Venting I personally wish this place was more of a safe space reserved for those who really want to die

[Defenestration]

Je ne suis pas entièrement d'accord avec cela. Vouloir se suicider est dans la plupart des cas la conséquence de troubles mentaux et physiques sévères. Le problème est que dans de nombreux cas, les dégâts ne peuvent pas être réparés, laissant la mort comme seule option. Dans la mesure où je suis d'accord avec vous, il est souvent encore rationnel de se suicider, mais « l'existence » en elle-même n'est pas le problème. Il fut un temps où j'appréciais mon existence...

Me too... before my psychiatrie illnesses life suited me ...but now there is no cure. Even the doctor said there wasn't much he could do for me.
I dont want to die,i want to stop suffer...but now impossible

So the ultimate solution is : ctb this year i feel relieved.
It's definitive...even winning 100 million in the lotto won't change my mind.

 

[omegas82128]

I wish this was more of a safe space reserved for those who really want to die, it does feel like this site has become too mainstream now with too many pro-lifers and trolls, to me it feels like the suicide discussion is now just used as a place to post absolutely anything.

And I don't understand the people who act like suicide is easy for absolutely everyone when it clearly isn't, honestly I cannot stand ignorant people who act like if people struggle to ctb because methods are inaccessible for them or they fear suicide failing it means they don't want it enough. It feels like in the past the posts were of suicidal people and people actually wanting to die rather than this site just being like anywhere else on the internet, to be honest it feels like pro-lifers delusions are all over this site with how the word "recovery" is constantly used.

Sorry but existence is the problem, wanting to die isn't an "illness" or some kind of irrational way to feel, it disgusts me how many act like people are mentally ill for wanting to escape from this meaningless and undesirable existence that was imposed on them in the first place, I see suicide as the rational solution to prevent all future unnecessary suffering.

But honestly I'm not surprised that pro-lifers are everywhere as we exist in such a hellish life worshipping society where many humans refuse to accept that existence itself is nothing more than an unnecessary harm. Humans truly are the worst species, I'd certainly always see it as better to not exist in this evil, disgusting world, wanting to die is all that makes sense to me, it's not something to "recover" from.

I've been browsing the community for over an year now and recently made an account.

But I remember seeing it being much worse in the start. It was in the aftermath of the YouTube video through which I found the forum.

I don't remember the SaSu you speak of, but personally I think the diversity of opinion is important. Rather than the site's moderation make it more of a safe space, I think it should be an individual responsibility. As a safe space is subjective, like people's boundaries.

It's still a much better place to discuss suicide than any other place

 

[Csmith8827]

It's still a much better place to discuss suicide than any other place

Fuck discussing anything. Give me my gun, I want out...

 

[jbear824]

I personally think more sub forums would help curtail this issue.

I've been browsing the community for over an year now and recently made an account.

But I remember seeing it being much worse in the start. It was in the aftermath of the YouTube video through which I found the forum.

I don't remember the SaSu you speak of, but personally I think the diversity of opinion is important. Rather than the site's moderation make it more of a safe space, I think it should be an individual responsibility. As a safe space is subjective, like people's boundaries.

It's still a much better place to discuss suicide than any other place

Diversity of opinion is fine...when it's solicited.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Venting on a public forum... this isn't a blog.
Responses are expected

I never said responses weren't expected; I was merely saying that not all posts in this forum have to always invoke discussion. Obviously responses are inevitable to have in a public forum and that's why I said that FC doesn't care about any of said discussions that goes on her threads because she never replies to any of it.

I'm not familiar with what this suicide forum used to look like before November 2023, but would my hunch be correct that incel discussions were more common, too?

I honestly got no idea but I do know that, back then, nobody would argue against FC. They'd all relate to each other. Maybe the same thing applies to the incel discussions. I genuinely don't know

 

[girlsboysthems]

I've been here since 2020 and already at the time there were a lot of topics like that...of the SN and N...everything ok the number may have increased.

I prefer a person who comes here and asks if their method is ok rather than someone who is going to do anything and end up quadriplegic.no?????

if the person doesn't talk about it here where will they talk about it?

