don't need it. I'll still be great on my own. Theming loving me doesn't dictate my worth. I know my strengths. Too bad they never will." I was obviously more strong-willed as a child than an adult lol. But I fully believed that, and I was perfectly content and at ease, with peace, that they didn't love me. I never wrote my father back when he would write from prison. I was a child and angry, and felt betrayed. Felt an allegiance to my mom. I wish I had responded though. Maybe that could've given him the hope that he still had us and could've stopped drinking. A lot of responsiblity and weight that shouldn't be put on a child, but that's the territory for children of alcoholics, and even more with cold narcissists. So I had it alot easier than you, and you're stronger and more resilient than I am obviously. I think you can still find a love of something that keeps you in this world. Can make peace with the loss, figurative or not, with them, and carry what's worth keeping of them that you can. You can find friends, a love, experiences. I still think there's hope for you. I'd like to think I'm qualified enough to say that seeing as I know there isn't for me. I didn't get to say goodbye to my father. If I had texted him back the night before he may have not had the alcohol-driven accidental fire. I would've been able to find out he was without heat. Helped with his health. What can kill you is regret and shame.
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I don't feel like I deserve to exist but at the same time I don't want to exist. And yeah, it's really hard to get out of bed everyday. Also makes graduating from uni hard.
Being is school when you feel this, under that kind of pressure added, is an accomplishment. That's growth in and of itself. You sound like a perfectionist. There's a lot of screwed up things that come with being children of alcoholics. You might read up on it. We are often used as scapegoats; feel guilt early on that isn't ours; take on responsibility of being a parent; anxiety and depression of course, which are best friends and just cycle, one worsening the other which in turn worsens the other, over and over. God forbid you should have a decent day, and then your dark shadow finds you and says "Hey. Um, you can't feel happiness or joy, or anything but pain. Wtf are you doing?" Have you tried Auvelity, valium, spravato/ketamine?
Honestly, what really pushes me to get up everyday is talking down on myself until I get up in order to force myself to do something productive.


Wow thank you for your reply. This was really relatable for me to read. You're right... I should say something. I don't know if I ever will, but I should. Thank you.
If you have to berate yourself to get up right now, hey that's still a coping skill. As much as I hate to use the term "coping skill." I can't be my own drill sergeant anymore and mentally attack myself to get out of bed anymore. I've lost that ability. It takes me days to visualize what I have to do and what strength and frame of mind I'll need, and what supplies, just to get up and do a task. Being accountable enough to take classes is awesome. I dropped out of nineth grade and only took a few local college classes before I started to get behind and couldn't handle anymore. At least if you live you'll be that much less far behind in life and haven't wasted it like I have.
 
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Have you tried dextromorphan, valium, Spravato, or ketamine? Spravato is pretty relaxing. The effect doesnt last but before I had a bad life circumstance 100% ruin my thoughts of living, it was the most relaxing experience I've ever had. Sometimes it felt like I was dead. Other times, it was emotional and not fun, or agitating. Or just nothing. Have heard it works wonders, also that it didn't help at all. Same with ketamine which is stronger.
 
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