ggetout33

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I hate my genetics.

I keep seeing my scalp more and more, and I lose little strands of my hair every day. My mom saw my hair was thinning. I can't let myself get bald this early in life, looks are my only shot at dating since aspergers completely fucked up my personality.

"Just shave it" and be called baldie incel the rest of my life? Fuck that. That's blatant proof my genetics suck ass and I shouldn't have been born.

If I lose my looks I may just CTB anyways out of spite towards nature. I would rather die than be an ugly freak for decades to come.

The world already sees me as a mental freak. Be a physical one on top of that? No. Not if I have anything to say about it.
 
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Most men lose their hair as they get older men, as high as 65% for much older men. If anything, keeping your hair is slightly more genetically abnormal. You can easily get a hair transplant that lasts a lifetime. The only downside is the cost being 3,000 to more than 15,000.

As for aspergers knocking you out of the dating scene, which i disagree with, why do you need someone else to live? Dating is overrated.
 
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You can get treatment hair, that's not a problem anymore, but if you haven't been with anyone so far, do you think hair is the main problem?
 
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Most men lose their hair as they get older men, as high as 65% for much older men. If anything, keeping your hair is slightly more genetically abnormal. You can easily get a hair transplant that lasts a lifetime. The only downside is the cost being 3,000 to more than 15,000.

As for aspergers knocking you out of the dating scene, which i disagree with, why do you need someone else to live? Dating is overrated.

1. I'm about to be 22. I'm trying to stay cool about it but its very upsetting since balding has been a fear of mine for years. I have seen what my face looks like shaved and it ain't good. Keeping my hair is a must.

2. I don't care much for love. But I want to get laid and know I'm attractive since porn doesn't do it anymore. I hate being a virgin.
You can get treatment hair, that's not a problem anymore, but if you haven't been with anyone so far, do you think hair is the main problem?

I think my main problem is my brain and I would bet money that in an alternate timeline where I was born neurotypical and not so genetically fucked up, I would've gotten laid several times over. But since I'm forced to play the shit cards I'm dealt, I have to lean hard on my looks to get anywhere. Fuck this Disney Hollywood "be yourself" bullshit.

I should mention that I'm American and unemployed. I have my parents insurance but I doubt it covers hair loss. I don't really trust anything prescription would fix my shit anyways. Never fixed my fucked up brain and I'm probably a mental mess for life.
 
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1. I'm about to be 22. I'm trying to stay cool about it but its very upsetting since balding has been a fear of mine for years. I have seen what my face looks like shaved and it ain't good. Keeping my hair is a must.

2. I don't care much for love. But I want to get laid and know I'm attractive since porn doesn't do it anymore. I hate being a virgin.
In my opinion, sex doesn't make you feel attractive. It's quick, gross, and over in less than 8 minutes.
I understand your frustration with yourself, and I'm sorry you feel so worthless, but thinking someone else giving you their body is in any way is a solution doesn't sound like a solution.
 
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In my opinion, sex doesn't make you feel attractive. It's quick, gross, and over in less than 8 minutes.
I understand your frustration with yourself, and I'm sorry you feel so worthless, but thinking someone else giving you their body is in any way is a solution doesn't sound like a solution.

It does when one of the big reasons why I think about CTB'ing is being seen as worthless and cast aside by most people my age. Especially since I was rated as good looking but knowing the way my brain works I will never reach that final step. I will always be just out of reach because nature decided to give me the perma-virgin gene for her own sadistic amusement. I swear my fucking autism makes a girls panties drier than the goddamn Sahara desert and I can do jackshit other than mask and pray to God himself I don't set off any NT's creep alert by giving off the slightest wiff of the 'tism. But I can't mask worth shit, I never bothered to. And people rejected me for it.

What's being "good looking" if your own goddamn shitstain excuse of a brain won't allow you to use it to it's best capacity? I'm only gonna get older and lose my looks and what will I have to show for it once I've gotten old and decided it was time to end it all?
 
