I feel like sweetner_nk has showed us the most peaceful way of hanging

[happysunnydayy]

What you guys think about this method?

she just took alot of benzos which she was prescribed to for anxiety with alcohol and with noose around her neck until she passed out on the rope from the concoction and died that way. Also I feel like lots of Xanax or any benzo mixed with alcohol is already a dangerous combo so that'd further increase her chances of ctbing.

I cannot see how that'd even fail. Seems pretty legit and peaceful. She didn't even know she was dying.

her video

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/suicide/post/523077/japanese-fan-of-korean-boy-band

 

[ctb_warrior]

What you guys think about this method?

she just took alot of benzos which she was prescribed to for anxiety with alcohol and with noose around her neck until she passed out on the rope from the concoction and died that way. Also I feel like lots of Xanax or any benzo mixed with alcohol is already a dangerous combo so that'd further increase her chances of ctbing.

I cannot see how that'd even fail. Seems pretty legit and peaceful. She didn't even know she was dying.

her video

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/suicide/post/523077/japanese-fan-of-korean-boy-band

I think that's a good way to suppress SI

 

[happysunnydayy]

I think that's a good way to suppress SI

yeah she made it look so easy

 

[Fadenself00_]

Tragic that she ctb because of bullying and that situation.. ;(

But that seems like a pretty good method, yes

 

[ctb_warrior]

yeah she made it look so easy

Yeah

 

[happysunnydayy]

Tragic that she ctb because of bullying and that situation.. ;(

But that seems like a pretty good method, yes

yeah no SI.. seems legit

 

[Casoperso]

are you sure she passed out because of benzos+alchol? because it's hard to tell

but if that's the case it's a great method and should be possible to do it also with gas like helium that make you pass out

 

[infinitesimal]

its really sad that the circumstances pushed her to pursuing ctb, she had a lot ahead of her and i wish it didnt turn out this way... sick world. i hope she found peace now.

but in a sick way it has given me hope that psh can work out, she looked so peaceful going out. might consider as a method. seems legit to me

 

[komakun]

its really sad that the circumstances pushed her to pursuing ctb, she had a lot ahead of her and i wish it didnt turn out this way... sick world. i hope she found peace now.

but in a sick way it has given me hope that psh can work out, she looked so peaceful going out. might consider as a method. seems legit to me

her video made it look so easy, it completely shifted me towards psh + sedatives beforehand. im just gonna figure out how to replicate her positioning

 

[happysunnydayy]

are you sure she passed out because of benzos+alchol? because it's hard to tell

but if that's the case it's a great method and should be possible to do it also with gas like helium that make you pass out

most likely. she could barely walk. She took alot of meds

 

[Intoxicated]

most likely. she could barely walk. She took alot of meds

That sounds like wishful thinking. Many people seem to overestimate the speed of transition from the wakeful state to unconsciousness after taking oral sedative drugs. Even relatively fast-acting pentobarbital (when administered orally) doesn't cause passing out in just 2 seconds after an apparent transition to unconsciousness begins.

Spoiler: Video of passing out from pentobarbital

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/suicide/post/23496/michle-causse-assisted-suicide-scene-from

Most likely, the girl passed out from hanging, while partial sedation helped to reduce discomfort.

 

[happysunnydayy]

That sounds like wishful thinking. Many people seem to overestimate the speed of transition from the wakeful state to unconsciousness after taking oral sedative drugs. Even relatively fast-acting pentobarbital (when administered orally) doesn't cause passing out in just 2 seconds after an apparent transition to unconsciousness begins.

Spoiler: Video of passing out from pentobarbital

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/suicide/post/23496/michle-causse-assisted-suicide-scene-from

Most likely, the girl passed out from hanging, while partial sedation helped to reduce discomfort.

Nope. She was drunk too

 

[Intoxicated]

Nope. She was drunk too

Doesn't matter. I saw people way more drunk than her, and they were still awake and reacting on disturbance.

 

[sorrymommy]

Doesn't matter. I saw people way more drunk than her, and they were still awake and reacting on disturbance.

What exactly do you think happened to make her lose consciousness so quickly?

 

[Intoxicated]

What exactly do you think happened to make her lose consciousness so quickly?

Strictly speaking, we don't know when exactly consciousness was lost. Loss of bodily control typically happens first, consciousness goes next. From the video shown above it's not entirely clear whether she fell because she didn't want to apply a sufficient effort for standing or because she wasn't able to stand regardless of possible wishing to apply maximum effort for standing. In either case, it's probable that some gradually fading consciousness was present for a few seconds after the drop, and the main cause of LOC was hypoxia. The drugs and alcohol could serve a contributing factor, which could speed up LOC a bit.

 

[happysunnydayy]

Strictly speaking, we don't know when exactly consciousness was lost. Loss of bodily control typically happens first, consciousness goes next. From the video shown above it's not entirely clear whether she fell because she didn't want to apply a sufficient effort for standing or because she wasn't able to stand regardless of possible wishing to apply maximum effort for standing. In either case, it's probable that some gradually fading consciousness was present for a few seconds after the drop, and the main cause of LOC was hypoxia. The drugs and alcohol could serve a contributing factor, which could speed up LOC a bit.

it was peaceful that's all that matters. The meds etc helped her with si I can see. being high does help alot especially Xanax od

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Now I understand this video, I was wondering what made her drop in the noose.
In my opinion a very risky method, you need a sober mind when you hang yourself. Otherwise you may botch the process and have to live with severe injuries.

