I think suicide is the cure for all problems

[Bruces]

It fixes everything

 

[Passerby]

Definitely not the cure for all problems, all the heart ache that goes with a suicide is damaging to family and friends, the majority of peoples problems can be fixed somewhat and people can go on to live some kind of positive life.

Saying that, you only have to read this website for an hour to realise how much people suffer with pain, heart ache, loneliness, mental health, not loved etc etc.

A high number of members on this website have just had enough of life and personally in my case, suicide is my only option i have, my mental health is deteriorating and it's only a matter of time before i can't take it anymore.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I'd like to suggest the OP move this post to Suicide Discussion rather than Recovery. Might be triggering for those trying to focus on their recovery. It's kind of like waving around a bottle of alcohol at an AA meeting.

 

[Deleted member 17949]

I guess if you see your life as a problem then yeah it does.

 

[wanttodie]

yes I agree suicide is the cure for all problems

 

[SoIntoYou]

Which is exactly why it's illegal. They don't like cures, only treatments.

 

[Jambi]

I agree. It is a pity that we have no means of being able to put this solution into practice in a dignified and effective way.

Perhaps if that were possible, everyone would end up killing themselves at some point in life.

 

[morningdew]

very true. Some problems can be solved and others just cause endless suffering.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

Which is exactly why it's illegal. They don't like cures, only treatments.

Sorry if I'm ignorant, what do you mean it's illegal? Like is there a law that says that if you fail an attempt you go to jail

Also no man, no problem - exactly what Stalin said

 

[SoIntoYou]

Sorry if I'm ignorant, what do you mean it's illegal? Like is there a law that says that if you fail an attempt you go to jail

Also no man, no problem - exactly what Stalin said

Yea, suicide is illegal, last time I checked.

 

[FohPah]

Suffering is a problem; there's no suffering without life; the absence of life is not a problem.

 

[Deleted member 19654]

Yea, suicide is illegal, last time I checked.

I think that differs depending on which country on you're in. Suicide isn't illegal in places like the UK or the US. You won't get into trouble because of an attempt but you may be placed under an involuntary psychiatric hold etc.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

Which is exactly why it's illegal. They don't like cures, only treatments.

Exactly. Cures aren't good for business. Less workers isn't good for business.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

Yea, suicide is illegal, last time I checked.

Where??

Or maybe you mean that euthanasia is not legal everywhere?

 

[airboy_a380]

Where??

Or maybe you mean that euthanasia is not legal everywhere?

Prob in the Middle East haha

 

[SoIntoYou]

Where??

Or maybe you mean that euthanasia is not legal everywhere?

Sorry, I just wiki'd this and apparently it hasn't been illegal in most states for a couple decades now, so you're not going to jail if you fail. Like Maxtothemax said, you might be involuntarily committed, which is pretty bad too. It IS very illegal to help people do it though, but I think most of us knew that.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

Where??

Or maybe you mean that euthanasia is not legal everywhere?

Kenya and some other african countries.
If you fail an attempt, you can get up to 2 years prison or a fine for being guilty of a misdemeanor.

 

[InevitablePattern91]

My mother said this (very angry btw): "Don't be that selfish. Suicide is a cure for YOUR problems. But it will be a huge problem for us, your family. We will have to face your death, losing a son will definetly ruin my life and your father's life forever."

 

[SoIntoYou]

My mother said this (very angry btw): "Don't be that selfish. Suicide is a cure for YOUR problems. But it will be a huge problem for us, your family. We will have to face your death, losing a son will definetly ruin my life and your father's life forever."

Lol, essentially admitting that your problems are nothing compared to theirs, very selfish indeed. And I don't think she uses the word "ruin" correctly. Something tells me they won't be losing their jobs or living on the streets if you died. Sometimes I see parents as not responsible adults, but rather children who fuck irresponsibly.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

My mother said this (very angry btw): "Don't be that selfish. Suicide is a cure for YOUR problems. But it will be a huge problem for us, your family. We will have to face your death, losing a son will definetly ruin my life and your father's life forever."