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The anhedonic one

The anhedonic one

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I began to go bald aged 23. This was very disturbing because I was a heavy metal dude with long hair.
Complete male pattern baldness by age 25.
I ended wearing hats for years.
These days I don't give a fuck.
Sorry you are going through this. It's awful.
 
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In my opinion, sex doesn't make you feel attractive. It's quick, gross, and over in less than 8 minutes.
I understand your frustration with yourself, and I'm sorry you feel so worthless, but thinking someone else giving you their body is in any way is a solution doesn't sound like a solution.
I am a sex addict as I can't be without sex for many days, sex is an awesome thing and it feel like a drug if you are really good at it

The amount of sexual partners you get it's a kind of attractiveness and if you are able to get many beautiful partners then it is obvious you are attractive

Sorry sex ain't quick, gross and less than 8 minutes nah then it is not a great sex at all or you are a person who don't like sex which is totally okay

Sex is something which is so freaking good, if the people involved know what they do and able to hit the right stuffs at the right time, I just can't explain it because everyone can't experience that extreme pleasure in their life that's the reality!
 
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Me personally, I don't care as much about losing hair as I do gaining weight.
There are shaved/bald guys that look waay better than me, who probably don't have any trouble getting laid. If they want to. I don't know how all women feel but I see alot of women with bald men in public.
I only wish I was as hot as those guys. I'm not talking about super muscular but good or nice builds.
I also think confidence has alot to do with it. (I have none)
I wish you the best though. :hug:
 
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I am a sex addict as I can't be without sex for many days, sex is an awesome thing and it feel like a drug if you are really good at it

The amount of sexual partners you get it's a kind of attractiveness and if you are able to get many beautiful partners then it is obvious you are attractive

Sorry sex ain't quick, gross and less than 8 minutes nah then it is not a great sex at all or you are a person who don't like sex which is totally okay

Sex is something which is so freaking good, if the people involved know what they do and able to hit the right stuffs at the right time, I just can't explain it because everyone can't experience that extreme pleasure in their life that's the reality!

And since I'm a virgin at almost 22 I either haven't had the opportunity yet or I should CTB cause I'm unattractive.
 
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And since I'm a virgin at almost 22 I either haven't had the opportunity yet or I should CTB cause I'm unattractive.
I will trade my looks for yours. :wink:
I doubt you are as unattractive as you think. I seem to repell women as well. For me, it's probably more than looks.
I think I come off as creepy, even though I try not to. I'm not looking to get laid all the time. Even though I want to die, sex isn't the reason. I really don't want to catch any diseases either.
 
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And since I'm a virgin at almost 22 I either haven't had the opportunity yet or I should CTB cause I'm unattractive.
I know how you feel sorry life ain't fair to everyone, I was like you until I was 17 no girls want me literally disgusted of me, I was literally invisible to the girls when I was in school but I was popular among boys because I was good with grades, friendly and help other boys to get good grades

At the age of 18 I got my wake up call, girl I had crush with rejected me which changed something in my life and it turned into a revenge but not in a harmful way

I started to hit gym and took steroids (which I don't advice to anyone) at the age 20, only advantage I had was height 6ft 4 but I was built like a alien lol but gym and steroids changed me a lot, I got a good physique, more confidence and pretty much not afraid of anyone

I went back and fucked my crush who rejected me and most of the girls who look down on me at school which gave me a some kind of satisfaction, at university I had no problem because I felt like I was important to everyone which changed me into sex addict as sex became a big part of my life which made hard to find relationships because I don't get sexual feelings if I fuck the same girl again and again

My condition is worse right now as no doctor is able to help me, most of them just look at me say I have no issues just go on with my life!

Hope you get peace!
 