 

[Intoxicated]

it was peaceful that's all that matters.

If by "peaceful" you mean "without much discomfort and in a manner that doesn't look awful for an observer", then I can agree. The given method doesn't look "the best" though. I think that gas asphyxiation (especially with nitrous or expensive xenon) could produce better sedation and analgesia than Xanax + alcohol and make the experience of hanging more comfortable.

I'd also mention that alprazolam or other benzodiazepines may be very difficult to obtain in some countries. In the US, Xanax seems to be prescribed by doctors as easily as vitamins, but in some other places, such medication is considered too heavy and typically prescribed as the last resort (besides, even if you get your prescription for a benzodiazepine there, you have to find a specific pharmacy to obtain the drug, since most local pharmacies may simply not sell benzodiazepines at all).

The meds etc helped her with si I can see. being high does help alot especially Xanax od

I think, some people can commit suicide without having troubles with anxiety or second thoughts (which are presented as "SI" here) regardless of whether they're completely sober or under influence of meds or other form of sedation.

Now I understand this video, I was wondering what made her drop in the noose.

I wonder if it could be that little pressure on the neck she apparently applied before the drop.

 

[3FailedAttemptss]

I've tried using benzos to suppress SI to making CTBing easier but everytime I just black out TwT

Maybe i didn't time it right?

 

[Captive_Mind515]

If by "peaceful" you mean "without much discomfort and in a manner that doesn't look awful for an observer", then I can agree. The given method doesn't look "the best" though. I think that gas asphyxiation (especially with nitrous or expensive xenon) could produce better sedation and analgesia than Xanax + alcohol and make the experience of hanging more comfortable.

So do you think a set up with scuba/scba mask could be a viable option combined with partial? Or would the pressure of the ligature on the back of the mask possibly cause the mask to lose its seal?

It would remove the need for a chair and restraints like in the Gasmonkey setup. Plus maybe add an extra failsafe in case there was some sort of failure in the system after LOC. Also would give someone more options in terms of ctb location as you now just need to find a suitable anchor point.

 

[AreWeWinning]

Most likely, the girl passed out from hanging, while partial sedation helped to reduce discomfort.

I think this is the correct answer.

Strictly speaking, we don't know when exactly consciousness was lost. Loss of bodily control typically happens first, consciousness goes next. From the video shown above it's not entirely clear whether she fell because she didn't want to apply a sufficient effort for standing or because she wasn't able to stand regardless of possible wishing to apply maximum effort for standing.

I think it's the latter: "she wasn't able to stand regardless of possible wishing to apply maximum effort for standing". That's when she lost consciousness. After the drop, her face muscles were completely motionless. This is a clear sign that she was unconscious. Sedatives and alcohol or not, she was showing facial expressions in the first half of the video, but after the drop, her face was completely expressionless.

I wonder if it could be that little pressure on the neck she apparently applied before the drop.

I'm pretty sure she dropped into the noose because of the pressure she applied initially, which caused cerebral hypoxia and loss of muscle control. Somehow, she applied just enough pressure to block the carotid arteries enough to lose muscle strength. Once this happens, the pressure on the neck increases even further, and there is no way back. It can happen extremely quickly, and the video is a good example of this. (By the way, she used a fixed loop, not a noose, but this is beside the point.)

There is also the video of the Syrian girl on YouTube. I think the commentator gets it slightly wrong, or at least it's unclear what he means exactly. I believe she didn't "allow herself to drop". She just got over the threshold where she was unable to stand anymore. At this moment, things start to happen extremely quickly: the pressure on the neck increases further, the neck arteries get completely blocked, and the person "drops". It happens in an instant.

Imagine this process like going down a progressively steeper slope (like the one in the image). You can go down a certain distance, but if you go too far, you just slide down and fall. It happens extremely quickly, and you can't save yourself or do anything about it. Obviously, during hanging, people don't fall into pits. I'm just using this example as an illustration that there is a snowball effect. In hanging, the more you lean into the noose, the further down the slope you go, so to speak. Beyond a certain point, you'll just drop into the noose whether you want it or not.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I think this is the correct answer.



I think it's the latter: "she wasn't able to stand regardless of possible wishing to apply maximum effort for standing". That's when she lost consciousness. After the drop, her face muscles were completely motionless. This is a clear sign that she was unconscious. Sedatives and alcohol or not, she was showing facial expressions in the first half of the video, but after the drop, her face was completely expressionless.



I'm pretty sure she dropped into the noose because of the pressure she applied initially, which caused cerebral hypoxia and loss of muscle control. Somehow, she applied just enough pressure to block the carotid arteries enough to lose muscle strength. Once this happens, the pressure on the neck increases even further, and there is no way back. It can happen extremely quickly, and the video is a good example of this. (By the way, she used a fixed loop, not a noose, but this is beside the point.)

