I hate being a man

[Volo vent]

I have spend vast majority of my life trying to get my shit together and try to man up because thats what i was teached but its never going to work simply because normal men dont feel disgust about their bodies everything about being a man is disgusting to me and everything i want is inside the castle of feminity to which i hold no key to get in what a disgusting existence

 

[ApparentlyNot]

Gender affirming care is a necessity for many. You are not alone. Is transitioning not an option for you?

 

[im here i guess]

I am a trans girl, so I very much understand. all I can think to say is that I'm sorry you feel this pain, you aren't alone.

 

[jazzcat]

I'm sorry you're feeling this way, do you live somewhere where you could explore existing in a more traditionally feminine body? also, in my mind at least there is no key to femininity, if you feel like a woman you have the right to call yourself a woman and that's about it, but body dysmorphia is very real, and there's things you can do to alter your appearance and be more comfortable with yourself
I wish you the best of luck

 

[toofargone6969]

I hate being a woman
its horrible

 

[istheretrulyalife?]

Now, I'm not trying to discouraged you at all! But transitioning isn't something that can be reversed. Will you feel the same 5 years from now? 10 years? If you go through surgery and HRT i don't know of any methods to reverse it.

Again, im not bigoted or anything (people like throwing that word around) i have just seen far too many people who rushed to transition and regret it 5 years later.

Do whatever feels right for you, im just a stranger on the forum. Best wishes.

 

[MrDarkness]

Being a Man, is what society expect men to, strong, tough, not emotional. There is nothing wrong with being weak and having a big heart, your a human, not a machine made for people's own take, that's why people that do the sigma male shit, are just frauds using fame for money, being a man is being a human, having a heart. Not an ego

 

[Volo vent]

I'm sorry you're feeling this way, do you live somewhere where you could explore existing in a more traditionally feminine body? also, in my mind at least there is no key to femininity, if you feel like a woman you have the right to call yourself a woman and that's about it, but body dysmorphia is very real, and there's things you can do to alter your appearance and be more comfortable with yourself
I wish you the best of luck

Im stuck living as a dude and try anthing outside that frame sill ruin even more my life

 

[WorthlessTrash]

I feel the same way. I wish i was born female start to finish. Transitioning doesnt sound like a suitable fix. Idk why most people assume its the silver bullet for dysohoria.

 

[alonely]

everything i want is inside the castle of feminity to which i hold no key to get in

genuinely would like to know what you would want from the castle of feminity. both to understand your story more, but also maybe there's something that i, as a female, would find useful if i have access to it.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

genuinely would like to know what you would want from the castle of feminity. both to understand your story more, but also maybe there's something that i, as a female, would find useful if i have access to it.

You havent asked me but to answer from my pov, beauty.

 

[Volo vent]

genuinely would like to know what you would want from the castle of feminity. both to understand your story more, but also maybe there's something that i, as a female, would find useful if i have access to it.

Mainly not having to confort with the preasures of be the leading strong factor that society waits you to be females can express sofness and feelings without horrible backlash and the second being a bettee spot of male attencion, im not atracted to women physically or romantically and i have had screw all my relationship with women over this issiue,come out a gay person would finish my life and on top of that i have never been atracted to a gay person but to a lot of former school and work mates and it just filled me with despair to know that only because i was born with the wrong genitalia its just soo awfull even when men can do very bad things to women i seen how they can do wonderfull things for them? But for people like me ? "Faggots are gross and belong on hell" itd what i have hear all my life only women have the right to feel atraccion towards men without the world comming after them

 

[alonely]

You havent asked me but to answer from my pov, beauty.

I wish I had beauty. Unfortunately it's something completely out of a person's control, how beautiful they are. I think we both look at attractive women and wish we could have more of their naturally attractive and feminine features...

Mainly not having to confort with the preasures of be the leading strong factor that society waits you to be females can express sofness and feelings without horrible backlash and the second being a bettee spot of male attencion, im not atracted to women physically or romantically and i have had screw all my relationship with women over this issiue,come out a gay person would finish my life and on top of that i have never been atracted to a gay person but to a lot of former school and work mates and it just filled me with despair to know that only because i was born with the wrong genitalia its just soo awfull even when men can do very bad things to women i seen how they can do wonderfull things for them? But for people like me ? "Faggots are gross and belong on hell" itd what i have hear all my life only women have the right to feel atraccion towards men without the world comming after them

I'm sorry about all of the struggles you've faced from being born in the wrong body and with anti-lgbt people. I just don't get why people are so obsessed with what other people want for themselves for their bodies and sexualities.

