I failed yesterday (SN method)

[VIBRITANNIA]

wishing you a fast recovery and peace regardless of what you decide.

 

[alexit]

Sucks you're in the hospital

 

[Soul]

What is Sn method? I looked it up but didn't find anything

Please check out the forum resources:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/resource-compilation.3/

 

[ceelo]

>another one doesnt follow protocol
>fails

much wow!

 

[Soul]

I was out for like 5hrs. And opened my eyes on the hospital. Still at the hospital though

I hope you feel better soon. Please take some time to be kind to yourself: get plenty of rest and fresh air, stay hydrated, eat your spinach. You can think later about what you want to do next.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

So this is not to be taken seriously. Just attention seeking and may not even have happened?

I'm not going to defend myself against something I did not say and did not recommend. You extracted one sentence from an entire paragraph and with your comment changed my narrative to a new one. It's a bait and switch.

The thing is that it varies how people's bodies handle it. I've read the few medical reports available and some survive huge doses, and some only need a small amount to ctb.

Variations account for one reason for having a regimen, and in every medical report I've read, survival was dependent on the administration of methylene blue; I can't know what you've read. As far as amounts, I know of 1g being the lowest reported fatal amount, but I don't know what you mean by huge doses, nor any details about the medical interventions, but they had to have occurred or there wouldn't have been medical reports -- and that's one of the draws of this method, that one can survive without long-term effects if they receive the appropriate treatment, especially methylene blue. So I wonder, what do you mean by huge doses? Members have taken huge doses of 20-25g by following the regimen (fasting, 100ml or less of water) and survived due to intervention as a result of calling for help or being interrupted. If you link the reports for reference, then we can have an intelligent and informed conversation about what you read.

 

[GonnaGoBye]

Seems like this was a gesture rather than an attempt. OP was directed to Stan's guide in another thread and has also mentioned the meds listed in the guide, so there was definitely awareness of how to do the method. OP has asked about fasting as well. S/he was not uninformed.

People see a thread like this that says the member failed with SN and they get frightened. I suggest before getting scared to look back at previous posts, and pay attention on this thread to details like just using an unmeasured chunk from the package, was out five hours, then it changed to six hours, just dropping a bomb and not giving direct, reasonable answers to direct, reasonable questions.

I don't mean to encourage stopping having compassion for the OP. Plenty of people make gestures and seek other kinds of attention such as this post. This is about the OP, I only caution that it's not about the method.

I wish you well and a quick recovery, @GonnaGoBye.

Thanks for the concerns, and yes I have the time to prepare for the ctb, but before I really planned to ctb, I just drank a small amount using a big chunk of SN, because I did this before and just vomited, I didn't expect it to be a full ctb. If it was full I already got the meds needed to do it. It's just unexpectedly for me to pass out to SN.

>another one doesnt follow protocol
>fails

much wow!

Haha yes I didn't follow the method. But I got the meds with me and I just didn't drink it along with sn.
Will do this again if I had the chance.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

some survive huge doses

If they're given the proper treatment within a certain timeframe.
A huge dose (whatever you mean by that) without vomiting and without medical treatment is very unlikely to fail.

 

[LostandTired]

Oh my gawd. You put in a click-bait post title. This is definitely not this SN method! Only another forum user "trying out SN, just to see what it's like".

I hope you realize this does a disservice to other users here. As GoodPersonEffed said this post and similar ones only cause other to be unnecessarily frightened. That's all I'll say on this post....

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

I'm sorry for your suffering.

Perhaps, it's time to get some better data on SN's effectiveness. Seems to not work for a significant amount of people here. And we can't assume those who attempted with it, necessarily died from it, without independent confirmation.

It is wrong to question the method because it has failed recently.

If it almost always worked before, then 100% of the error lies with the users.

Either the quality of the SN was not tested or the method was carried out sloppily.

Sloppy in the sense of not adhering to the tried and tested regime.

Sloppy in the sense of insufficient understanding of the method, its process and the effect of the additional medication taken.

Sloppy in the sense of bad planning so as not to be found.

Of course there are exceptions, but if done correctly, the method works

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Thanks for the concerns, and yes I have the time to prepare for the ctb, but before I really planned to ctb, I just drank a small amount using a big chunk of SN, because I did this before and just vomited, I didn't expect it to be a full ctb. If it was full I already got the meds needed to do it. It's just unexpectedly for me to pass out to SN.

Thank you for clarifying what happened.

I'm curious as to why you posted about this experience though, like what you wanted to accomplish or wanted to receive from having posted. I've made all kinds of assumptions, some of them compassionate, some of them not. I figure it's better to ask what I don't know then to fill in the blanks.