There is also the video of the Syrian girl on YouTube. I think the commentator gets it slightly wrong, or at least it's unclear what he means exactly. I believe she didn't "allow herself to drop". She just got over the threshold where she was unable to stand anymore. At this moment, things start to happen extremely quickly: the pressure on the neck increases further, the neck arteries get completely blocked, and the person "drops". It happens in an instant.

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Imagine this process like going down a progressively steeper slope (like the one in the image). You can go down a certain distance, but if you go too far, you just slide down and fall. It happens extremely quickly, and you can't save yourself or do anything about it. Obviously, during hanging, people don't fall into pits. I'm just using this example as an illustration that there is a snowball effect. In hanging, the more you lean into the noose, the further down the slope you go, so to speak. Beyond a certain point, you'll just drop into the noose whether you want it or not.

By the way, she used a fixed loop, not a noose, but this is beside the point

what do you mean by a "fixed loop"?

i agree with what you and @Intoxicated said . i think she applied enough pressure on her neck or carotids to pass out and then she feel unconscious.

was she on her toes or flat footed and then just slightly let pressure on her neck by lowering her body down a tiny bit to apply pressure on her neck?

what mm width rope is best ?

it seemed painless to me . what do you all think ?

@Captive_Mind515 if you make the rope almost taut , so that if you bend your knees a little the weight is held a lot by your neck : i guess it's almost impossible to get out of i you put an exit bag or scuba mask on and then put yourself into the noose then pass out and fall into the noose?

 

[AreWeWinning]

By the way, she used a fixed loop, not a noose, but this is beside the point

what do you mean by a "fixed loop"?

By "fixed loop", I mean a loop that doesn't tighten when load is applied. She just made a fixed knot in the rope that stayed in place. A noose, by definition, tightens around an object when load is applied. Her loop didn't do that and didn't tighten around her neck.

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was she on her toes or flat footed and then just slightly let pressure on her neck by lowering her body down a tiny bit to apply pressure on her neck?

I'm not exactly sure what the question is. You're looking at the same video as me, so you can see what she did. :) I think she leaned a bit forward initially, and when she lost consciousness, she just fell straight downward. I don't know why she fell so much. It was probably due to rope stretch.

what mm width rope is best ?

If you're looking for a simple answer: 12 mm (or 1/2 inch), made of polypropylene (PP) or polyester (PES).

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On an unrelated note, here is another post about her death which includes the full-length stream and a detailed description of what led to her suicide.

 

[Intoxicated]

So do you think a set up with scuba/scba mask could be a viable option combined with partial?

I think, that should be a viable option. But if the goal is only to induce unconsciousness ASAP, then 3 - 5 deep breaths from a balloon (or 2 ballons) should suffice. This would be significantly more simple and cheaper, which can be important factors for many people.

In either case, it should be kept in mind that loss of bodily control (which would cause collapsing) happens before complete loss of consciousness, so some discomfort from the pressure on the neck probably cannot be entirely excluded.

Or would the pressure of the ligature on the back of the mask possibly cause the mask to lose its seal?

Based on a few videos of people wearing SCUBA and SCBA, it looks like at least particular models of such devices shouldn't interact with the loop if it's made self-tightening and it's not overly thick. But I'd assume that there may exist models that could be less appropriate (e.g. if they cover the upper part of the neck, where the loop should be placed.

 

[qetyioxz]

People mocking her on wpd..

 

[Aren]

Strictly speaking, we don't know when exactly consciousness was lost. Loss of bodily control typically happens first, consciousness goes next. From the video shown above it's not entirely clear whether she fell because she didn't want to apply a sufficient effort for standing or because she wasn't able to stand regardless of possible wishing to apply maximum effort for standing. In either case, it's probable that some gradually fading consciousness was present for a few seconds after the drop, and the main cause of LOC was hypoxia. The drugs and alcohol could serve a contributing factor, which could speed up LOC a bit.

Hello, i read all the messages of this thread but i have one question because i am not sure to understand and i can't watch these type of video, it scares me.
Some people in this thread talk about leaning and other falling. I understood she took benzo and alcohol. Same for the noose, i understood she made a loop so i don't understand how it can apply enough pressure.
Can you tell me the steps she follow to make it please ? Because I'm a little bit lost in all the informations.
And if someone else want to explain me too it's ok. Thank you

 

[happysunnydayy]

Now I understand this video, I was wondering what made her drop in the noose.
In my opinion a very risky method, you need a sober mind when you hang yourself. Otherwise you may botch the process and have to live with severe injuries.

Botch how? Everything was set up she just had to get to the noose.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Botch how? Everything was set up she just had to get to the noose.

It could happen that she passes out before the noose is around her neck and adjusted. Worst case, the noose is around her head at nose level.

 

[whywereyouborn]

I've tried using benzos to suppress SI to making CTBing easier but everytime I just black out TwT

Maybe i didn't time it right?

thinking of doing this with SN. what time do u usually take the benzos? if it's Xanax

 

[3FailedAttemptss]

i took an hour before i think, honestly cant remember qwq but it might be different with xanax since it hits faster iirc :3