Of course there is the search function but sometimes you need to be reassured by posting YOUR own subject. I am still alive because just before jumping I was held back by the survival instinct... yes I spent hours and hours reading the topics on the jump...and even elsewhere but I just need to be reassured because it stresses me out that there is 2/100 survival.

you're talking about people who post pictures and who will end up in a psychiatric hospital or with the police i understand its dangerous ok... but if in a farewell thread you put a "good Luck it will be ok" this can be considered as incitement to suicide and if the family of the dead person comes across the phone and is litigious you can get into a lot of trouble. I find this law to be stupid, but it's the law.

friendly, don't take my message the wrong way

nah i mean there are specifically created threads (with 20+ pages each) for so many methods and for the discussion of those methods i dont see a reason why someone should create a new thread that says how to partially hang/will this be enough to hold me. they can talk here it is a forum after all but the doubling of the same posts is mega annoying and the interesting things get buried under that. i got nothing against goodbye threads, my problem is with people that post all their personal info on here (as this site gains more and more popularity, its not only the police/authority that are looking at this, there are also people that wish to hurt people on here). i think the soultion here is more intense moderation and really making sure that people are reading the rules before joining or posting. i do understand that the mods have a lot on their plates but the spam is unreal.

 

[NoHorizon]

People resorting to suicide forums are suffering enough without being told they aren't "suicidal enough" to be allowed here.

 

[Defenestration]

People resorting to suicide forums are suffering enough without being told they aren't "suicidal enough" to be allowed here.

EXACTLY

BIG THANKS

nah i mean there are specifically created threads (with 20+ pages each) for so many methods and for the discussion of those methods i dont see a reason why someone should create a new thread that says how to partially hang/will this be enough to hold me. they can talk here it is a forum after all but the doubling of the same posts is mega annoying and the interesting things get buried under that. i got nothing against goodbye threads, my problem is with people that post all their personal info on here (as this site gains more and more popularity, its not only the police/authority that are looking at this, there are also people that wish to hurt people on here). i think the soultion here is more intense moderation and really making sure that people are reading the rules before joining or posting. i do understand that the mods have a lot on their plates but the spam is unreal.

Thank you for your answer
Ok i understand your point of view better


But in 2020 there were quite a few subjects on the SN, it's not from today.

And at the Time to stopsanctionnedsuicide,it was worse, a woman took screenshots and postes them on facebook group.

Then a person in full suffering wants to create his own thread to have more answers...
Not to mention that some megathreads are dead...

If we want to be tolerant in our approach to death, we can't close the door to people just because they are not suicidal enought.


Regards

 

[ScubaCTB]

I created a profile because 1) I made the decision to CTB on January 1, and 2) I saw a story about a guy who CTB via SCUBA/nitrogen. I knew it sounded familiar to the exit bag method, which I'd never be able to do (place a bag over my head). But I can definitely put on a mask and take a few breaths. I was curious why more people weren't discussing this method as I searched for specifics as to how-to online. Other than N, it's the quickest and basically painless (if done right).

I've received valuable information here; and also good support from people who will listen to me drunkenly cry about my pathetic existence. When my time gets closer, I'll be bumping the SCUBA/nitrogen thread to make sure I'm 100% sure I'm doing it right. I truly hope and pray that I really just have to take a breath or two...and lights out.

 

[Slow_Farewell]

I created a profile because 1) I made the decision to CTB on January 1, and 2) I saw a story about a guy who CTB via SCUBA/nitrogen. I knew it sounded familiar to the exit bag method, which I'd never be able to do (place a bag over my head). But I can definitely put on a mask and take a few breaths. I was curious why more people weren't discussing this method as I searched for specifics as to how-to online. Other than N, it's the quickest and basically painless (if done right).

I've received valuable information here; and also good support from people who will listen to me drunkenly cry about my pathetic existence. When my time gets closer, I'll be bumping the SCUBA/nitrogen thread to make sure I'm 100% sure I'm doing it right. I truly hope and pray that I really just have to take a breath or two...and lights out.

Set that thread on watched just for your updates, just so you know. my method too.

 

[ScubaCTB]

Set that thread on watched just for your updates, just so you know. my method too.

I have everything now. Had to exchange the mistakenly-ordered yoke/INT regulator for the needed DIN regulator. I'm lucky the company I ordered from just swapped them out, without much fuss. I'll post photos of my adapter in the mega-thread soon so people can look at it and make sure it's right. But it seems to fit the nitrogen tank.Now I'm just waiting for this new client contract to expire in early April.

 

[struggles_inc]

People resorting to suicide forums are suffering enough without being told they aren't "suicidal enough" to be allowed here.

Apparently every movement suffers that when it gets bigger. SaSu is not a TikTok trend of course, but still there are enough people to start discriminating between. So I completely agree with your comment.