This type of response is emotional blackmail.
Nobody should have to live simply so that others avoid any kind of hardship.
There has to be a certain quality of life for that person too.

 

[InevitablePattern91]

Lol, essentially admitting that your problems are nothing compared to theirs, very selfish indeed. And I don't think she uses the word "ruin" correctly. Something tells me they won't be losing their jobs of living on the streets if you died. Sometimes I see parents as not responsible adults, but children who fuck irresponsibly.

Well, she said that will be depressed forever, I don't know if it's true or if she's just playing with my mind.

But my father didn't go to work for 3 days when I tryed ctb. So, maybe he will actually quit the job if I do it.

I agree with you, forcing someone to stay alive using psychology torture is a selfish act.

 

[SoIntoYou]

Well, she said that will be depressed forever, I don't know if it's true or if she's just playing with my mind.

But my father didn't go to work for 3 days when I tryed ctb. So, maybe he will actually quit the job if I do it.

I agree with you, forcing someone to stay alive using psychology torture is a selfish act.

Well parents make the mistake of thinking that as long as they are 100% the best parents they can be, that their children will turn out exactly as they want them to, ignoring the fact that there are countless other environmental factors that go their personalities. When depression and suicides/attempts happen, parents take it personally, like it reflects 100% back on them and their parenting skills, which is foolish, to say the least. When your child is trying to die, your last thought should be about how it affects YOU and more about how to better help them, which is obviously not happening here. If this were a perfect world, parents would acknowledge just how powerless they are in shaping their children and accept whatever their decisions are, and move on. Can't they see what kind of fucked up world they chose to bring their children into? Very irresponsible, shortsighted, and selfish to say the least.

 

[TAW122]

I would say in an objective sense, and from a nihilistic perspective, then yes, suicide would solve all the problems one has as one would no longer be around to experience the problems of life. However, more realistically, I think if there are other solutions that haven't been explored or considered, then it is worth considering it before jumping onto the final permanent option, which is suicide. Of course, the only one who knows when enough is enough is the person him/herself, so it's a personal judgment call at the end.

 

[Ybother]

I keep arriving at the same conclusion. It's not like I want to feel this way all the time.

 

[VIBRITANNIA]

it is, but people disagree with that claim because they can only think about their pain. of course, losing a loved one is awful, and i wouldn't wish it on anybody. but they never consider just how painful life has to be to drive you to that decision. they never bother to truly check on you, but then they turn around and preach that suicide isn't the solution.

if it isn't the solution then i want them to make a solution, like, i don't know, re-evaluating how society works. maybe prevention is the better word, but i don't know. i'm tired.

 

[alexit]

Philosophically, does it cure hunger, disease, poverty, hatred? Gets rid of the possibility for it. I guess it comes down to what you consider a cure to be.

 

[MeriDeath]

Suicide is the cure for our problems only. It covers you with a blank full of darkness forever. You are free to go and unlock a new achivement: sleeping forever. But at the same time you are giving up on something beautiful (like some say) that's called life. Bottom line, some people are giving up on playing the game feeling losers. Some people just shut the power off happily knowing they have just gotten rid of it forever.

 

[Bruces]

I can't seem to see the necessity for my life only to endure a constant repetition of boredom

 

[idrathernotexist]

Sorry if I'm ignorant, what do you mean it's illegal? Like is there a law that says that if you fail an attempt you go to jail

Also no man, no problem - exactly what Stalin said

In most US states its illegal because then it gives first responders the right to enter the property if an attempt is reported (for example if your best friend reports that youre currently making an attempt, since its illegal the first responders can use the reason of rightful cause to enter the property), but they don't punish those who make attempts.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

In most US states its illegal because then it gives first responders the right to enter the property if an attempt is reported (for example if your best friend reports that youre currently making an attempt, since its illegal the first responders can use the reason of rightful cause to enter the property), but they don't punish those who make attempts.

Yeah but they enter to "preserve life" that's their duty. But if you're not punished with jail for an attempt then I don't see how it's illegal.

Also I'm involved for the second time in a discussion in which the question I pose is in general and people reply about the US. Not all of US are from the US.