Discussion I hate how misunderstood we are

[sohopelessandempty]

Long post but I hope somebody reads the whole thing and understands:
I feel like no "normal" people can truly understand suicidal people which makes sense however some of the things I've seen and heard piss me off so much. I know this video was years ago but do you guys remember the one YouTube video about this site that blew up? Some of the comments make me so mad and remind me that most people don't understand. I could go on and on about why this place is misunderstood and why it gets a bad reputation and I also understand why but pushing all of that aside, people don't get how hard it really is to kill yourself. I saw them talking about one of the members here who is always posting about wanting death(that is what this place is for after all) and claiming they weren't truly suicidal if they haven't done it yet. I just got here so not sure if this person actually encouraged anyone, we all have free will and nobody should force anyone to do anything but what I meant is that people claimed because that person kept talking about suicide instead of actually doing it, they must not really want to die and are just trying to convince others to do it. I saw a comment that even said if that person has so many posts, not only are they not actually suicidal but they just want others to be. If anyone actually encouraged others to ctb obviously that's bad but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about how even in a place meant to talk about these things, non-suicidal people still judge us and claim if we really want to die we'd have done it already. But it's not as easy as it sounds and nobody seems to get that except the people here. For example, most people want to be rich but most of them aren't. Does this mean they don't truly want it? No. And people don't go accusing them of not truly wanting to or else they'd just become rich because the world is unfair and doesn't work like that. People can understand that, but apparently the idea that just because someone wants to die doesn't mean they can is something so hard to grasp for others. And then I get paranoid, what if just like those comments treated that one member, if I stay on this site for a while and have a lot of posts people will think the same about me. They don't understand. Anyways sorry for long rant I'm just a paranoid person.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

It shouldn't be hard for people to understand that there are levels to suicidality and that those levels can fluctuate. Still, it's easy to be judgmental about something you haven't experienced. And yeah, working up the courage to die is pretty fucking hard. I've been here a long time. Some days I feel like I can make it for another couple of years, other days I feel like I'm right on the edge of a cliff, and any little thing is going to push me over. It's ok to be here, stuck in limbo. I don't really give a fuck what anyone thinks about my post count.

 

[sohopelessandempty]

It shouldn't be hard for people to understand that there are levels to suicidality and that those levels can fluctuate. Still, it's easy to be judgmental about something you haven't experienced. And yeah, working up the courage to die is pretty fucking hard. I've been here a long time. Some days I feel like I can make it for another couple of years, other days I feel like I'm right on the edge of a cliff, and any little thing is going to push me over. It's ok to be here, stuck in limbo. I don't really give a fuck what anyone thinks about my post count.

YES THE LIMBO THING TOO!!! People can't seem to grasp that either. I think for many people it fluctuates, and that's one of the most "normal" parts of being suicidal. Normal in quotes since wanting to die isn't considered a normal thing in general.

 

[just_a_guy]

We're the ones cast aside, we're Christo in the movie "The Beach". We spoil their fun and perception, we don't fit their mold for the happy consumer oblivious of the dark realities we carry.

 

[sohopelessandempty]

We're the ones cast aside, we're Christo in the movie "The Beach". We spoil their fun and perception, we don't fit their mold for the happy consumer oblivious of the dark realities we carry.

Ignorance really is bliss, but I can't force myself to ignore how terrible the world truly is. It seems to seep out everywhere.

 

[just_a_guy]

Ignorance really is bliss, but I can't force myself to ignore how terrible the world truly is. It seems to seep out everywhere.

Exactly, once you see, you can't stop seeing.

 

[Arvayn]

Most people are taught very strong and dogmatic morals about the value of life and the moral wrongness of suicide.

Truthfully, I think there are very few people who truly want to die and to completely annihilate themselves regardless of what staying alive would entail, as opposed to people who just want their suffering to end and see suicide as the only remaining means to achieve that. The former people do exist, though.

Either way, nobody wants to accept suicide as a permissible act or desire because they're too deterred by their own fear and they don't know how to truly put themselves in the suicidal person's shoes. You'd need to have experienced it yourself at some point to be capable of that.