I urgently need to go - ctb by serotonin syndrome?

[GoneGoneGone]

Hey guys,
I am desperate and out of options as my partner is checking up on me. I always get serotonin syndrome, I've been tried on different SSRIs and amitriptyline and I always have it after a couple of hours on even the smallest dosage. I have access to 250 mg amitriptyline and some Wellbutrin pills, would this do it if I couldn't even tolerate 10 mg of amitriptyline? The only other option is to jump at night into the water, we have a lake in a park nearby, and hope I go by cold water shock or hypothermia but SI kick in... I'm stuck and out of options as my partner checks up on me.
Thanks.

 

[faust]

Hello,
Unfortunately you must have a huge load of Ami if you want to use it, here is the method:

Amitriptyline Cocktail - ASH

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[GoneGoneGone]

Hello,
Unfortunately you must have a huge load of Ami if you want to use it, here is the method:

Amitriptyline Cocktail - ASH

web.archive.org

Thanks. Yes, I've read that I need entire grams for Ami, but I get serotonin syndrome even at 10 mg... Surely for a dosage 20 times higher it should get lethal in my case. I don't wanna be committed, just wanna go.

 

[faust]

Thanks. Yes, I've read that I need entire grams for Ami, but I get serotonin syndrome even at 10 mg... Surely for a dosage 20 times higher it should get lethal in my case. I don't wanna be committed, just wanna go.

Sorry, we can only say what amount is lethal for everybody. In your case we don't know for sure how much do you need.

 

[whereispeace]

From what I've heard, serotonin syndrome is not a very pleasant experience. And I don't know if it would even result in death.

 

[Sensei]

From what I've heard, serotonin syndrome is not a very pleasant experience.

Indeed. Symptoms may include fever above 41 °C, seizures, chest pain, and kidney failure. There are better ways.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

Indeed. Symptoms may include fever above 41 °C, seizures, chest pain, and kidney failure. There are better ways.

Yes it is absolutely awful, I had it and almost went to the ER, but I cannot get my hands on anything else. Now I cannot even request SSRIs since my doctor knows I have serotonin syndrome. I've tried partial hanging several times but always get up in the last second.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Indeed. Symptoms may include fever above 41 °C, seizures, chest pain, and kidney failure. There are better ways.

But OP is saying that she doesn't have access to better ways. She's doing her best to figure out if this method will work before attempting.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

But OP is saying that she doesn't have access to better ways. She's doing her best to figure out if this method will work before attempting.

Why do you assume I'm a woman? The sheer desperation?
Btw I also have a surgical knife, any resources about that?

 

[Soul]

Hey guys,
I am desperate and out of options as my partner is checking up on me. I always get serotonin syndrome, I've been tried on different SSRIs and amitriptyline and I always have it after a couple of hours on even the smallest dosage. I have access to 250 mg amitriptyline and some Wellbutrin pills, would this do it if I couldn't even tolerate 10 mg of amitriptyline? The only other option is to jump at night into the water, we have a lake in a park nearby, and hope I go by cold water shock or hypothermia but SI kick in... I'm stuck and out of options as my partner checks up on me.
Thanks.

I'm sorry about everything that's led you to ponder this. I appreciate that you want to be sure of what you're doing, and that you don't want to make your situation worse by being found in the middle of an attempt. It's such a specific sitution, though - I'd be surprised if a clear answer is available.

In case it's any help, this article:

Serotonin Syndrome

Serotonin syndrome is a potentially life-threatening syndrome that is precipitated by the use of serotonergic drugs and overactivation of both the peripheral and central postsynaptic 5HT-1A and, most notably, 5HT-2A receptors. This syndrome consists of ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

says the syndrome is more likely to be life-threatening if other drugs are involved (an MAOI and/or multiple different SSRIs).

The article also says that the syndrome can take a long time to kick in. How often are you being monitored?

Be gentle with yourself and please don't rush into anything. x

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Why do you assume I'm a woman? The sheer desperation?

Nope, just a series of cognitive errors and misreading.

FWIW, lots of members erroneously assume I'm a male. Did you assume the same and feel more defensive as a result? Personally, I sometimes respond that way.

 

[Sensei]

But OP is saying that she doesn't have access to better ways. She's doing her best to figure out if this method will work before attempting.

Point taken.

