I think jumping is the only option

[Ruffian]

Depression is a medical reason but I get what you were trying to say, that some other physical pain or problem was making his life horrible. And no, I'm not tired of hearing about this, in fact this is the first time I'm hearing you say this and I don't mind hearing it again. You say what you need to as many times as you need to. And in fact I like hearing about other ppl going through with it, and being brave enough, makes me feel braver. I'm sorry for you loss, it's never easy. Sending all the love

Thank you for the kind words. I always have to remind myself of the physical aspect of my bipolar mood swings. And I still tear up remembering my cousin, and just that whole part of my childhood that died long before.

Jumping is my best option and I've tried it before. SI is an absolute bitch

Do you mind me asking about your attempt at jumping? If I had the nerve, I think you're right about it being the way to go.

 

[Allpainnogain]

the first retailer i found supplied helium at 99% purity (or so they assured me)

the regulator is only absolutely necessary for small cylinders, otherwise it's only recommended if you're not using more than one. this comes from the PPH, although my edition is perhaps outdated

i wouldn't say preparation time is a significant con when weighed against the sense of fear other methods could create.

Edit: somehow ended up quoting twice

It seems complicated when severely depressed and anxious/panicky my mind isn't workzing right

 

[lynn14]

Jumping is my best option and I've tried it before. SI is an absolute bitch

How did you do with overcoming SI?

 

[Dartz]

Do you mind me asking about your attempt at jumping? If I had the nerve, I think you're right about it being the way to go.

I've survived a lower jump into water but twice now I've tried going to the edge of a suitability high spot with enough of a drop to kill me and both times I couldn't get past the SI. It's almost paralyzing, freezes you up and almost feels like drowning in air if that makes any sense. I'm definitely getting drunk or high next time.

 

[phoenixx]

There's a carpark in my city thats 9 stories high, people have successfully ctb jumping from there in the past so I can't see why it wouldn't work (especially if you're landing on concrete and go head first). SI is hard to conquer but drinking might help a bit, just don't drink too much though

 

[Jessica5]

Retailers have started to mix pure helium with oxygen due to this method being more popular for suicide. The usual mix now is 80%helium 20% oxygen. It's rare to find pure helium in party shops or places where it is readily available. I'd suggest to ask for paper work for proof. Some retailers claim to sell pure helium when it is actually not. More of an indemnity issue.

To my understanding you need a regulator to be able to control the right amount of air flow. I might be wrong, because I have only schemed through the posts on this method. To be honest I haven't read in depth.

It's the perfect painless method. Only con is that pure helium is really expensive, getting more difficult to source pure, very obvious (the tank is big) and needs certain level of research/planning to carry out well.


It's true that research indicates that most people that survived jumping claim to have regretted. I guess it's human psychology. Takes loads of commitment and courage to overcome your SI. Not an easy method, psychologically.

Research on alcohol can be found online. Just need to Google it.

First of all, I don't think people who wish they had died will admit it. Assuming they're not paralyzed, they might be planning a second suicide attempt. And, there's no better to be forced to stay alive then admit you wish you were dead. You might be locked in a psych ward, might lose your right to firearms, the relatives might not let you leave the house, etc.


Second of all, even if a person admits that the only thing they regret about their suicide attempt is that it didn't kill them, no news source will publish that. The media is very anti-choice for suicide, for in case you haven't noticed.

Third of all, it's possible that the people who survived are the people who least wanted to die in the first place. Notably, these would often be people who made an effort to swim to shore after surviving the fall rather than allowing themselves to drown. (Although some of them might have been "rescued" against their will by a boat.)

Anyway, the estimate is that 95% of people die from the jump from Golden Gate, and 3% of the remaining 5% die of drowning. This results in a total mortality of 98%.

 

[omoidarui]

Retailers have started to mix pure helium with oxygen due to this method being more popular for suicide. The usual mix now is 80%helium 20% oxygen. It's rare to find pure helium in party shops or places where it is readily available. I'd suggest to ask for paper work for proof. Some retailers claim to sell pure helium when it is actually not. More of an indemnity issue.

To my understanding you need a regulator to be able to control the right amount of air flow. I might be wrong, because I have only schemed through the posts on this method. To be honest I haven't read in depth.

It's the perfect painless method. Only con is that pure helium is really expensive, getting more difficult to source pure, very obvious (the tank is big) and needs certain level of research/planning to carry out well.

i think they introduced helium-air because of the scarcity of helium itself. not sure this method has gained enough momentum yet that suppliers would sell helium-air to deter self-harm. there were only 58 registered suicides involving helium in the UK in 2012, but the rising numbers make it only a matter of time before this opportunistic exit door is closed.

i've read through a lot of literature, and flow control is not always advocated.

