i feel like pro lifers are jealous of us

[ineverlived]

clearly not all of them but i actually think many of them are jealous of us because they don't have the courage to accept the facts like we do and they just try to pull us down to live the same misery as they do, so they don't feel bad about themselves. i believe deep down they are aware of it but they suppress it just like secret gays are homophobic. I don't really care, but it drives me crazy that if my attempt fails they will force me into a ward.

 

[FuneralCry]

Yes, I think you are right. I do not understand how anyone could be pro life in a world where so much pain exists, things could easily get so much worse for anybody. Life is objectively so horrifying. It is so cruel and unfair how people want to deny others the option of a peaceful exit and they try to force others to live against their wishes. Pro life really is pro suffering.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

It's the opposite they enjoy watching you suffer. It shatters their dumb delusions

 

[Musketeer]

Yes, I think you are right. I do not understand how anyone could be pro life in a world where so much pain exists, things could easily get so much worse for anybody. Life is objectively so horrifying. It is so cruel and unfair how people want to deny others the option of a peaceful exit and they try to force others to live against their wishes. Pro life really is pro suffering.

Life is suffering no matter how you slice it. so being pro life is by it's very nature pro suffering.

 

[Lebensunwertes]

No, they don't, lol. They have different mindset in which they are able to justify extending life just for the purpose of extending it. To quote Richard H. Seiden, "Suicide troubles and appalls us because it so intransigently rejects our deeply held conviction that life must be worth living." They are not jealous of the supposed courage to end life, but appalled by the idea that somebody would voluntarily give up on life itself.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

No, they don't, lol. They have different mindset in which they are able to justify extending life just for the purpose of extending it. To quote Richard H. Seiden, "Suicide troubles and appalls us because it so intransigently rejects our deeply held conviction that life must be worth living." They are not jealous of the supposed courage to end life, but appalled by the idea that somebody would voluntarily give up on life itself.

I have to agree. However this is because they are delusional

 

[Seeking_Peace]

I disagree about the jealousy part. I was pro life when I was 18. Fast forward to now, I'm pro ctb. A lot has changed since then.

When I was younger, life felt endless, health was 100, no worries in the world. Now, my health is bad and more cons than pros.

It's hard for people who have great health and life to understand the act of ctb. Once the darkness comes, and it will for every individual, views can change.

 

[befree]

I think pro lifers are never 100% pro lifers. I think there are reasons for every person to commit suicide in their life. Listen to people. How often do they say "I would commit suicide, if ......... happens". Everyone has reasons in a certain situation. As long as the person is happy, he doesn´t think about suicide. But if something really bad happens......

 

[hankbank3928]

I think they are jealous of us because deep down, they know life sucks too.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

I think they are jealous of us because deep down, they know life sucks too.

I don't think they are jealous lol I think they are happy it isn't them

 

[Seeking_Peace]

I think pro lifers are never 100% pro lifers. I think there are reasons for every person to commit suicide in their life. Listen to people. How often do they say "I would commit suicide, if ......... happens". Everyone has reasons in a certain situation. As long as the person is happy, he doesn´t think about suicide. But if something really bad happens......

Happy is the key word. Also, I feel like if someone can have a way to hide negatives in their mind and live in the moment is crucial. Stay busy without too much time to reflect.

 

[Ligottian]

Suicide reminds some people that things could some day get that hellishly awful for them.

 

[Shu]

clearly not all of them but i actually think many of them are jealous of us because they don't have the courage to accept the facts like we do and they just try to pull us down to live the same misery as they do, so they don't feel bad about themselves. i believe deep down they are aware of it but they suppress it just like secret gays are homophobic. I don't really care, but it drives me crazy that if my attempt fails they will force me into a ward.

Are they trying to pull us down? Or are we trying to pull them down? Are they jealous of us? Or are we jealous of them? Are most of them living in misery? Or is it us that is living in misery?

I have to agree. However this is because they are delusional

Just because someone is happy and living a good life does not make them delusional. I honestly don't know where people are getting these ideas from.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

Are they trying to pull us down? Or are we trying to pull them down? Are they jealous of us? Or are we jealous of them? Are most of them living in misery? Or is it us that is living in misery?