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It does when one of the big reasons why I think about CTB'ing is being seen as worthless and cast aside by most people my age. Especially since I was rated as good looking but knowing the way my brain works I will never reach that final step. I will always be just out of reach because nature decided to give me the perma-virgin gene for her own sadistic amusement. I swear my fucking autism makes a girls panties drier than the goddamn Sahara desert and I can do jackshit other than mask and pray to God himself I don't set off any NT's creep alert by giving off the slightest wiff of the 'tism. But I can't mask worth shit, I never bothered to. And people rejected me for it.

What's being "good looking" if your own goddamn shitstain excuse of a brain won't allow you to use it to it's best capacity? I'm only gonna get older and lose my looks and what will I have to show for it once I've gotten old and decided it was time to end it all?
But looks are very subjective, and the idea that you are found unattractive by everyone is unreasonable. The way you talk to yourself, even in your posts, shows how much hatred you have for yourself. I completely understand your frustration and I'm sorry you feel how much having autism has damaged your chances of a happy life. It's a struggle I'll never understand, but I assure you, being autistic does not eliminate you from relationships entirely.

And since I'm a virgin at almost 22 I either haven't had the opportunity yet or I should CTB cause I'm unattractive.
Being a virgin at 22 years old is not at all strange. Plenty of people are still waiting for the one at that age.
 
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I'm sorry. Autism is the reason I'm going too.

I don't why people tell you "oh just be alone, it's better that way". Connection and intimacy are very normal desires and people who don't crave those things are extremely exceptional.
 
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I'm sorry. Autism is the reason I'm going too.

I don't why people tell you "oh just be alone, it's better that way". Connection and intimacy are very normal desires and people who don't crave those things are extremely exceptional.
You're right, people who use those bland phrases have no real interest in your life, but I'm more looking at it in the sense as if you can't love yourself, how can you love someone else? I think everyone deserves the chance to experience intimacy and relationships if they're interested, but even the closest of relationships don't entirely fix personal mental issues in my opinion.
 
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Sex typically lasts from 3 to 7 minutes statistically. I envy how much enjoyment you find in it, you may actually have more sensitivity or something to make it feel better lol.

However sex life doesn't determine attractiveness in my opinion. I don't find a man who has had sex with 30 women more attractive than one who is still a virgin but likes the same cars as me.
No man is gonna say that he had sex with 30 woman to the future potential sexual partners because men biology is more wired to having sex, for a man the more beautiful sexual partners he gets it's a kind of attractiveness you can ask this to most of the men, I don't know whether you are man or woman but I am saying from my experience and my other friends who are handsome

That's why I said not everyone can experience that extreme pleasure from sex as most of the people in this world are bad in sex or don't know how to do sex properly, just fucking and ejaculating is not the real sex!

Best example is Leonardo DiCaprio lol
 
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Especially since I was rated as good looking but knowing the way my brain works I will never reach that final step.
I can understand this in a way. I'm not horrible-looking by all means, since I do make an effort to keep myself in shape, but it's essentially fruitless if I were doing it to find a partner. Looks can only take you so far if you are socially handicapped.

I'm not a guy though, so I don't care about sex. An emotional bond is a must, and if there's nobody out there who fits the bill, then I rather not do it at all.
 
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jazzcat

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I hope you know this is a bit shallow, maybe you know and don't care, in that case I guess I don't have anything valuable to say to you
being kind and funny will always be more important to me personally than having perfect hair, but no one owes you sex, and the people that are worthwhile are the ones that are willing to connect with you on a personal level regardless of your appearance
 
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I hate my genetics.

I keep seeing my scalp more and more, and I lose little strands of my hair every day. My mom saw my hair was thinning. I can't let myself get bald this early in life, looks are my only shot at dating since aspergers completely fucked up my personality.

"Just shave it" and be called baldie incel the rest of my life? Fuck that. That's blatant proof my genetics suck ass and I shouldn't have been born.

If I lose my looks I may just CTB anyways out of spite towards nature. I would rather die than be an ugly freak for decades to come.

