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SereneBeat

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Feb 14, 2019
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I hate how taboo the topic is, and how I feel I always have to censor myself while talking about it. I've recently realized that suicide is OK, and that it is an option. Life isn't mandatory, it's a choice. Living feels so strange once you realize you can leave whenever you please.

That thought has given me a feeling of relief and happiness that I haven't had a long time, if ever.
 
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Jean Améry

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I'm happy for you. "The thought of suicide is a great consolation: by means of it one gets through many a dark night" (Nietzsche).

Of course a problem arises when one's life has become one long, seemingly never-ending dark night.
 
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i understand why other people dislike it because it's something that is difficult for others understand, and it's a scary thing to think about. however i totally agree with you especially about the freedom feeling; when i finally looked at myself and made the conscious choice that i was going to commit suicide the relief i felt was immense. some people just aren't cut out for life, and just knowing we have the option makes it seem more bearable :)
 
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FTL.Wanderer

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I hate how taboo the topic is, and how I feel I always have to censor myself while talking about it. I've recently realized that suicide is OK, and that it is an option. Life isn't mandatory, it's a choice. Living feels so strange once you realize you can leave whenever you please.

That thought has given me a feeling of relief and happiness that I haven't had a long time, if ever.



Too many people have too much to lose if others believed suicide is acceptable. Governments would lose their livestock--tax payers. Corporations would lose their beasts of burden--relatively low-paid drone workers. Society would loose its untouchables--the humans who die slowly and out of sight doing all the crap no one wants to do but which make others' lives more comfortable. Militaries would their cannon fodder--the people blown up in politicians' wars. Religions would lose their tax-free dividends--those they first terrify then offer ... hope to in exchange for money and services. And the gods of our cultures, the celebrities and athletes..., would lose their worshippers--the people they pay others to shove out of their way so long as we keep feeding their egos and bank accounts.

Nope, can't have the plebes thinking suicide can be a rational choice.
 
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Too many people have too much to lose if others believed suicide is acceptable. Governments would lose their livestock--tax payers. Corporations would lose their beasts of burden--relatively low-paid drone workers. Society would loose its untouchables--the humans who die slowly and out of sight doing all the crap no one wants to do but which make others' lives more comfortable. Militaries would their cannon fodder--the people blown up in politicians' wars. Religions would lose their tax-free dividends--those they first terrify then offer ... hope to in exchange for money and services. And the gods of our cultures, the celebrities and athletes..., would lose their worshippers--the people they pay others to shove out of their way so long as we keep feeding their egos and bank accounts.

Nope, can't have the plebes thinking suicide can be a rational choice.

On top of this people also just like life and subconsciously assume that nonexistent consciousness are missing out/feel deprived of life.
 
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Me too, ever since I first found SanctionedSuicide on reddit (before reddit's bullshit censorship and banning of subreddits), I always thought that no one thought about suicide to be a rational option as the vast majority of the world and society always screams "suicide is bad" and often puts "suicide prevention" shit everywhere. Then after reddit went to shit, I found this site and I call it my secret home, away from the mad cruel world.

I also feel a sense of freedom, some fear (partly due to SI, biological, and social programming), and also some motivation to try in life since I know that "well if things are bad enough, I can always kill myself later on...". For example, a few weeks ago before I traveled, I constantly reminded myself, "if things don't work out or I don't get what I want, then I'll just kill myself a few months from March." (Luckily, things worked out well and I got what I was searching for.)
 
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Me too, ever since I first found SanctionedSuicide on reddit (before reddit's bullshit censorship and banning of subreddits), I always thought that no one thought about suicide to be a rational option as the vast majority of the world and society always screams "suicide is bad" and often puts "suicide prevention" shit everywhere. Then after reddit went to shit, I found this site and I call it my secret home, away from the mad cruel world.

