I fear that after CTB nothing will change

[LenkaX]

I mean... I feel like a ghost already. I'm afraid that after a suicidal death my presence will still continue and I will possibly not be even aware of it. My mind will continue existing but I will not be able to interact with anything anymore.

Now I live like a complete "nothing" with no friends, no work and no gf. I think that this nothingness will be retained and I will exist in it for a long time.

In past I've read lots of Blavatsky's theosophical work and unfortunately I chose to believe it. According to her and her followers, suicide makes things only worse. Haven't I read this work, I would have been already dead. But I have a big fear of what might come. Therefore I miss every opportunity when I'm occasionally home alone for few days in a year.

I don't want to kill myself, I want that I never existed at all, which is strangely not possible.

 

[NothingElseMatters]

we all fear that

 

[I'm Darkness]

Probably i will never read her book but whatever come after death is something unknown to me.

I feel like nothing can be worse than being alive, l woudn't mind being a ghost if l can avoid being a slave of capitalism, working every single day of my life and feeling miserable, let's fucking go.

 

[motel rooms]

In past I've read lots of Blavatsky's theosophical work and unfortunately I chose to believe it. According to her and her followers, suicide makes things only worse.

How about reading some books by other people?

 

[LenkaX]

How about reading some books by other people?

Which books do you suggest? I only researched this via Google and some people suggest that there will be beautiful heaven and other people suggest the opposite. Blavatsky seems to me to be be somewhere in the middle with her theory of Kama-Loka, Karma, Devachan etc.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

What are Blavatsky's theories?

 

[motel rooms]

What are Blavatsky's theories?

Don't. Just don't.

Which books do you suggest? I only researched this via Google and some people suggest that there will be beautiful heaven and other people suggest the opposite. Blavatsky seems to me to be be somewhere in the middle with her theory of Kama-Loka, Karma, Devachan etc.

It's my humble opinion that our tiny human brains simply have no way of knowing if the supernatural exists. I have no exciting books to suggest, only boring stuff about skepticism & agnosticism...

 

[LenkaX]

Don't. Just don't.

It's my humble opinion that our tiny human brains simply have no way of knowing if the supernatural exists. I have no exciting books to suggest, only boring stuff about skepticism & agnosticism...

I agree that it is just a question of belief. But according to my life experience, everything possible went wrong, so I assume that after CTB it will go wrong too and I will have even more misery than in this life.

 

[Bergamot]

Mee too I feel never change and I only lose my life for the s***t peoples who hurt and break me

 

[motel rooms]

I agree that it is just a question of belief. But according to my life experience, everything possible went wrong, so I assume that after CTB it will go wrong too and I will have even more misery than in this life.

I really wish I could help you...

 

[Healing]

Blavatsky didn't say it will be worse, you believes will shape the reality after death, the more enlightened you are the less you will suffer or be confused.

 

[Jemo_]

I mean... I feel like a ghost already. I'm afraid that after a suicidal death my presence will still continue and I will possibly not be even aware of it. My mind will continue existing but I will not be able to interact with anything anymore.

Now I live like a complete "nothing" with no friends, no work and no gf. I think that this nothingness will be retained and I will exist in it for a long time.

In past I've read lots of Blavatsky's theosophical work and unfortunately I chose to believe it. According to her and her followers, suicide makes things only worse. Haven't I read this work, I would have been already dead. But I have a big fear of what might come. Therefore I miss every opportunity when I'm occasionally home alone for few days in a year.

I don't want to kill myself, I want that I never existed at all, which is strangely not possible.

Maybe we should hear from someone who actually tried it and came back...

Disclaimer: I am only sharing this video and I in no way intend to offend anyone or impose any beliefs whatsoever on any person.

 

[LenkaX]

Blavatsky didn't say it will be worse, you believes will shape the reality after death, the more enlightened you are the less you will suffer or be confused.

Yes, theosophy maybe doesn't explicitly say that it's "worse" after suicide, but see these sources:

Suicide - Theosophy Wiki

theosophy.wiki

Suicide Is Not Death - blavatsky.net

This site focuses on Madame Blavatsky and her teaching - Theosophy. It features an introduction to Theosophy, study aids, research tools, original text, supporting evidence, membership, and visitor interaction.

www.blavatsky.net

To cite:
The fate of the suicide is horrible in general. He has cut himself off from his body by using mechanical means that affect the body, but cannot touch the real man. He then is projected into the astral world, for he has to live somewhere. There the remorseless law, which acts really for his good, compels him to wait until he can properly die. Naturally he must wait, half dead, the months or years which, in the order of nature, would have rolled over him before body and soul and spirit could rightly separate. He becomes a shade; he lives in purgatory, so to say, called by the Theosophist the "place of desire and passion," or "Kama Loka." He exists in the astral realm entirely, eaten up by his own thoughts. Continually repeating in vivid thoughts the act by which he tried to stop his life's pilgrimage, he at the same time sees the people and the place he left, but is not able to communicate with any one except, now and then, with some poor sensitive, who often is frightened by the visit. And often he fills the minds of living persons who may be sensitive to his thoughts with the picture of his own taking off, occasionally leading them to commit upon themselves the act of which he was guilty.