 

[JB1999]

Lots seem to be having doubts because of the increase of members "trying" their SN and giving an influx of false failures here. I still have zero doubt that SN will work when done properly. Following procedure and intake the correct amount of SN. It is ABSOLUTELY necessary for a successful attempt.

Will probably be making my own thread on Friday night or Saturday morning when I take mine anyway

 

[DyingAlf]

. It's generally policy to not give suicide attempt patients their phone or any of their personal items back while in the initial treatment phase.

I know that someone has already pointed out that OP is in the Philippines but I want to comment further on your statement.

Please try not to make fact type statements about things that you don't know to be fact.

There are people here from many countries around the world so if you had said something along the lines of ...... In my country (name country if you want to) the general policy is......(whatever). That would be ok.

Here in the UK I have never had my phone confiscated at all, even on psych wards (which I have heard is not allowed in some countries).

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Why attack me? You said he was seeking attention with his post. Now when I ask about it you claim you didn't mean it? Or I did something wrong? Clearly you meant he was seeking attention because that is exactly what you said.

Welcome to my ignore button.

 

[MartyByrde]

I know that someone has already pointed out that OP is in the Philippines but I want to comment further on your statement.

Please try not to make fact type statements about things that you don't know to be fact.

There are people here from many countries around the world so if you had said something along the lines of ...... In my country (name country if you want to) the general policy is......(whatever). That would be ok.

Here in the UK I have never had my phone confiscated at all, even on psych wards (which I have heard is not allowed in some countries).

I used the term "generally" to preface my statement. My apologies for not writing my comment exactly as you would have written it. Responses like yours make me wish I never bothered to post on here anyway. Thanks for reminding me what a shit person I am in this thread.

 

[muffin222]

If you didn't expect a "full ctb" from taking the SN, then why take it at all? I don't understand this post whatsoever.

 

[AlreadyGone]

What is up with this "fad" of members testing SN and creating threads to report that they are in the hospital. I don't get it. Why bother creating a thread about this?

 

[esse_est_percipi]

What is up with this "fad" of members testing SN and creating threads to report that they are in the hospital. I don't get it. Why bother creating a thread about this?

Not sure.
I think members should only really report back if they followed the guidelines, took the correct amount, went unconscious yet somehow still survived for whatever reason. This might allow other members to identify whatever went wrong, so future mistakes could be avoided.

 

[Shiro20]

Please check out the forum resources:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/resource-compilation.3/

Thank you

 

[MartyByrde]

It is wrong to question the method because it has failed recently.

If it almost always worked before, then 100% of the error lies with the users.

Either the quality of the SN was not tested or the method was carried out sloppily.

Sloppy in the sense of not adhering to the tried and tested regime.

Sloppy in the sense of insufficient understanding of the method, its process and the effect of the additional medication taken.

Sloppy in the sense of bad planning so as not to be found.

Of course there are exceptions, but if done correctly, the method works

If questioning methods that in reality, are unreliable for many users here, I don't want to be right. In a perfect world, SN could be highly effective. However, human error cannot be ignored as a significant factor that impacts effectiveness.

 

[bigdog]

Does anybody knows official LD 50 dose for SN. I tried to find it but data is different. Some sources say 1 gram is fatal. For rats it is 180mg/kg. Is LD 50 same for humans or different?

 

[checkouttime]

the thread is about an SN failure......then 40 posts in the OP says it was just a 'test'

so then that isn't a failure, as they weren't trying to CTB they were just testing it??

 

[listeningpost1379]

the guide is actually hard to follow exactly. in many places such as where i am, theres no way to get sn that is surely to be pure, or obtain antiemetic. i completely understand the desperation to try against the odds. i dont think people are "testing" how sn works but more like testing their luck, since they cant afford to have everything right, might as well try with what they can afford, hoping for a slim, slim chance to be lucky enough to go.

 

[muffin222]

What is up with this "fad" of members testing SN and creating threads to report that they are in the hospital. I don't get it. Why bother creating a thread about this?

I think it's a cry for attention more than anything, an attempt to get sympathetic and concerned responses from posters. Energy vampires. We all need attention- it's a basic human need. I definitely don't think this is the wisest way to go about getting that attention, though...

 

[checkouttime]

the guide is actually hard to follow exactly. in many places such as where i am, theres no way to get sn that is surely to be pure, or obtain antiemetic. i completely understand the desperation to try against the odds. i dont think people are "testing" how sn works but more like testing their luck, since they cant afford to have everything right, might as well try with what they can afford, hoping for a slim, slim chance to be lucky enough to go.

there's lot of members who have 'tested' it if you check al the threads out. a lot of people have said they want to know how it feels, hence why they 'test' it (each to their own i say.)

if you have got hold of pure SN i guarantee you will have enough to CTB .you get way more than you need!