 

[Soul]

All the best people get mistaken for other genders - it's downright admirable.

But anyway! I've found some articles, and some of them list yet further case histories in the bibliographies:

Google Scholar

scholar.google.co.uk

I hope that's some help in deciding what you want to do. Whatever you decide, I wish you positive outcomes.

 

[Sensei]

Btw I also have a surgical knife, any resources about that?

There's a way to kill yourself quickly and with a minimum of pain, but I don't think you'll find it in the resource section.

 

[Donk]

There's a way to kill yourself quickly and with a minimum of pain, but I don't think you'll find it in the resource section.

which method is that?

 

[Sensei]

which method is that?

With all due respect to the OP, they seem to be not only desperate, but also impulsive. To describe the method here would be akin to handing them a gun, which arguably is a violation of the rules of this community. In fact, one could even argue that it's questionable that I merely hint at this method and suggest that the they should research it on their own. I don't know if this reasoning holds water, but I think it does. Anyways, I've written a guide to this method and maybe I should finish it and publish it.

 

[Donk]

With all due respect to the OP, they seem to be not only desperate, but also impulsive. To describe the method here would be akin to handing them a gun, which arguably is a violation of the rules of this community. In fact, one could even argue that it's questionable that I merely hint at this method and suggest that the they should research it on their own. I don't know if this reasoning holds water, but I think it does. Anyways, I've written a guide to this method and maybe I should finish it and publish it.

can you pm me and explain the method? how did you come up with this method?

 

[Mm80]

An unqualified no on the serotonin syndrome im afraid. Done a bit of reading on it and i believe its very treatable and difficukt to die from. I believe thats why doctors give out ssris like sweets, because they are relatively very safe in overdose.
Agree with sensei you do seem very impulsive and desparate, and im sorry you feel this way it must be awful. My conscience wouldnt allow me to support ctb when you are like this, but thats a personal thing and i respect others standpoint on this.
Maybe sharing where you are at emotionally and why, could help short term?
Thanks.

 

[Sensei]

can you pm me and explain the method?

I've already received PM's about this and to save time and effort I'll post a guide.

how did you come up with this method?

I didn't. It has already been discussed in this forum, although very briefly. I've simply done more research.

 

[oneanonymous]

I've experienced SS a few times and it was an awful experience. But from what I understand, actually dying from it is incredibly rare.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

I'm sorry about everything that's led you to ponder this. I appreciate that you want to be sure of what you're doing, and that you don't want to make your situation worse by being found in the middle of an attempt. It's such a specific sitution, though - I'd be surprised if a clear answer is available.

In case it's any help, this article:

Serotonin Syndrome

Serotonin syndrome is a potentially life-threatening syndrome that is precipitated by the use of serotonergic drugs and overactivation of both the peripheral and central postsynaptic 5HT-1A and, most notably, 5HT-2A receptors. This syndrome consists of ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

says the syndrome is more likely to be life-threatening if other drugs are involved (an MAOI and/or multiple different SSRIs).

The article also says that the syndrome can take a long time to kick in. How often are you being monitored?

Be gentle with yourself and please don't rush into anything. x

There are very few hours when I'm not being monitored due to Corona.

With all due respect to the OP, they seem to be not only desperate, but also impulsive. To describe the method here would be akin to handing them a gun, which arguably is a violation of the rules of this community. In fact, one could even argue that it's questionable that I merely hint at this method and suggest that the they should research it on their own. I don't know if this reasoning holds water, but I think it does. Anyways, I've written a guide to this method and maybe I should finish it and publish it.

I'm not impulsive, I'm in a rush because of external circumstances. But I need an effective method, not to land in the ER like a veggie
Guys I really need a method or at least how to postpone so I can think. I feel like running and jumping into the water

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Guys I really need a method or at least how to postpone so I can think. I feel like running and jumping into the water

I hear your frustration and need.

Based on your current situation, you're limited in methods. You've read the Resource Compilation?

How to postpone...it's hard to say since I don't know enough about you or your situation. If it were me, I would find at least two doable methods I could do once the restrictions are lifted. I would work out a detailed plan for each -- obtaining supplies, logistics of the method, all practicalities like notes, will, imagining actually doing each, etc. It would give me something practical and empowering to focus on. The more empowered and capable I feel in one area, the more I feel that overall. And planning a ctb often reveals other things that need some attention. It's actually quite a helpful process, it may reveal reasons to go on living, or help to validate the decision and make one more capable to do it successfully.