I also feel a sense of freedom, some fear (partly due to SI, biological, and social programming), and also some motivation to try in life since I know that "well if things are bad enough, I can always kill myself later on...". For example, a few weeks ago before I traveled, I constantly reminded myself, "if things don't work out or I don't get what I want, then I'll just kill myself a few months from March." (Luckily, things worked out well and I got what I was searching for.)

I'm so glad things worked out for you. I've really liked a lot of your posts here.
 
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I hate how taboo the topic is, and how I feel I always have to censor myself while talking about it. I've recently realized that suicide is OK, and that it is an option. Life isn't mandatory, it's a choice. Living feels so strange once you realize you can leave whenever you please.

That thought has given me a feeling of relief and happiness that I haven't had a long time, if ever.
Yeah me too. IMO it's just a matter of time before it becomes legalized for anyone to exit life for any reason as long as they are over 18. And if they are under 18 they can get it done for medical reasons like in Belgium. Belgium is pretty close to what I just described.
 
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Jean Améry

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Too many people have too much to lose if others believed suicide is acceptable. Governments would lose their livestock--tax payers. Corporations would lose their beasts of burden--relatively low-paid drone workers. Society would loose its untouchables--the humans who die slowly and out of sight doing all the crap no one wants to do but which make others' lives more comfortable. Militaries would their cannon fodder--the people blown up in politicians' wars. Religions would lose their tax-free dividends--those they first terrify then offer ... hope to in exchange for money and services. And the gods of our cultures, the celebrities and athletes..., would lose their worshippers--the people they pay others to shove out of their way so long as we keep feeding their egos and bank accounts.

Nope, can't have the plebes thinking suicide can be a rational choice.

Nicely put. Not to mention the mental health industry would fall apart. With their abysmal track-record and damaging pseudo-treatments who would bear a life of mental suffering when there was a quick and legal exit?

"those they first terrify then offer ... hope to in exchange for money and services." That pretty much describes psychiatry which to me is nothing but a secular religion: first they terrify people by telling they have a terrible disease of the mind then they offer a solution which is of course nothing more than a placebo so the sheep keep coming back wanting, actually wanting to be fleeced.

There is no real treatment for mental suffering besides numbing agents, spirituality (which may very well be a placebo and an illusion aswell but usually perfectly harmless), time, change and death.

Of course if psychiatry would ever present death as a solution they would quickly be out of business. Hence the incessant, baseless claim that suicidal ideation is part of depression: as if a possible solution to one's problems can ever be the problem in and of itself.

They actually present the case that there's a mysterious force that wants to kill you from within... We have turned full circle: mental illnesses = possession by evil spirits. Psychopathology is a pseudoscience and the successor of demonology. On this front we've returned to the dark ages.

'Mental health' is nothing more than being productive, consuming, paying taxes and being content enough with one's lot to go to work the next day, consume, pay taxes etcetera. Life is but an endless stream of buying things, worry, toil and trouble repeated ad nauseam untill one is no longer useful economicaly and fiscally at which point one may, if lucky, be allowed to die humanely. But not before, oh no!

If you want out it will be through agony and horror: that is what society wants for those who have the gall to want to escape the materialistic and hedonistic paradise society deems itself. Which is why they hate us, want to imprison us, abuse and take away the means to live or die freely. If they can't physically restrain us they want us to suffer horrendously before succumbing to death or even better fail and end up disfigured or handicapped so they can show us to the world as a terrifying warning of what happens to those that want to escape.
 
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If you want out it will be through agony and horror: that is what society wants for those who have the gall to want to escape the materialistic and hedonistic paradise society deems itself. Which is why they hate us, want to imprison us, abuse and take away the means to live or die freely. If they can't physically restrain us they want us to suffer horrendously before succumbing to death or even better fail and end up disfigured or handicapped so they can show us to the world as a terrifying warning of what happens to those that want to escape.

Shhhhhh! The vast majority of depressed or suicide people agree with the unsubstantiated and unsubstantiable value-judgments-cum-diagnoses of the mental health industry. Try asking any of them--the professionals, the publishing scholars, or the faithful lay--for supporting hard biomedical evidence. Nothing. Yet the hypotheses are "true." Mind-boggling.
 