 

[Meditation guide]

I think it's a cry for attention more than anything, an attempt to get sympathetic and concerned responses from posters. Energy vampires.

If you don't believe someone or think they just want attention there is no need to publicly say that. You don't know what people are going through or what their motives are. We need to be a welcoming forum and not shut anyone down.

I don't want anyone to be scared to post, afraid of criticism.

 

[Morphosis]

the guide is actually hard to follow exactly. in many places such as where i am, theres no way to get sn that is surely to be pure, or obtain antiemetic. i completely understand the desperation to try against the odds. i dont think people are "testing" how sn works but more like testing their luck, since they cant afford to have everything right, might as well try with what they can afford, hoping for a slim, slim chance to be lucky enough to go.

I could completely understand it if that's what they were doing, drinking it on impulse in the hope it would work, regardless of extra medications.
A LOT of people lately have admitted that they are just "testing" it, for taste or effects on the body or some other reason, but NOT to ctb. They admit that themselves as they only take a tiny amount, to "see what it's like." So it's not that they are taking a chance without antiemetics or some other part of the regimen they can't get hold of, while still hoping to be lucky enough to go.
The OP admitted in this thread they actually have all the correct medication and know exactly what to do, but decided to "test" again and just took an unmeasured "chunk". They even admitted they were not trying to ctb and passing out was "unexpected."
So as people have pointed out, this was not a "failed attempt with SN" as stated in the thread title. It was just another test which had more severe side effects than the OP was expecting.

 

[AlreadyGone]

I think it's a cry for attention more than anything, an attempt to get sympathetic and concerned responses from posters. Energy vampires. We all need attention- it's a basic human need. I definitely don't think this is the wisest way to go about getting that attention, though...

I agree. Then other members see this and start following suit.

 

[muffin222]

If you don't believe someone or think they just want attention there is no need to publicly say that. You don't know what people are going through or what their motives are. We need to be a welcoming forum and not shut anyone down.

I don't want anyone to be scared to post, afraid of criticism.

Unfortunately, OP posted this on a public forum full of diverse members with diverse opinions, so I'm allowed to voice my perspective as long as it's in line with the mods' rules. I don't know what OP's motives are, as they haven't really been clear about that. I can only speculate based upon my own experiences and perceptions. I'm not shutting anyone down.

I think that OP and others who post these types of threads do it for attention and sympathy, and, in the process, sadly, they spread misinformation and engender unnecessary fear and doubts in other posters about SN. They also normalize "taste testing" poison, possibly leading some impressionable members to follow suit and end up in the hospital, or maybe even dead before they're ready, in the worst case scenario.

We are a welcoming forum, but we're also a diverse forum. If OP wants nothing but love, rainbows, and emotional support, they should seek out a support group, a hotline, or a counselor. I don't have to play along and give sympathy if I feel it does more harm than good. We all need attention, I get that. I'm not shaming OP for that, if that's their intention (which, imo, it is)

But trying to get it in this way on an anonymous forum comes at a price, and that price is that OP may not get the responses they hoped for from every person. That's the reality of the Internet. If OP can't cope with that, then they should take a moment to think before making these types of posts, especially since posts of this nature have garnered negative responses in the past on here.

 

[AlreadyGone]

Unfortunately, OP posted this on a public forum full of diverse members with diverse opinions, so I'm allowed to voice my perspective as long as it's in line with the mods' rules. I don't know what OP's motives are, as they haven't really been clear about that. I can only speculate based upon my own experiences and perceptions. I'm not shutting anyone down.

I think that OP and others who post these types of threads do it for attention and sympathy, and, in the process, sadly, they spread misinformation and engender unnecessary fear and doubts in other posters about SN. They also normalize "taste testing" poison, possibly leading some impressionable members to follow suit and end up in the hospital, or maybe even dead before they're ready, in the worst case scenario.

We are a welcoming forum, but we're also a diverse forum. If OP wants nothing but love, rainbows, and emotional support, they should seek out a support group, a hotline, or a counselor. I don't have to play along and give sympathy if I feel it does more harm than good. We all need attention, I get that. I'm not shaming OP for that, if that's their intention (which, imo, it is)

But trying to get it in this way on an anonymous forum comes at a price, and that price is that OP may not get the responses they hoped for from every person. That's the reality of the Internet. If OP can't cope with that, then they should take a moment to think before making these types of posts, especially since posts of this nature have garnered negative responses in the past on here.

Well said.