 

[JadedGray]

Maybe jumping from the 9th storey has a high success rate, but in case of failing it may become very hard to ctb again (if you become paralyzed or even if you go into a coma). On the opposite, "less reliable" SN method gives you a second chance nearly certainly.
Also, if you are lucky to die, you may not die instantly. Here is an article about girl who jumped from the roof of 16-storey building (it is in Russian, but its Google translation to English is rather good): https://kh.vgorode.ua/news/sobytyia...nashly-devushku-upavshuui-s-kryshy-16-etazhky
She died in hospital, and was conscious and able to speak at the time of ambulance arrival.

The video in that article is hard to watch. She slit her throat and they're still trying to make her speak. It looks like she slit her wrists too before jumping. Poor girl. :(

 

[Deardaddy]

At least she was successful . It be tragic if she survive. Her cut throat might have saved her from permanent pain

 

[JadedGray]

At least she was successful . It be tragic if she survive. Her cut throat might have saved her from permanent pain

Yes, and the article says that the police were going to press charges for premeditated murder (suicide) against her. She's definitely in a better place.

 

[Its time its time]

i think they introduced helium-air because of the scarcity of helium itself. not sure this method has gained enough momentum yet that suppliers would sell helium-air to deter self-harm. there were only 58 registered suicides involving helium in the UK in 2012, but the rising numbers make it only a matter of time before this opportunistic exit door is closed.

i've read through a lot of literature, and flow control is not always advocated.

You can Google online. On a few forums people mention that retailers (party, ect) started to mix to prevent kids/suicides. Also the raise in awareness of this method prompted the Australian government to intervene with helium sales.

The Office for National Statistics said helium-related deaths have increased over time, rising from two in 2001 to a peak of 82 in 2014, before falling to 69 in 2016. 6122 suicides in 2014 and 5965 suicides in 2016, UK. Yeah seems like a fraction in the UK.

 

[Severen]

Yes, I read something where there's a net under the Golden Gate Bridge now? And what about the reports of people surviving and saying they regretted it the minute they jumped? Is that just pro-life propaganda do you think? I always wonder about that. Especially because of the method I'm choosing, but that's a topic for another thread.

Most people would say such things because the alternative is getting locked up in a psych ward for a very long time... Being suicidal is a thought crime, after all.

 

[Jessica5]

Yes, and the article says that the police were going to press charges for premeditated murder (suicide) against her. She's definitely in a better place.

Attempted suicide is attempted murder in Russia? Seriously?

Let me guess: to make things all the worse, Russia does not have the death penalty. Therefore, attempted suicide is not a capital offense in Russia like it was when it was criminalized in the Anglo-American system. TBH, I would have liked being sentenced to death for attempted suicide 200 years ago. Especially since those were the days when people were executed 2-6 months after conviction, instead of today's system where people sit on death row for a minimum of a decade before execution.

 

[JadedGray]

Attempted suicide is attempted murder in Russia? Seriously?

Let me guess: to make things all the worse, Russia does not have the death penalty. Therefore, attempted suicide is not a capital offense in Russia like it was when it was criminalized in the Anglo-American system. TBH, I would have liked being sentenced to death for attempted suicide 200 years ago. Especially since those were the days when people were executed 2-6 months after conviction, instead of today's system where people sit on death row for a minimum of a decade before execution.

Another Jessica. :)

The article says: The police opened criminal proceedings under article 115 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine ("premeditated murder") with the notation "suicide".

That's true. A suicidal person would have gotten their wish, back when there was the death penalty, which Russia no longer has.

 

[Dun Emeritus]

If a 5-storey mall in my country has allowed 3 people to successfully suicide then your 9-storey car park should be more than enough.

 

[Roger]

I wonder if the translation from Russian or Ukrainian has anything to do with it ?
After all, the German word for suicide is selbstmord which translates directly as "self murder"

 

[SomebodyBroken]

I wonder if the translation from Russian or Ukrainian has anything to do with it ?
After all, the German word for suicide is selbstmord which translates directly as "self murder"

news about a girl from Ukraine, which implies - there may be problems with the translation into other languages. but not in this case, everyone translated correctly. against her a criminal case under article murder (marked suicide).

 

[justlol1]

You have plenty more

 

[GeorgeJL]

Jumping is a shitty archaic barbaric option. Please consider a peaceful dignitifed option. Sodium Nitrite is cheap, easy to get, and relatively peaceful. And it seems like butandiol might be a similarly good option.

 

[Ruffian]

Most people would say such things because the alternative is getting locked up in a psych ward for a very long time... Being suicidal is a thought crime, after all.

I have to correct myself. San Francisco recently approved a bill to have a net constructed under the GGB by like 2021. The movement was spearheaded by a psychiatrist who's daughter died from jumping off the bridge. Nancy Pelosi got behind it as well. That just leaves me dumbfounded - Ok, I guess that makes 2 jumps? Great use of money that could have been spent improving access to mental health services or research on chronic pain treatments.

