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borderline-feline

Constantly Sleepy Catgirl
Dec 28, 2022
646
Dysphoria is bad enough, but even with the amount of progress I've made in my transition, I still have to live in a world filled with braindead assholes who go out of their way to treat others like shit.

People tell me that I shouldn't give transphobes the satisfaction of my death, but I'm not gonna exist to give a shit about what horrible people are feeling. I'd rather just get rid of my suffering and let the bad people who hate me for existing stay alive and miserable. After all, it's clear that they're miserable. It takes a really pathetic kind of person to harbor hate toward other people for the way that they were born.
 
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Szinuus

Szinuus

I see the bus...I can almost see it
Aug 19, 2022
211
Everyone has the right to end their life, whenever they want. If you feel that being trans is too much for you, just end your suffering.
 
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Mlee75

Mlee75

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Jan 2, 2023
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Dysphoria is bad enough, but even with the amount of progress I've made in my transition, I still have to live in a world filled with braindead assholes who go out of their way to treat others like shit.

People tell me that I shouldn't give transphobes the satisfaction of my death, but I'm not gonna exist to give a shit about what horrible people are feeling. I'd rather just get rid of my suffering and let the bad people who hate me for existing stay alive and miserable. After all, it's clear that they're miserable. It takes a really pathetic kind of person to harbor hate toward other people for the way that they were born.
Do you have any ability to move to an accepting community? If it is all possible, can you set a goal for yourself to do so? If that is not in the cards, you can use reverse psychology and just be so darn nice that it's hard not to like you. People will find a way though. Some people are just hateful.
Do you have any ability to move to an accepting community? If it is all possible, can you set a goal for yourself to do so? If that is not in the cards, you can use reverse psychology and just be so darn nice that it's hard not to like you. There is a book called , " How to Win Friends and Influence People". Some people will always be hateful and will find reasons to judge because that's who they are.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
12,153
I'm sorry. Yeah- I never really get the whole- carry on living to spite the people that bully you thing. Like they particularly even care either way! I mean- sure- if you (actually want to carry on living anyway and) can grow a few layers of extra skin so that their taunts don't get to you anymore and maybe find some way of non malliciously making them feel bad- then great- but how many people in this state get to a point where they can achieve that? Or, even want to? It's just always seemed an odd argument. I'm sorry you are experiencing this.
 
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wait.what

no really, what?
Aug 14, 2020
994
People are the fucking worst. I'm sorry bullying has driven you to this point. I'm trans too, and while I've had the privilege of largely being left alone about it, it may not matter in the end, since I've certainly got enough other hobgoblins with their metaphorical thumbs crushing my windpipe.

Hit me up if you like, either here or via pm. I've been around a lot lately, so I should see it.
 
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WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
2,431
Being trans sucks, especially if you do not pass (well). In an ideal world, everyone would have been born the correct sex.

I cannot relate beyond being born the wrong sex as i refuse to transition and take hrt, but I am sorry things are not working out for you.
 
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borderline-feline

Constantly Sleepy Catgirl
Dec 28, 2022
646
Do you have any ability to move to an accepting community? If it is all possible, can you set a goal for yourself to do so? If that is not in the cards, you can use reverse psychology and just be so darn nice that it's hard not to like you. People will find a way though. Some people are just hateful.
It's not a matter of living in an accepting community, although I'm not able to move anyway. The things that get me down are things that people say about trans people as a whole. I spend most of my life on the internet because I hate being part of the world, and it keeps me from just sinking into maladaptive daydreaming.

As for the idea of being nice, I'm not exactly a good person, so I don't see "killing them with kindness" as a viable option. I avoid people because my mood swings and uncontrollable anger make it easy for me to do and say things I don't mean.

I also avoid people to avoid forming bonds with anyone. Friendship is bad for my health.
Everyone has the right to end their life, whenever they want. If you feel that being trans is too much for you, just end your suffering.
I want to catch the bus, but I also have a lot of doubts because I can't break the promise I made to my favorite person that I wouldn't kill myself or self-harm.
 
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MissRevlon

MissRevlon

Member
Jan 4, 2023
15
The worst part about this life is having to deal with evil and rude people. Life would be so much better without them really. Stay strong my friend :/
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
43,370
I really do think that humans are responsible for so much of the unnecessary suffering that sadly exists in this world, it really is such a cruel and horrific world where people are treated this badly by others. No wonder so many wish to ctb.
 
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LastFlowers

the haru that can read
Apr 27, 2019
2,170
Dysphoria is bad enough, but even with the amount of progress I've made in my transition, I still have to live in a world filled with braindead assholes who go out of their way to treat others like shit.