The world already sees me as a mental freak. Be a physical one on top of that? No. Not if I have anything to say about it.
Sorry to hear that--I'm 69 and still have almost all my hair, lucky in that sense--You could always go the Joe Biden route, he was bald--But the average cost for hair transplants is $7500
 
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You're right, people who use those bland phrases have no real interest in your life, but I'm more looking at it in the sense as if you can't love yourself, how can you love someone else? I think everyone deserves the chance to experience intimacy and relationships if they're interested, but even the closest of relationships don't entirely fix personal mental issues in my opinion.
OP probably is being hard on himself as we are all prone to doing and things probably aren't as lost a cause as it seems. It's just that you can't really reach the conclusion that sex and romance are not worthwhile without having experienced them (assuming you desire them in the first place).
 
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Zegers

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But since I'm forced to play the shit cards I'm dealt, I have to lean hard on my looks to get anywhere. Fuck this Disney Hollywood "be yourself" bullshit.

I should mention that I'm American and unemployed. I have my parents insurance but I doubt it covers hair loss. I don't really trust anything prescription would fix my shit anyways.
I hear you. Life in the US seems quite complicated, I'm from South EU and i would say it's a bit more relaxed here (but you also get rejected if you don't have certain characteristics)
 
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I hear you. Life in the US seems quite complicated, I'm from South EU and i would say it's a bit more relaxed here (but you also get rejected if you don't have certain characteristics)
Lucky you lol
 
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im 21 and i can pull handfuls of hair out of the top of my head multiple times a day. its something i dreaded happening, but knew would happen eventually bc of members of my family having the same fate. ive read that finasteride and minoxidil are probably the best medications to prevent the worst of mpb, and its better to start sooner than later. im personally just gonna let it happen and eventually wear hats bc my body dysmorphia tells me i look hideous with a bald head (i shaved it once and was so insecure about how i looked i always wore a hat). my hair was always the only thing i liked about myself, it used to be so thick and resistant to any shit i put it through, now i can barely touch it. it fucking sucks. we're all just sacks of flesh that will eventually die at the end of the day so ive kind of realised theres no point in me worrying about it, but it doesnt heal the pain it causes so im sorry you have to experience that too.
 
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I hate my genetics.

I keep seeing my scalp more and more, and I lose little strands of my hair every day. My mom saw my hair was thinning. I can't let myself get bald this early in life, looks are my only shot at dating since aspergers completely fucked up my personality.

"Just shave it" and be called baldie incel the rest of my life? Fuck that. That's blatant proof my genetics suck ass and I shouldn't have been born.

If I lose my looks I may just CTB anyways out of spite towards nature. I would rather die than be an ugly freak for decades to come.

The world already sees me as a mental freak. Be a physical one on top of that? No. Not if I have anything to say about it.
Look I don't know anything for certain but in addition to everything thats happened to me in this period of my life. Where I lost everything... I was also diagnosed with dupuytren's contracture. A genetic disease. While the disease affects your hands to the point it can be quite severe.. It also has two related diseases lederhose disease where it does the same thing it does to the hands but to the feet... And also peyronies disease which affects your penis while it hasn't been outright stated nor refuted by the doctor the early age of onset may suggest this being more likely. In others words I understand.
 
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I am a sex addict as I can't be without sex for many days, sex is an awesome thing and it feel like a drug if you are really good at it
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Sex is something which is so freaking good, if the people involved know what they do and able to hit the right stuffs at the right time, I just can't explain it because everyone can't experience that extreme pleasure in their life that's the reality!
Thank you, you've made me wonder: wtf does it mean to be "really good at sex"?

I know you're busy planning... um, death :'(... so please no need to answer if you don't have time or enjoying your last moments!