 

[soda_pressed]

I have to correct myself. San Francisco recently approved a bill to have a net constructed under the GGB by like 2021. The movement was spearheaded by a psychiatrist who's daughter died from jumping off the bridge. Nancy Pelosi got behind it as well. That just leaves me dumbfounded - Ok, I guess that makes 2 jumps? Great use of money that could have been spent improving access to mental health services or research on chronic pain treatments.

I think about this all the time. Mental health is so underfunded, no wonder so many people take their lives

 

[Dartz]

I think about this all the time. Mental health is so underfunded, no wonder so many people take their lives

True. Some people are just in the worst spot and feel there is no other way. Others like me already considered our options rationally and still want to die. It's an option and some of us need it.

 

[Ruffian]

I think about this all the time. Mental health is so underfunded, no wonder so many people take their lives

What's even scarier is how much worse one bad dr. or therapist can make you.

 

[Alchemist]

I have to correct myself. San Francisco recently approved a bill to have a net constructed under the GGB by like 2021. The movement was spearheaded by a psychiatrist who's daughter died from jumping off the bridge. Nancy Pelosi got behind it as well. That just leaves me dumbfounded - Ok, I guess that makes 2 jumps? Great use of money that could have been spent improving access to mental health services or research on chronic pain treatments.

Funny they can throw money on that while the city literally drowns in shit.

 

[soda_pressed]

Jumping is a shitty archaic barbaric option. Please consider a peaceful dignitifed option. Sodium Nitrite is cheap, easy to get, and relatively peaceful. And it seems like butandiol might be a similarly good option.

I have though. Tried hanging, overdosing, none of them worked. I'd get n but it's far too much money. I can't afford sn either so jumping really is the most viable option. I'm sorry you don't agree with my method, but it's the right method for me.

 

[stubblejumper]

You can Google online. On a few forums people mention that retailers (party, ect) started to mix to prevent kids/suicides. Also the raise in awareness of this method prompted the Australian government to intervene with helium sales.

The Office for National Statistics said helium-related deaths have increased over time, rising from two in 2001 to a peak of 82 in 2014, before falling to 69 in 2016. 6122 suicides in 2014 and 5965 suicides in 2016, UK. Yeah seems like a fraction in the UK.

That might be the case at party shops. If you bought helium from a welding supply shop, it would not be adulterated with oxygen. Helium mixed with oxygen would not work as a gas for MIG welding.

 

[Suicidal4Ever]

All I can say is I'm jealous. I wish I had the courage to jump. I work on the 46th floor of a building in Manhattan. In theory, suicide should be so easy. And yet, I'm still here, stuck looking into methods like N and SN.

Yeah if only fear could be turned off. World population would probably be cut in half.

 

[Freedom21]

You're not alone I'm thinking of jumping too. I can't pass out in partial and tried full rope broke worst pain struggling to breath for two or three minutes can take more than 5 to pass out. Tried overdose nothing works unless you get illegal hardcore ones or nembal or what they use to kill animals at vet but it's in Mexico so not an option. Live with family they don't believe in guns. I live in Florida so u would have to travel o a cliff I wouldn't want to do it off a build on a chance I would kill someone. Read a story about a girl who jump off a bridge and hit a car killed the person in it. It's not stupid I would do full if I didn't fail and knew what it was like. I honestly think most people did from not breathing not from compressing the arteries. It's freaking hard

 

[hamednova]

You're not alone I'm thinking of jumping too. I can't pass out in partial and tried full rope broke worst pain struggling to breath for two or three minutes can take more than 5 to pass out. Tried overdose nothing works unless you get illegal hardcore ones or nembal or what they use to kill animals at vet but it's in Mexico so not an option. Live with family they don't believe in guns. I live in Florida so u would have to travel o a cliff I wouldn't want to do it off a build on a chance I would kill someone. Read a story about a girl who jump off a bridge and hit a car killed the person in it. It's not stupid I would do full if I didn't fail and knew what it was like. I honestly think most people did from not breathing not from compressing the arteries. It's freaking hard

You should try out sodium, nitrite. Cheap and ez pz death

 

[soda_pressed]

You're not alone I'm thinking of jumping too. I can't pass out in partial and tried full rope broke worst pain struggling to breath for two or three minutes can take more than 5 to pass out. Tried overdose nothing works unless you get illegal hardcore ones or nembal or what they use to kill animals at vet but it's in Mexico so not an option. Live with family they don't believe in guns. I live in Florida so u would have to travel o a cliff I wouldn't want to do it off a build on a chance I would kill someone. Read a story about a girl who jump off a bridge and hit a car killed the person in it. It's not stupid I would do full if I didn't fail and knew what it was like. I honestly think most people did from not breathing not from compressing the arteries. It's freaking hard

I'd hate not being able to breathe in my last moments. I'd just look down right before jumping to not hit anyone