 

[Underwhelming]

I wouldn't recommend this - my roommate accidentally gave herself serotonin syndrome one night after a party after a drug interaction with her antidepressants - she was in great pain, vomiting uncontrollably, super out of it, had a huge migraine and a high temperature for around 6 or 7 hours - she said i was VERY painful and the most uncomfortable experience of her life.

 

[oneanonymous]

I wouldn't recommend this - my roommate accidentally gave herself serotonin syndrome one night after a party after a drug interaction with her antidepressants - she was in great pain, vomiting uncontrollably, super out of it, had a huge migraine and a high temperature for around 6 or 7 hours - she said i was VERY painful and the most uncomfortable experience of her life.

This. It is very uncomfortable and just awful. Not my worst experience but it is up there. The first time I had it, no one could even touch me without it inducing seizures. I would not recommend this to anyone.

 

[faust]

This. It is very uncomfortable and just awful. Not my worst experience but it is up there. The first time I had it, no one could even touch me without it inducing seizures. I would not recommend this to anyone.

Agreed. EPS are likely, akathisia and dystonia combined is a nightmare. Serotonin syndrome may not come alone.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

I hear your frustration and need.

Based on your current situation, you're limited in methods. You've read the Resource Compilation?

How to postpone...it's hard to say since I don't know enough about you or your situation. If it were me, I would find at least two doable methods I could do once the restrictions are lifted. I would work out a detailed plan for each -- obtaining supplies, logistics of the method, all practicalities like notes, will, imagining actually doing each, etc. It would give me something practical and empowering to focus on. The more empowered and capable I feel in one area, the more I feel that overall. And planning a ctb often reveals other things that need some attention. It's actually quite a helpful process, it may reveal reasons to go on living, or help to validate the decision and make one more capable to do it successfully.

I don't need to write a will or explain anything, family, partner, and a few close friends I know I've attempted multiple times before. I just need to go

 

[toomuchtimetodie]

Like others have exhausted... Avoid, having experienced it people are not exaggerating. I got psychosis from it which lets just say doesnt do your social status any good when you think your neighbours are enemies and youre walking the streets thinking youre in a dream.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

Like others have exhausted... Avoid, having experienced it people are not exaggerating. I got psychosis from it which lets just say doesnt do your social status any good when you think your neighbours are enemies and youre walking the streets thinking youre in a dream.

I don't know any of my neighbors.
Guys next idea. What if I just try partial and whatever happens happens? I don't even care if I'm a veggie at this point. This has to end. I can leave instructions to my family and partner to make sure wherever I end up I won't be mistreated.

 

[toomuchtimetodie]

Someone needs to put it bluntly I hate to burst your bubble but there is a very tiny chance of dying and using a patronising tone to people throwing you some advice doesn't mean the success chances increase. You're more likely to end up worse off either physically or mentally damaged and if like me you get psychosis, it's possible to do major things you regret. It fluctuates your emotions terribly you could end up becoming enraged and killing someone.

We're not making it a lousy method, we wish it was reliable. Or are you just looking for attention...

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I don't say any of this to make you defensive, please understand I care about what you're going through but am also considering the bigger picture as well as what we members are experiencing in reading the thread and what our limitations are.

First, you said you've attempted multiple times. You are likely well versed in the risks and outcomes of failure. If you don't care about being a veggie or having long term and potentially irreparable damage, then that is a choice you have to make for yourself, only you can. If you want support for it, I realistically doubt you'll receive it here, so if that's your choice, then you gotta own it. If your inner voice is saying to wait, then I suggest paying heed to it.

Second, you keep pushing for more ideas. That crosses the line in the rules of asking for methods, or members encouraging you. Respectfully, the forum doesn't support that kind of problem solving. From an individual perspective, you seem to be trying to make others feel your pressure and take on some responsibility for your success and well being. It's your ctb. No one can prep your methods or do them for you, neither can we make your wishes come to fruition if they're not feasible.

For my own well being, I'm going to drop off this particular thread because it seems to be either circling the same subjects with no reasonable hope for resolution, or heading in a bad direction I don't want to be witness to. I sincerely wish for your well being, and maybe I'll see you on other threads.