People tell me that I shouldn't give transphobes the satisfaction of my death, but I'm not gonna exist to give a shit about what horrible people are feeling. I'd rather just get rid of my suffering and let the bad people who hate me for existing stay alive and miserable. After all, it's clear that they're miserable. It takes a really pathetic kind of person to harbor hate toward other people for the way that they were born.
I hate when people put the burden of blame on those in your position that way.

The word "let" especially is overused in this manner. As if reacting to any slight, misery, prejudice, unfair circumstance, abuse is always the victim "letting" it get to them.

In your case "give"…but you are not "giving" these transphobic people their satisfaction, they are giving it to themselves by having nothing else worthwhile to do besides investing in hatred of those who commited no crime besides being reasonably and terribly uncomfortable in bodies that they had absolutely no say in.

You deserve to feel relief and peace with the flesh you reside in, as unfortunately this is what us humans are identified with and what we are stuck with all our lives, to filter ourselves through.
I know sometimes even when physical changes are made..the world will still come down on those who don't conform in the way that makes others happy.

Just today I saw a comment (among many similar ones) about how someone felt overwhelming "dissonance" simply because they couldn't stand that an actor they considered unattractive got the adapted role of a character they did consider attractive.
Their brain apparently couldn't handle it, they started to project all types of other justifications and assumptions about personality and ability (based solely on how the person appeared) onto their dissatisfaction in order to make their gripes seem more palatable.
I responded and asked them what the fuck type of "dissonance" do they think the actor feels in their own skin, after likely encountering all this horrible commentary.
..And I know it's much of the same for many in your situation.
Other people need to get the fuck over themselves and their inability to digest what isn't even their problem to have to navigate.

I am very sorry that despite your progress in your journey, you are still having to put up with any negative reactions or mistreatment.
That must be incredibly exhausting and defeating.
Do you have any ability to move to an accepting community? If it is all possible, can you set a goal for yourself to do so? If that is not in the cards, you can use reverse psychology and just be so darn nice that it's hard not to like you. People will find a way though. Some people are just hateful.
I think unless you find an impenetrable bubble, no place or community is going to be immune to this type of shit, especially if you ever want to travel or so much as use the internet.

Being overly nice can lead to resentment and bottling up emotions that then lead the person to eventually snap.
It can also give bullies and abusers the wrong impression, that what they're doing is acceptable and that their victim is a doormat who can be walked all over.

Though I can't say that I haven't done what you suggest myself, doesn't end well in my experience. Very very rarely does it actually somehow touch the person being cruel in a way that makes them question their behavior and biases.

And like you said, people still find a way to be shit.
That's humanity for you.
 
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Mlee75

Mlee75

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Jan 2, 2023
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It's not a matter of living in an accepting community, although I'm not able to move anyway. The things that get me down are things that people say about trans people as a whole. I spend most of my life on the internet because I hate being part of the world, and it keeps me from just sinking into maladaptive daydreaming.

As for the idea of being nice, I'm not exactly a good person, so I don't see "killing them with kindness" as a viable option. I avoid people because my mood swings and uncontrollable anger make it easy for me to do and say things I don't mean.

I also avoid people to avoid forming bonds with anyone. Friendship is bad for my health.

I want to catch the bus, but I also have a lot of doubts because I can't break the promise I made to my favorite person that I wouldn't kill myself or self-harm.
Well, you can't break the promise to your friend and you're going to be here for a while, then maybe it's time to try to swing your thinking around a little, so that your life isn't so painful in the meantime. I know it's impossible to completely reverse perspective but try the little things to give yourself a break from pain. You can revisit it later. Maybe an LGBTQ center is available to connect with like-minded people? I wish you the best
 
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NHLTradeRumor

wow life sucks
Dec 13, 2022
106
I pass pretty much 100% of the time, but once someone finds out I'm trans they'll usually treat me worse or see me as a "freak". Even if they are accepting, they see me... differently as they would if I was a cis woman. People really do suck, and being trans is not easy, it really really isn't.
 