Thinking about it, I imagine it's about acting on these levels:
  • Biological: Porn necessarily gets it all wrong, because of camera angles and making everything obvious for the audience's pleasure. There's more grinding pubic bones. Caressing/massaging/grabbing. Light, trivial scalp massage can be a secret weapon for some; probe partner when their head's on your chest, with your finger idly rubbing their scalp. Learn to minimize neck tension when giving skull. Stirling Cooper may be helpful here
  • Social: This is the realm of recognition, revenge & taboos. Nearby people can help you generate shock value. Recognizing your partner's qualities can help them heal
  • Psychological:Here's where porn comes in useful. Breaking taboos generates sexual interest. Probe the person beforehand. Different people desire different mix of goofiness, elegance, and brutishness
    • goofiness: Rubbing noses, silly licking, shock value. Can be like the surprise generating laughter in standup comedy, a total twisted mindfuck
    • elegance: Be direct, have slightly more silence, wear "serious passionate" mask. Possible underlying components: reduce complexity, make partner feel beautiful like elegant art
    • brutishness: Unleash the psychopath. A sense of humor is key. Often about reducing complexity for partner, by steering them. Work out social events & relations; like punish them for past criminality

[Edit]: Alexey Welsh looks like a very helpful advisor.
 
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Thank you, you've made me wonder: wtf does it mean to be "really good at sex"?
"Being good in sex" is not a one definite thing, it's a mix of different factors

For a man being good in sex is

Understanding his body and controlling his body
Understanding the partners body and communicate with them to make sure you are doing things right or not
Taking it slow and know when to be rough
Touching the right places at the right time
When doing sex look at the sex partner eyes to see whether they are enjoying or not (it may sound weird but I like looking at the partners eyes when I am doing it, if the girls eye is half closed which mean she is throughly enjoying it), more the girl enjoy in turn make me proud and I will be enjoying too because I am a pleaser, any girl I am with I like to please them in every ways
If the partner demand you for more sex which mean you are good in sex
Compliment your partner that they are doing good, have some dirty talk, little choking, gently pulling the hair all these depends on your sexual partners but I personally think every girl enjoy those things even the innocent ones!

The things above I mentioned most of the men can't do it and they struggle, those things come naturally or need practice, I would say sex is like a sport the more you do you will be good at it.

I don't watch porn, I know porn is not a single scene and it is a multiple scenes made it look like one scene using editing and other camera works but I know one thing if a guy is in porn industry, we have to accept that he is good in sex because those porn directors expect a lot of things when it comes to making the porn scenes (I am not talking about package size)
 
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i started balding when I was 20/21. I keep it very low (at 33) but I intend to go full bald in October this year. My only advice would be to maybe try to get a 'gym bod'. Personally I have gotten more reaction from women from that than with looks/hair. It also makes u stand out more as clothes really accenuate you rather than something just being used to prevent a ticket from the police lol. Gym takes time though. So don't expect overnight results. Hence my delay to bald to October.
 
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i started balding when I was 20/21. I keep it very low (at 33) but I intend to go full bald in October this year. My only advice would be to maybe try to get a 'gym bod'. Personally I have gotten more reaction from women from that than with looks/hair. It also makes u stand out more as clothes really accenuate you rather than something just being used to prevent a ticket from the police lol. Gym takes time though. So don't expect overnight results. Hence my delay to bald to October.
Gym body really helps for men who losing their hair, you can have a great body and shave or trim the head so your bald is not noticeable, that's a great idea
 
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At least you're male, I have thinning hair as a female and it is truly torture. I started wearing hats full time because people would ask me if I was going through cancer treatments. I've wanted ctb because of my hair many times because there is no possibility of it growing back without me going to the doctor, which I will not do. Fuck that. I hope you find a decision that makes you happy.
 
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At least you're male, I have thinning hair as a female and it is truly torture. I started wearing hats full time because people would ask me if I was going through cancer treatments. I've wanted ctb because of my hair many times because there is no possibility of it growing back without me going to the doctor, which I will not do. Fuck that. I hope you find a decision that makes you happy.
Idk how bad it is but does it allow for a 'boy cut' style? Some of the most attractive women I have met in life have rocked a boycott very well. To the extent that anything else (imo) will not work on them. If it does that could be an avenue that u could persue.
 
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