When it comes to "pro-life" (what in my opinion is not really pro-life) some users choose recovery. It's not about judging everyone for being suicidal. I understand with every fibre of my being what suicidal means. I just don't want that for myself. I bet many recovery thread users would agree. However, it doesn't mean dismissing other people's experiences and choices, CTB included.

I think there are no real pro-life users here. Moderators are quite attentive to that.

 

[DesperateOne]

I wish this was more of a safe space reserved for those who really want to die, it does feel like this site has become too mainstream now with too many pro-lifers and trolls, to me it feels like the suicide discussion is now just used as a place to post absolutely anything.

And I don't understand the people who act like suicide is easy for absolutely everyone when it clearly isn't, honestly I cannot stand ignorant people who act like if people struggle to ctb because methods are inaccessible for them or they fear suicide failing it means they don't want it enough. It feels like in the past the posts were of suicidal people and people actually wanting to die rather than this site just being like anywhere else on the internet, to be honest it feels like pro-lifers delusions are all over this site with how the word "recovery" is constantly used.

Sorry but existence is the problem, wanting to die isn't an "illness" or some kind of irrational way to feel, it disgusts me how many act like people are mentally ill for wanting to escape from this meaningless and undesirable existence that was imposed on them in the first place, I see suicide as the rational solution to prevent all future unnecessary suffering.

But honestly I'm not surprised that pro-lifers are everywhere as we exist in such a hellish life worshipping society where many humans refuse to accept that existence itself is nothing more than an unnecessary harm. Humans truly are the worst species, I'd certainly always see it as better to not exist in this evil, disgusting world, wanting to die is all that makes sense to me, it's not something to "recover" from.

Sorry, but based on your post history you don't want a safe space, but an echo chamber. Truth is a lot of people here don't really deserve to die just yet (especially lots of teenagers). A lot of them can recover with SSRI's or give time to run its course and heal their wounds. Those people deserve to get some proper responses from the users here and not be thrown into an echo chamber.

There's lots of people here as well who are fucked and those people deserve to vent, talk to people with a similar mindset and know the best way to CTB without censorship like on Reddit or other social media platforms.

Balance at the end of the day is crucial. If this forum makes a person reconsider CTBing that's great! If this forum makes another person who is truly fucked end it peacefully then that's okay as well. Blocking off opposite views just makes this place look like a cult and proves Tantacrul right, and we definitely don't want to make that guy feel validated in his authoritarian views.

 

[Kasumi]

I personally didn't meet much (or any) pro-lifers on here yet, but I feel like lately we're getting kind of flooded by people just wanting to vent or discuss their situation, which I get they may have a hard time finding even that outside of here, but that's not what the "Suicide Discussion" forum is about I think.

I just think they're in the wrong category, everyone posts everything in Suicide DIscussion and I think people should stick to the right forums more.
Perhaps it's unclear for those people where they should post their worries, since they're not actively positive-recovery minded they might not feel like they should post in Recovery, perhaps "Recovery" should be renamed to "support" or "help section".
Just to give people a place where they can ask for support, advice and vent, and don't flood the "Suicide Discussion" with that.

I have to do a lot more filtering with my eyes these days before I find any post that has discussions about what I'm looking for.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

On balance this site must be valuable to you still because you continue to use it despite repeating these same complaints every couple of weeks.

You should just try to accept it for what it is.

Ironically these kinds of threads work against your express wishes of creating a safe space.

And enough with the "really want to die". You are not the final authority on who constitutes genuine suicidal people and who doesn't.

 

[Defenestration]

And enough with the "really want to die". You are not the final authority on who constitutes genuine suicidal people and who doesn't.

This

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

I am happy with SaSu
It's not cringe like Reddit but also not an unfiltered mess like 4Chan type sites.

 

[Adûnâi]

perhaps "Recovery" should be renamed to "support" or "help section".

Or even put it to the left (because Europeans and Chinese write left-to-write)? Would be ironic to prioritise the help section - could be misconstrued as a bow to normie sensibilities, but would also make the suicide proper section less central, a win-win in a roundabout way?

 

[boddibo]

I see pro-lifers all the time saying how there "sorry life has brought you to this point etc.etc" That's pro-life bullshit. Suicide doesn't have to be sad...

Ooh that's being a pro-lifer for thinking that suicide shouldn't be anyone's option but it unfortunately is? God, I can't even show basic empathy to people I guess, I'll stop then lol