Grass isn't always greener on the other side in terms of gender expectations. I certainly hear you and see how being expected to be strong and emotionless would be awful and I certainly wouldn't want that. By contrast, women are often faced with not being listened to or heard when it comes to leadership. Our ideas are not heard, and we do not matter. I've been laughed at and told I'm being stubborn and rude just for trying to speak up and contribute. Grass isn't a lot greener, but i agree here that it is easier to sit down and shut up like we're expected to rather than having to work to be a strong leader.

Being more "socially acceptable" to open up about emotions is a plus for women. Getting anyone to listen is near fucking impossible though, let alone actually having any helpful outcome. It can almost feel more isolating to pour your heart out to be met with silence and awkwardness, than to keep it all in. I have lost friends and relationships over being too open about emotions. In some ways, I envy that men don't have that problem of losing friends over emotions, though I recognize that it makes for surface-level connections. I have begged men to open up to me about things but they refuse. I wish they would, I want to understand, it would make things so much more straightforward.

This turned into an unhelpful ramble, sorry. I wish gender expectations were more equal and balanced overall.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

I wish I had beauty. Unfortunately it's something completely out of a person's control, how beautiful they are. I think we both look at attractive women and wish we could have more of their naturally attractive and feminine features...


I'm sorry about all of the struggles you've faced from being born in the wrong body and with anti-lgbt people. I just don't get why people are so obsessed with what other people want for themselves for their bodies and sexualities.

Grass isn't always greener on the other side in terms of gender expectations. I certainly hear you and see how being expected to be strong and emotionless would be awful and I certainly wouldn't want that. By contrast, women are often faced with not being listened to or heard when it comes to leadership. Our ideas are not heard, and we do not matter. I've been laughed at and told I'm being stubborn and rude just for trying to speak up and contribute. Grass isn't a lot greener, but i agree here that it is easier to sit down and shut up like we're expected to rather than having to work to be a strong leader.

Being more "socially acceptable" to open up about emotions is a plus for women. Getting anyone to listen is near fucking impossible though, let alone actually having any helpful outcome. It can almost feel more isolating to pour your heart out to be met with silence and awkwardness, than to keep it all in. I have lost friends and relationships over being too open about emotions. In some ways, I envy that men don't have that problem of losing friends over emotions, though I recognize that it makes for surface-level connections. I have begged men to open up to me about things but they refuse. I wish they would, I want to understand, it would make things so much more straightforward.

This turned into an unhelpful ramble, sorry. I wish gender expectations were more equal and balanced overall.

I think even average/below average looking women are pretty tbh. I'd take being either over being a guy.... :/

 

[BruceWayne]

being a man, we should be strong. not for others but for our own sake. people will always treat us like shit no matter what. i have been in the army and i have worked as a fireman. at 28, i am unmarried and feel like my life has finished but as men, there is a reason why our suicide attempts are more successful than womens. we are kill or be killed. strike the heart, sweep the leg. who is going to carry the boats? us

 

[angel31]

Now, I'm not trying to discouraged you at all! But transitioning isn't something that can be reversed. Will you feel the same 5 years from now? 10 years? If you go through surgery and HRT i don't know of any methods to reverse it.

The regret rate on gender affirming surgery is one of the lowest, with only 1%. For reference, the regret rate for cancer treatment surgery is 6%…

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Lawmakers often cite concerns about young people regretting irreversible body-altering transgender medical treatment, but studies suggest regret is uncommon.

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being a man, we should be strong. not for others but for our own sake. people will always treat us like shit no matter what. i have been in the army and i have worked as a fireman. at 28, i am unmarried and feel like my life has finished but as men, there is a reason why our suicide attempts are more successful than womens. we are kill or be killed. strike the heart, sweep the leg. who is going to carry the boats? us

Please… this is not the place for this.

 

[BruceWayne]

The regret rate on gender affirming surgery is one of the lowest, with only 1%. For reference, the regret rate for cancer treatment surgery is 6%…

How common is transgender treatment regret, detransitioning?

Lawmakers often cite concerns about young people regretting irreversible body-altering transgender medical treatment, but studies suggest regret is uncommon.

apnews.com

Disconnect Between Expectations and Outcomes: Major Factor in Treatment-Related Regret Among Patients With Localized Prostate Cancer

“A disconnect between patient expectations and outcomes” is a major contributor to treatment-related regret among patients with localized prostate cancer, according to a study published in JAMA Oncolo...