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Mlee75

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Jan 2, 2023
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I pass pretty much 100% of the time, but once someone finds out I'm trans they'll usually treat me worse or see me as a "freak". Even if they are accepting, they see me... differently as they would if I was a cis woman. People really do suck, and being trans is not easy, it really really isn't.
Well yeah. That's life. You don't have to be friends with them. Their opinions don't need to count. Trans people are attacked and made fun of, assaulted... I think it would be beneficial to contact a queer Center and connect with people who are dealing with similar feelings. I think you'd be surprised at the number of people who can relate. You have accepted the fact that you are trans, that comes with a lot of baggage, there are people who have been in your situation who can help you navigate. Trans is a relatively easy type of personhood to find connections with others, with a lot of resources out there depending on your country. If you try, I think you will find others you can relate to, with similar feelings. Some things don't need to be over thought and just acted on. But that is just my chime in. I know a couple transsexuals so it's something that is somewhat close to my heart. But you're going to do you, the choice is up to you
 
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NHLTradeRumor

wow life sucks
Dec 13, 2022
106
Well yeah. That's life. You don't have to be friends with them. Their opinions don't need to count. Trans people are attacked and made fun of, assaulted... I think it would be beneficial to contact a queer Center and connect with people who are dealing with similar feelings. I think you'd be surprised at the number of people who can relate. You have accepted the fact that you are trans, that comes with a lot of baggage, there are people who have been in your situation who can help you navigate. Trans is a relatively easy type of personhood to find connections with others, with a lot of resources out there depending on your country. If you try, I think you will find others you can relate to, with similar feelings. Some things don't need to be over thought and just acted on. But that is just my chime in. I know a couple transsexuals so it's something that is somewhat close to my heart. But you're going to do you, the choice is up to you
I would consider doing that, but I live in the middle of nowhere Colorado, so the nearest LGBT center is probably 5 hours away in Denver. That being said, I'm going to college in a week, and that could be a good place to connect with people who actually can relate.
 
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Mlee75

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Jan 2, 2023
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I would consider doing that, but I live in the middle of nowhere Colorado, so the nearest LGBT center is probably 5 hours away in Denver. That being said, I'm going to college in a week, and that could be a good place to connect with people who actually can relate.
Oh yes! I can 100% guarantee you that joining up with the college queer group will give you a leg up on those that have no peer group to join starting College. Things are going to change for you
 
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borderline-feline

Constantly Sleepy Catgirl
Dec 28, 2022
646
Well, you can't break the promise to your friend and you're going to be here for a while, then maybe it's time to try to swing your thinking around a little, so that your life isn't so painful in the meantime. I know it's impossible to completely reverse perspective but try the little things to give yourself a break from pain. You can revisit it later. Maybe an LGBTQ center is available to connect with like-minded people? I wish you the best
I wouldn't say that "friend" is quite the correct word. He's more than that, and I don't just mean the fact that we're romantically involved. When I say that he's my "favorite person", I mean that I'm completely incapable of functioning without him and fear that if I broke the promise and failed to catch the bus, then he'd leave me. If that happened, I'd have nothing holding me back, and suicide would be my only option, but I still can't bear the thought of that abandonment.

Enough people have left me in my life that if he left me, then I'd just get the shotgun out of the garage. I'd rather go in a more peaceful manner than a gunshot, but at that point, I'd stop caring.

I'm not exactly comfortable with going to any kind of center. I get nothing but patronizing responses from people who claim to support people like me. I don't exactly fit in in any kind of LGBT group despite being a bisexual trans woman, because I have gynophobia (which causes me to loathe my attraction to other women) and because so-called activists would rather see me suffer than get some kind of release from my pain.

Trans suicides are absolutely a big issue since a lot of trans people who don't truly want to die get backed into a corner, but people can't seem to understand that some of us genuinely want to die. People are so focused on preventing death that they completely overlook quality of life and prioritize human life over bodily autonomy.

I also know that it wouldn't help. Even if I found community, I'm completely incompetent and unlikeable. I don't have a future, because I can't do anything right. It's only a matter of time before I end up with no options.
I pass pretty much 100% of the time, but once someone finds out I'm trans they'll usually treat me worse or see me as a "freak". Even if they are accepting, they see me... differently as they would if I was a cis woman. People really do suck, and being trans is not easy, it really really isn't.
I'm the same way. I apparently look just like a cis woman (based on what I've been told) as long as I'm wearing clothes, but people just treat me differently if they know I'm trans. I want the world to view me as a cis woman. Even if I mention certain things to people who don't know I'm trans, like that I've been surgically sterilized, they react in ways that make me regret opening my mouth.
 
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OutOfTheVoid

she/her
Feb 10, 2023
199
Dysphoria is bad enough, but even with the amount of progress I've made in my transition, I still have to live in a world filled with braindead assholes who go out of their way to treat others like shit.