Just because someone is happy and living a good life does not make them delusional. I honestly don't know where people are getting these ideas from.

Actually that's true there are succesful
People living a nice life however they still are aware of nature my mistake

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Nature isn't really the be all end all to one's happiness and being happy of it despite what happens in nature does not make one delusional.

The thing about anti-choicers (there is a slight diff between these and pro-lifers) is these people believe life is worth living bc they dont go through nearly the amount of stuff we do. They are not jealous and don't want to be in our situation, nor should anyone want to be.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

Nature isn't really the be all end all to one's happiness and being happy of it despite what happens in nature does not make one delusional.

The thing about anti-choicers (there is a slight diff between these and pro-lifers) is these people believe life is worth living bc they dont go through nearly the amount of stuff we do. They are not jealous and don't want to be in our situation, nor should anyone want to be.

Agreed they aren't jealous they look down on us

And that's the truth

 

[Seeking_Peace]

Agreed they aren't jealous they look down on us

And that's the truth

It happens all the time. I've met people who were pro life to the max, crucifying pro ctbers, to only support ctb when their lives and health turned to crap a decade later. That's one thought that always stuck with me is never judge someone because you might be in that dark room one day... Compassion would be a stronger tool for them to use.

 

[Shu]

Agreed they aren't jealous they look down on us

And that's the truth

I have many friends that are happy. Many that are pro-life. They do not look down upon anyone who is suicidal. It's mainly the extremely religious ones that look down upon people who are suicidal. It's also not even all of the religious ones it's just the ones who have been extremely indoctrinated.
From what it seems to me we are the one that's looking down upon other people right now.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

I have many friends that are happy. Many that are pro-life. They do not look down upon anyone who is suicidal. It's mainly the extremely religious ones that look down upon people who are suicidal. It's also not even all of the religious ones it's just the ones who have been extremely indoctrinated.
From what it seems to me we are the one that's looking down upon other people right now.

Are you open about being suicidal to them?

How are we looking down on other people?

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

No, they don't, lol. They have different mindset in which they are able to justify extending life just for the purpose of extending it. To quote Richard H. Seiden, "Suicide troubles and appalls us because it so intransigently rejects our deeply held conviction that life must be worth living." They are not jealous of the supposed courage to end life, but appalled by the idea that somebody would voluntarily give up on life itself.

Maybe someone should clue them in to the fact that they along with every other human will die no matter what . So what is it that they are trying to stop ? No one can stop the impending inevitability . Dread it Death arrives just the same . Even the Earth , Sun , stars and universe will end. The universe is expanding into nothingness imo. The rate of expansion is accelerating. After the Sun Just the nearest star is 25 trillion miles away

Accelerating expansion of the universe - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Danjor88]

I think they want to be angry with someone, and people who are open to ending their life, or helping others to, are evil because they believe "life is the most precious thing you have".

Even though for many people their life brings nothing but endless suffering.

No empathy, just like to impose their beliefs on other people, as do many in the world these days for whatever cause is their current fetish.

 

[Seeking_Peace]

Not that it's bad, but it's a bit odd to me to find so many pro lifers on a site like this. This was the last site I'd be on when I was at my best(happy). I only joined to find like-minded people who share my pain and provide comfort. I do support the pro lifers who are compassionate and kind to those like us in pain. They don't bash us or treat us differently. We have a few kind souls like that here.

 

[Al Cappella]

People who actually suicide make up a fraction of one percent of any given population. It follows then, that the "pro-lifers" as you call them, don't actually know someone who's suicidal or has committed suicide, and are then only aware of it when a celebrity whacks themselves.

The reality is the pro-lifers don't give a shit about the pro-deathers, and don't have to. They certainly wouldn't be envious, because, without education, they'd simply dismiss the pro-deathers as being sad, pathetic—fill in the rest if you care.

Another reality is, once you're an adult, long past high school/college and the idiotic identity politics that invariably go on there, you've got enough to worry about that you don't pay much mind to anyone in not in your circle or family. So again, the probability that you're concerned with what suicidal people are doing is very near zero.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

Yeah nobody cares that's why there is no point putting it on blast about being suicidal