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Janica333

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Too many people have too much to lose if others believed suicide is acceptable. Governments would lose their livestock--tax payers. Corporations would lose their beasts of burden--relatively low-paid drone workers. Society would loose its untouchables--the humans who die slowly and out of sight doing all the crap no one wants to do but which make others' lives more comfortable. Militaries would their cannon fodder--the people blown up in politicians' wars. Religions would lose their tax-free dividends--those they first terrify then offer ... hope to in exchange for money and services. And the gods of our cultures, the celebrities and athletes..., would lose their worshippers--the people they pay others to shove out of their way so long as we keep feeding their egos and bank accounts.

Nope, can't have the plebes thinking suicide can be a rational choice.


What you say is 100% right.

In some countries if you join to Christian church you must pay taxes for it every year all your life. You get to only be buried in church land (not even close to church anymore and your ashes can be put there anyways) and that's it. ;/

By the way Bible don't say that suicide is a sin or wrong. In my opinion it was seen in original Bible ( I have read straight translation of it) as a total trust in God and a rational and only choice for those that enemy would have captured and hurt.
 
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Jean Améry

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Shhhhhh! The vast majority of depressed or suicide people agree with the unsubstantiated and unsubstantiable value-judgments-cum-diagnoses of the mental health industry. Try asking any of them--the professionals, the publishing scholars, or the faithful lay--for supporting hard biomedical evidence. Nothing. Yet the hypotheses are "true." Mind-boggling.

Sure. Because psychiatry is clever enough to operate under the guise of medicine and medicine is rightfully regarded as a science-based discipline which actually is of great help to humanity. Freud, Bleuler, Kräpelin a.o. weren't idiots. Of course this doesn't mean psychiatry is actually a part of medicine and therefore scientificaly informed.

That and the fact that people are generally rather gullible. Especially those who are suffering: they want to believe there is help and balm for their pain and who can blame them? I used to be one of them: believing I really was ill and specialized doctors were the only ones who could help me. This turned me into a passive victim (the sick role) used for their guinnea pig experiments and robbed of the best years of my life.

At one point a modern day Dr. Mengle even pushed antipsychotics on me even though I never displayed any signs of so called 'psychosis' and only sought help for my emotional suffering. The result: I went completely out of my mind and ended up hurting myself rather badly. Which is something I'd never done before, save one suicide attempt which I had reason to believe (based on the information I had at the time) would kill me. I wasn't really sick but the scum made me sick and utterly demoralized.

Gods, I'm still so fucking angry at the bastard and the whole sick system allowing him to thrive. I ought to have killed him, I'd have done the world a favour although in all likelihood I would ended my days in the psychiatric ward of some prison.

Of course there is no known pathophysiology behind the ficticious concept of 'mental illness' and there never will be: as soon as it were found that certain behaviours now deemed 'mental illnesses' actually do have biological causes they will be diagnosed and treated by neurology, not psychiatry.

To be fair there are some professionals in that field that actually do combat the folly of psychiatry and its gross mistreatment of its innocent victms: the late great Dr. Szasz, Dr. Breggin, Dr. Moncrieff, professor Kirsch...

They are true heroes of humanity in my book.
 
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By the way Bible don't say that suicide is a sin or wrong. In my opinion it was seen in original Bible ( I have read straight translation of it) as a total trust in God and a rational and only choice for those that enemy would have captured and hurt.

Hmph! If I'd known that or been brave enough to confront it when I used to go to church, I'd have committed suicide in high school. I like the idea you present--"a total trust in God." I wish now I'd committed suicide immediately after my (adult) baptism. Can you imagine it? Thanks for this imagery. :)
 
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Janica333

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That's how I see it but every Christian should read it themselves.

