I knew a guy who died by shooting himself in the heart. How long would it have taken him to die and how painful was it?

[Mtnwildflowers]

Why didn't you interpret their blood splatter as a written DNR? Don't you have any compassion?

A suicide attempt isn't a dnr. I honestly can't believe that's a serious question about compassion. If you read my reply, it's not a health care workers job to judge and interpret each individual situation that comes in as a trauma. Answer my question..you would murder the person? That's your definition of compassion? You clearly have no idea the nature of the health care field. Trauma, suicide, car accident..you don't place judgement each situation. You don't know who acts impulsively and goes on wanting to live. Some people do. Some people don't. Again..no healthcare worker is god and yes if the person could die peacefully I'm all about that rather that shooting themselves. What brings a person in is not the judgement of a health care worker. Should I assume you would murder the person by this reply?

 

[Weebster]

A suicide attempt isn't a dnr. I honestly can't believe that's a serious question about compassion. If you read my reply, it's not a health care workers job to judge and interpret each individual situation that comes in as a trauma. Answer my question..you would murder the person? That's your definition of compassion? You clearly have no idea the nature of the health care field. Trauma, suicide, car accident..you don't place judgement each situation. You don't know who acts impulsively and goes on wanting to live. Some people do. Some people don't. Again..no healthcare worker is god and yes if the person could die peacefully I'm all about that rather that shooting themselves. What brings a person in is not the judgement of a health care worker. Should I assume you would murder the person by this reply?

Letting nature play out the simple concept of cause and effect is not bad. Humans play God by trying to save everyone.

 

[Mtnwildflowers]

Letting nature play out the simple concept of cause and effect is not bad. Humans play God by trying to save everyone.

Yea that's not how the medical field in its current state works. Blood loss was extremely minimal compared to many other traumas so interpreting through "blood splatter" is very off base. This person shot herself impulsively after a divorce and regretted it by the time she left. The problem with you thinking it's compassionate to let every suicide attempt die is that you can't know who actually does want to live. Some people truly attempt in impulsive states and actually do want to live. It's not within a health care workers knowledge to interpret that while the situation is acute. All I can say is.. Don't be found. Don't message people last minute. Let what you're doing play out naturally and don't involve the healthcare system at all is really your best bet. I'm all for being methodical in suicide planning so no one intervenes and also for people to be able to die peacefully. This person was found alive and in agony. It's not compassionate to just sit back and let some scream in agony during a failed attempt

 

[Alex6216]

Why didn't you interpret their blood splatter as a written DNR? Don't you have any compassion?

In a lot of places in the world if someone is injured you have to help them, no matter how much pain they are in or if it was a suicide or not. If you allow them to die you'll get fired and sometimes go to jail, I wouldn't even risk that chance and I doubt you would either if you were in that position

 

[Weebster]

In a lot of places in the world if someone is injured you have to help them, no matter how much pain they are in or if it was a suicide or not. If you allow them to die you'll get fired and sometimes go to jail, I wouldn't even risk that chance and I doubt you would either if you were in that position

You don't know me. You're not my real dad!

 

[Mtnwildflowers]

In a lot of places in the world if someone is injured you have to help them, no matter how much pain they are in or if it was a suicide or not. If you allow them to die you'll get fired and sometimes go to jail, I wouldn't even risk that chance and I doubt you would either if you were in that position

Exactly this. It's not about not having compassion. What I feel personally cannot override what I have to do professionally, and there are so many circumstances in which you wouldn't want people taking care of you to take out their own personal judgments and feelings on you. Keeping your personal feelings to yourself while balancing compassion with detachment is an extremely complicated issue you can't understand unless you deal with it regularly. Humans can only witness a certain amount of daily trauma before it starts effecting you negatively. You can't help people in emergent, traumatic situations if you let your feelings guide you.