People tell me that I shouldn't give transphobes the satisfaction of my death, but I'm not gonna exist to give a shit about what horrible people are feeling. I'd rather just get rid of my suffering and let the bad people who hate me for existing stay alive and miserable. After all, it's clear that they're miserable. It takes a really pathetic kind of person to harbor hate toward other people for the way that they were born.
honestly i kinda relate. tho i love being trans, i hate existing in a system that not only constructed the gender binary but is built entirely on oppression and cruelty. i want to say that we should continue living to fight for liberation. but are we obligated to do so? is it wrong or selfish to prefer to die?

it would be more accurate to say that capitalism and patriarchy and transphobia are murdering trans people, than to call it "trans suicide". its a trans genocide. if i were to ctb, my blood would not be on my hands, but on the hands of the oppressors and abusers that make life so miserable i want to fucking die.
 
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card1nal

card1nal

trying to find peace by whatever means possible :)
Jan 23, 2023
72
I love being trans, but I hate how people treat me for being so. I haven't come out to my family yet because I am 100% sure that I'd be cut out of my siblings' lives. They're some of the only people I'm living for, so I'm forced to stay in the closet! Being trans, for me, is a neverending cycle of being liked or loved at first, revealing my identity, and then being hated. It's heartbreaking to live in a world with so many people hating you, wishing death upon you, and wanting you to suffer just for being trans.
 
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Mikan3

Mikan3

Member
Nov 8, 2019
14
Being trans sucks, especially if you do not pass (well). In an ideal world, everyone would have been born the correct sex.

I cannot relate beyond being born the wrong sex as i refuse to transition and take hrt, but I am sorry things are not working out for you.
why don't you want to transition? at least taking hrt made my life much more bearable even if i'm not going to transition
 
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nixdeath

Member
May 3, 2022
93
I hate it too
 
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Kattt

Banned
May 18, 2021
796
Never be ashamed of who you are. You are unique and wonderful. I guarantee there are others who will feel the same way about you.
Many hateful people can only feel good about themselves by demeaning those around them. They should be pitied. They turn into those bitter, lonely old gits who yell at kids and kick dogs. You know that ones I mean.
Are you attending the gender clinic? It doesn't have to be for any medical interventions if you're not ready, or interested in that. They offer access to therapists who have special interest in working with people like us. I'm not trans btw. Always been androgynous though. An "Mx" officially. My niece is trans, so it's not an alien concept. Science validates our identification.
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borderline-feline

Constantly Sleepy Catgirl
Dec 28, 2022
646
Never be ashamed of who you are. You are unique and wonderful. I guarantee there are others who will feel the same way about you.
Many hateful people can only feel good about themselves by demeaning those around them. They should be pitied. They turn into those bitter, lonely old gits who yell at kids and kick dogs. You know that ones I mean.
Are you attending the gender clinic? It doesn't have to be for any medical interventions if you're not ready, or interested in that. They offer access to therapists who have special interest in working with people like us. I'm not trans btw. Always been androgynous though. An "Mx" officially. My niece is trans, so it's not an alien concept. Science validates our identification.
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It's nothing to do with being ashamed of myself. It's the discomfort with my body. It's just wrong, and I need to fix the male aspects of my body in order to feel more comfortable in my own skin.
 
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weightedrocks

Trans Woman trying her best.
Jan 20, 2023
38
Dysphoria is bad enough, but even with the amount of progress I've made in my transition, I still have to live in a world filled with braindead assholes who go out of their way to treat others like shit.

People tell me that I shouldn't give transphobes the satisfaction of my death, but I'm not gonna exist to give a shit about what horrible people are feeling. I'd rather just get rid of my suffering and let the bad people who hate me for existing stay alive and miserable. After all, it's clear that they're miserable. It takes a really pathetic kind of person to harbor hate toward other people for the way that they were born.
I love you sis. It's a terrible world out there for us trans women and there's so much hate and bigotry. People hate us and murder us for existing, but it's the best time in history for us. We can transition and there are people who accept us out there.

Our misery should drive us to making a better world for us, to make sure no trans women have to go through what we went through.

Much love girl 💕 we are going to make it!
 
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borderline-feline

Constantly Sleepy Catgirl
Dec 28, 2022
646
I love you sis. It's a terrible world out there for us trans women and there's so much hate and bigotry. People hate us and murder us for existing, but it's the best time in history for us. We can transition and there are people who accept us out there.

Our misery should drive us to making a better world for us, to make sure no trans women have to go through what we went through.

Much love girl 💕 we are going to make it!
I do always appreciate the sisterhood. I'm hopeful that I'll be able to have "the big surgery" in 2024. I count my blessings for the fact that I have good insurance from my job. The world is scary in general tho, so I tend to be more pessimistic. That said, I may have a metric fuckton of mental issues, but ever since the 31st of January, I have nice tits, so that's an improvement in my life at least.
 