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Please… this is not the place for this.

i don't understand what you mean by "this is not the place for this"

i am simply telling OP the brutal truth about being a man. i have seen young men blown apart by homemade potato bombs and babies being burned alive to the couch while i hear the mother scream outside the house for us to help.

no one ever asked me how i am despite hearing their screams in my dreams or a thank you for your service. i work a job sitting in a desk 9-5 selling shit to people that they don't need. life gets worse for men.

life won't get easier for you and it gets worse as you get older unless you become the 5% that become a multimillionaire.

becoming trans won't help either and no offense , it stems from realising you can't be a man properly so you decide to become a woman and expect people to take care of you. its an extreme form of self loathing and there are people who are trans that actually feel they are women,, this is not it

 

[angel31]

becoming trans won't help either and no offense , it stems from realising you can't be a man properly so you decide to become a woman and expect people to take care of you. its an extreme form of self loathing and there are people who are trans that actually feel they are women,, this is not it

This transphobia+misogyny is exactly what i mean. U clearly have no clue about trans people so please just let the topic be so this forum can stay a safespace.

 

[BruceWayne]

This transphobia+misogyny is exactly what i mean. U clearly have no clue about trans people so please just let the topic be so this forum can stay a safespace.

i have no idea about being trans right. but op is a MAN. and i am a MAN. so i will respectfully tell him my experiences and universal truth about MEN. he is not a trans yet atleast. no offense intended, but in order to have a productive conversation sometimes you have to risk being offensive/offended.

 

[angel31]

i have no idea about being trans right. but op is a MAN. and i am a MAN. so i will respectfully tell him my experiences and universal truth about MEN. he is not a trans yet atleast. no offense intended, but in order to have a productive conversation sometimes you have to risk being offensive/offended.

Like I said u have no clue about trans issues etc. ur not only trans if u have undergone gender affirming surgery. Being trans isnt a choice and it isnt smth that just "starts". Im sry but u have no clue so just leave it here. And I dont what OP identifies as, but from his post I would guess not a man, and u should guess the same. So I would ask u to try not misgendering them, since that can be really damaging…

 

[Volo vent]

being a man, we should be strong. not for others but for our own sake. people will always treat us like shit no matter what. i have been in the army and i have worked as a fireman. at 28, i am unmarried and feel like my life has finished but as men, there is a reason why our suicide attempts are more successful than womens. we are kill or be killed. strike the heart, sweep the leg. who is going to carry the boats? us

Yeah it sucks i was also on the army for conscripcion because the shithole where i live still has that archaic practice it was a horrible experience i dont know never liked being a boy and the more i growed up that disgust towards masculinity and manhood just grew and i started to hate my body even more, i would never attempt to become trans simply because it would sent my life down the sewer its all soo disgusting i have just come to feel that enjoy things and be happy is reserved to women only

 

[HopefulSleep]

I like your profile picture, I have to play system shock 2 again, great game taste.
Sorry for being off topic.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Unfortunately, the Future is Female. We men aren't needed anymore. Time to hang up our hats, boys, and let women do the blue collar work.

 

[Obliviate]

It's unfortunate that a lot of males don't realize that the patriarchy and sexism that they created is directly harmful for them too. Hope you find inner peace.

 

[Dot]

becoming trans won't help either and no offense , it stems from realising you can't be a man properly so you decide to become a woman and expect people to take care of you. its an extreme form of self loathing and there are people who are trans that actually feel they are women,, this is not it

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[SolomonKado]

My daughter lives with her mom in west coast and visits me during the summers in the mid-west. We tried having her opposite the time and my daughter hated it here. She loved being with me because I'm open minded and I teach her life skills, but being Non-Binary in a small farm town in the mid west is a bad mix.
She found one friend in high school who was like her and very self reserved and others made fun of her or just stared. I also know the collective mentality here and it's not pro LGBTQ, but we are raised that anyone not straight man or woman will burn in the fires of hell.
I got into an argument with my sister over something her pastor said in preaching. Her husband is also against AA because they don't agree with "you can believe in anything", but they do that to not scare you and get Addicts and Alcoholics in the door. Her church would rather you be straight before they help you. I thought Jesus was kind to everyone! No matter what/who you were. I've looked in the New Living Translation Bible and searched online for anything against LGBTQ and found nothing! Even nothing against taking your own life. I understand in the old version of the Bible there was, but Jesus restarted the whole thing.
I'm super sorry for bringing religion into this. In my heart I am against nobody and neither was Jesus.