I mean there are few stories of people who killed themselves in the Bible and there is absolutely nothing negative said about it. It was written as a rationale choice in situation without other escape. For example in cases of Samson and high rank soldier and his arms carrier. They killed themselves because the enemy was going to catch and hurt them (Samson was captured already but not bound so that he couldn't do it and kill enemies with him). Soldier asked arms carrier to kill him and then himself as he did for loyalty.
There is nothing to implie that they would have done anything wrong.

Judas killed himself as for redemption and because he couldn't live after betraying Jesus. In Old Testament law it is said life for a life. If you cause someone's ( who wants to live) death accidently or in purpose you must pay it with your life (unless deceased persons family don't accept other retribution).

But don't end your life because of Bible. I just think that if someone believe that Bible is God's word then it can't be changed and believers should read straight translation of the ancient bible. In these days Bible is different in every country why it is hard to understand with many contraditions.

I think it's sad that people use it for their own benefit and change it for their needs.
I'm happy that you didn't. You seem young who have hope for the better in life and I am sure you will get it if you just hang in there.

I can understand it when there is no hope like with people who are dieing, have terminal disease, paralysed or people with excruciating pain without any relief who spend their whole life in bed, innocents who have gotten life in jail and faught hard in court and always lost, mother who lost her only child etc.

But I haven't walked in other peoples shoes so I am not judging anyone. I can't know and feel the pain you have and I might react same way if I would.

I, like I bet all in here, wish that all people here would try to get through their troubles because life can be really good also and at least we care about you. Here and elsewhere you can get friends who go through with same staff and understand.
 
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Cookiedough8956

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Lets just all go to Switzerland. lol

Nah, but I understand. If you're not careful with ur words your gonna be put in a situation much worse. I hate how its a hidden topic- and get judged whenever talking about it.
It is a choice - its our bodies, our minds, we do what we please with ourselves.

Too bad society isn't pro-choice. Evil bastards.
 
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I'm so glad things worked out for you. I've really liked a lot of your posts here.
Thank you @Meretlein

@Janica333 That is interesting that the Bible never outright claimed that suicide is a 'sin'. As an atheist, that does make me feel some relief and knowing that most churches and religious people have misinterpreted the Bible to fit what society is going on, yet when questioned or challenged, they often resort to illogical fallacies and apologetic bullshit.

@Jean Améry Wow, so psychiatry is basically some fake science that cleverly snuck into real science and grew after religion's grip on society slowly waned away. I'm sorry to hear about your experiences by that doctor and yes forced treatment is cruel and inhumane, especially based on what you've described.

Lets just all go to Switzerland. lol

Nah, but I understand. If you're not careful with ur words your gonna be put in a situation much worse. I hate how its a hidden topic- and get judged whenever talking about it.
It is a choice - its our bodies, our minds, we do what we please with ourselves.

Too bad society isn't pro-choice. Evil bastards.
Tbh, sometimes I do fantasize about some insurgency/freedom fighter force coming and exacting 'justice' against the people who are responsible for creating the suffering that most of us go through, including forced hospitalization, forced medical bills from said treatments and detainment, and other horrible shit that goes around.

Note: I'm not advocating for violence nor condoning violence against innocent people.
 
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I hate how taboo the topic is, and how I feel I always have to censor myself while talking about it. I've recently realized that suicide is OK, and that it is an option. Life isn't mandatory, it's a choice. Living feels so strange once you realize you can leave whenever you please.

That thought has given me a feeling of relief and happiness that I haven't had a long time, if ever.
First and foremost, suicide is not irrational, none of us chose to be here,
Some of us have very little control if any over how our life will turn out.
Continuing to be miserable, having to follow societal rules based on money, religion, status, politics, expectations of others.....
That's irrational.
The want, the need for peace within one's self is about as rational as it gets.

Everyone wants freedom, everyone seeks freedom, in death freedom reigns.
Someone else dictated your birth into this life, nothing free about that.
Those that choose to make death by self a taboo topic, are not free by any means.
Those of us who can openly talk about it...
Well, I consider us free.
 

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