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Kattt

Banned
May 18, 2021
796
It's nothing to do with being ashamed of myself. It's the discomfort with my body. It's just wrong, and I need to fix the male aspects of my body in order to feel more comfortable in my own skin.
I hope you are able to access the services necessary to achieve that. For most of my life, policy knew my mind better than me. They refused to consider a female eligible for interventions until at least the age of 45. Because she will want more children (irrespective of what she says or how many children she already has) and would be unhappy if she couldn't. Now it's a minimum 3 year wait for an initial appointment at the gender clinic, that is 150 miles away. So still not exactly accessible. I believe that we are born with a limited number of fucks to deploy. I was frivolous and just don't have any to give any longer. I probably wouldn't even notice if an arm fell off. Getting old has some positives.
 
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WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
2,431
why don't you want to transition? at least taking hrt made my life much more bearable even if i'm not going to transition

This is just my personal list of reasons, and should not influence whether someone else wants to transition, or whether someone is satisfied with transitoning.

1. I find scarring gross. Prob going to have a nasty scar on my crotch from it
2. I wanted to have been a female start to finish. Starting in my 30s when I am 10 years away from when I would have CTB'd anyways is entirely pointless. Yeah, I would have CTB'd in my 40s as a cis female because aging is unappealing to me.
3. I would not likely pass, because I cannot afford all of the important surgeries (bottom surgery, facial femininization surgery, vocal cord surgery etc.) And as mentioned, my own self image is a big reason why I hate being a male, and it wouldn't be much better as a trans woman who doesn't pass all that well
4. These invasive procedures take 5 years. I can't even bare being alive day by day. I am sure as heck not willing to spend another 1000+ days alive for a result that is dubious at best.
5. 20s and early 30s are the best years of young womanhood. I am in my mid 30s. I'll be in the tail end of my 30s by the time I finish complete transitioning (best case scenario anyways)
6. I wanted to be born female from the start so I could have the full female upbringing
7. I dont like the idea of having my body needing to be modified by surgery

For me, it simply isn't good enough and doesn't make up for the fact that I wasn't born the correct sex from the very beginning.
 
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BasqueClown

BasqueClown

Zirkua ata heriotza
Jun 9, 2022
121
I'm cis woman and I understand how difficult are to be trans.
I dated a trans woman in Brazil and, in a moment of despair, she confessed to me her suicidal thoughts and we cried together. Then she told me that she didn't kill herself not to want to really do it, and only because she didn't want to for "Not having to give the right to the idiots of right wing transphobic who repeat the 41% thing"
That commentary shocked me. As a lesbian myself - and being suicidal too -, that terrified me since she wasn't the only trans person who thinks similar, and since then I'm an ally and anti terf.
I don't know your gender/pronouns but in any case you're not alone. If you want to be venting with me you're welcome.
 
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Finn_tasia

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Feb 8, 2023
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I'm a trans-mac nonbinary person in the UK. Watching your very existence being debated is so dehumanising. I relate to a lot of what you say. We live in a world of bigots & people who never learned to just let people be. We aren't hurting anyone.

Much love girl ✨
 
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borderline-feline

Constantly Sleepy Catgirl
Dec 28, 2022
646
I'm a trans-masc nonbinary person in the UK. Watching your very existence being debated is so dehumanising. I relate to a lot of what you say. We live in a world of bigots & people who never learned to just let people be. We aren't hurting anyone.

Much love girl ✨
My favorite person (I have borderline personality disorder) is actually a trans man who lives in England. He's told me about how insane the wait lists are to see an endo for HRT. I've also noticed how a lot of the really vocal people from the UK who call themselves "feminists" are TERFs, and my favorite person calls the UK "TERF Island", so I feel bad for you on that.

America is still pretty awful about this stuff, but we've been getting more protections (at least in the state where I live [a blue state]), so I just keep hoping that people will start getting the right impressions about trans people by just talking to us instead of listening to people who don't even understand what being trans actually is. I'd absolutely be willing to sit down with someone who's really ignorant about trans issues to talk to them about my experiences and perspectives over a beer. I haven't done that though, because I almost never leave my house for anything but work, so I don't really know anyone (outside of a coworker or two) who's significantly uninformed on this stuff.
 
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Feb 8, 2023
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Yep. Definitely TERF Island rn. I've been waiting 3 years to start low dose T and try and get top surgery. I'm way too poor to go private. And I've pretty much given up on it happening tbh now they've scrapped the biggest gender clinic in England and not provided a suitable alternative. (Doesn't help on top of the pre existing bpd/cptsd and occasional psychotic delusion...)

I feel you. I wish some of these people would just stop and pause to listen. Really listen, to what trans and trans fem/trans masc people are saying. Being trans or trans fem/masc in this world is harrrrd. No one is doing it for shits and giggles are they 😅
 
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