 

[Jemo_]

Maybe we should hear from someone who actually tried it and came back...

Disclaimer: I am only sharing this video and I in no way intend to offend anyone or impose any beliefs whatsoever on any person.

Yes, theosophy maybe doesn't explicitly say that it's "worse" after suicide, but see these sources:

Suicide - Theosophy Wiki

theosophy.wiki

Suicide Is Not Death - blavatsky.net

This site focuses on Madame Blavatsky and her teaching - Theosophy. It features an introduction to Theosophy, study aids, research tools, original text, supporting evidence, membership, and visitor interaction.

www.blavatsky.net

To cite:
The fate of the suicide is horrible in general. He has cut himself off from his body by using mechanical means that affect the body, but cannot touch the real man. He then is projected into the astral world, for he has to live somewhere. There the remorseless law, which acts really for his good, compels him to wait until he can properly die. Naturally he must wait, half dead, the months or years which, in the order of nature, would have rolled over him before body and soul and spirit could rightly separate. He becomes a shade; he lives in purgatory, so to say, called by the Theosophist the "place of desire and passion," or "Kama Loka." He exists in the astral realm entirely, eaten up by his own thoughts. Continually repeating in vivid thoughts the act by which he tried to stop his life's pilgrimage, he at the same time sees the people and the place he left, but is not able to communicate with any one except, now and then, with some poor sensitive, who often is frightened by the visit. And often he fills the minds of living persons who may be sensitive to his thoughts with the picture of his own taking off, occasionally leading them to commit upon themselves the act of which he was guilty.

The (lady in the video) 's explanation of her experience after taking her life depicts exactly what Blavatsky's theosophy of the suicide afterlife says. Spare sometime and take a look.

 

[Thegoldenapples]

I just had a little read up on the internet about it and yeah, that's super dark and I don't agree with that lady either. It just doesn't work that way from my experience and research. Hell is a state of mind and when we want to cbt, we are not punished for it when we chose to end it. We were clearly punished enough to get to that state in the first place. There's many layers of what could be happening prior to cbt which could be chosen prior to life or a consequence of wrong decisions from yourself or someone else e.g medical negligence or spiritual illness. It's all a learning experience but once you drop your props (body) and go home to the spirit world, theres no torture afterwards. Some go to wandering plane for a short time if they have committed egregious acts but then they go on as usual like everyone else and get healing.

 

[Healing]

I just had a little read up on the internet about it and yeah, that's super dark and I don't agree with that lady either. It just doesn't work that way from my experience and research. Hell is a state of mind and when we want to cbt, we are not punished for it when we chose to end it. We were clearly punished enough to get to that state in the first place. There's many layers of what could be happening prior to cbt which could be chosen prior to life or a consequence of wrong decisions from yourself or someone else e.g medical negligence or spiritual illness. It's all a learning experience but once you drop your props (body) and go home to the spirit world, theres no torture afterwards. Some go to wandering plane for a short time if they have committed egregious acts but then they go on as usual like everyone else and get healing.

100%

 

[WornOutLife]

I think that without a brain, there's no way to have a mind/consciousness.
I'm quite calm about death but if I happen to keep on existing once I ctb, well, I guess I'll find the way to get the hell out of there too.

 

[motel rooms]

I think that without a brain, there's no way to have a mind/consciousness.
I'm quite calm about death but if I happen to keep on existing once I ctb, well, I guess I'll find the way to get the hell out of there too.

Fuck, when I read what some people on here are afraid will happen to them when they die, I feel so lucky that my little brain is free from all that crap... Thank you, Epicurus!
"Death is nothing to us. When we exist, death is not; and when death exists, we are not. All sensation and consciousness ends with death and therefore in death there is neither pleasure nor pain. The fear of death arises from the false belief that in death there is awareness."
-- Epicurus (341–270 BC)

 

[WornOutLife]

Fuck, when I read what some people on here are afraid will happen to them when they die, I feel so lucky that my little brain is free from all that crap... Thank you, Epicurus!
"Death is nothing to us. When we exist, death is not; and when death exists, we are not. All sensation and consciousness ends with death and therefore in death there is neither pleasure nor pain. The fear of death arises from the false belief that in death there is awareness."
-- Epicurus (341–270 BC)

Haha same here.
Everytime I see someone scared of death, I just link them to the best thread ever about not fearing death.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/dont-be-afraid-of-death.47413/

 

[Catlovergirl]

I just had a little read up on the internet about it and yeah, that's super dark and I don't agree with that lady either. It just doesn't work that way from my experience and research. Hell is a state of mind and when we want to cbt, we are not punished for it when we chose to end it. We were clearly punished enough to get to that state in the first place. There's many layers of what could be happening prior to cbt which could be chosen prior to life or a consequence of wrong decisions from yourself or someone else e.g medical negligence or spiritual illness. It's all a learning experience but once you drop your props (body) and go home to the spirit world, theres no torture afterwards. Some go to wandering plane for a short time if they have committed egregious acts but then they go on as usual like everyone else and get healing.

Totally what I've read and agree with.