StuFin
Arcanist
- Oct 21, 2020
- 449
Okay I've been researching this a lot because if you can get to the black out / unconscious phase it's painless, and I've found some interesting stuff.
First it doesn't have to be painful, like going out in -30C or something crazy. If you do that you risk frost bite, and if you survive (you're not dead from hypothermia until you're warm and dead - i.e. they'll try and revive you and it can be done even after a long period of time), then you risk losing toes, fingers, nose, etc.
Hypothermia isn't freezing to death, it's lowering your core body temperature until your body gives out, and by that time you're totally out of it, it is supposed to be euphoric at that point.
Someone posted here about how a friend of theirs died in the UK in summer time because they were drunk and on benzos, got soaked in the rain and fell asleep and died of HT.
All you need to do is get your body temp low enough, less than 30C and you're toast.
So here's what I've found:
1) Alcohol opens (dilates) your blood vessels like arteries and pumps blood to your skin, making you cool down faster, while feeling warm.
2) In water you cool down 25 times faster than in air.
3) The water doesn't have to be freezing - if you got in a luke warm bath full of water, wait until you acclimatise to it, then add more cold water. Acclimatise then add more cold water - it's like boiling a frog in reverse - gradually cooling it. Don't move around - if you do you realise how cold it is - yes I tried.
4) Fasting - if you fast for 24 hours before it stops or at least reduces shivering. It's all linked to the circadian rhythm and whether food is available, there have been lots of studies done on this with birds and dogs, and a bit on humans - we do it too - when you have no food your body temp drops lower than normal when you sleep and to conserve energy your body doesn't shiver. I'd fasted for 24 hours and didn't shiver at all - until later on - below.
5) then lie down on your bed (on side for maximum surface area exposure) with the windows open and you'll realise you don't feel cold at all - but you really are.
When I tried I had my knees together, my hand felt normal temperature against my chest, back, stomach, etc indicating my skin was the same temperature. I stuck my hand between my knees and nearly went through the ceiling, it was like a block of ice.
I did this with no alcohol, just sitting in a cold bath for about 30 minutes, then laying on bed for 30 minutes.
The weirdest thing was when I got under the covers - as my body started to warm up I started these mad uncontrollable whole body shivers, shakes like my whole body was convulsing, and I could feel my pulse banging away in my abdomen - it felt like my whole stomach was bouncing up and down with my heart rate.
I really think this is doable at this time of year without having to suffer. It's an interesting experience even if you crawl under the covers like a wimp like I did.
Felt very cold all night though.
I hope someone else tries and verifies these experiences and reports back, I think it's a viable and under discussed method.
First it doesn't have to be painful, like going out in -30C or something crazy. If you do that you risk frost bite, and if you survive (you're not dead from hypothermia until you're warm and dead - i.e. they'll try and revive you and it can be done even after a long period of time), then you risk losing toes, fingers, nose, etc.
Hypothermia isn't freezing to death, it's lowering your core body temperature until your body gives out, and by that time you're totally out of it, it is supposed to be euphoric at that point.
Someone posted here about how a friend of theirs died in the UK in summer time because they were drunk and on benzos, got soaked in the rain and fell asleep and died of HT.
All you need to do is get your body temp low enough, less than 30C and you're toast.
So here's what I've found:
1) Alcohol opens (dilates) your blood vessels like arteries and pumps blood to your skin, making you cool down faster, while feeling warm.
2) In water you cool down 25 times faster than in air.
3) The water doesn't have to be freezing - if you got in a luke warm bath full of water, wait until you acclimatise to it, then add more cold water. Acclimatise then add more cold water - it's like boiling a frog in reverse - gradually cooling it. Don't move around - if you do you realise how cold it is - yes I tried.
4) Fasting - if you fast for 24 hours before it stops or at least reduces shivering. It's all linked to the circadian rhythm and whether food is available, there have been lots of studies done on this with birds and dogs, and a bit on humans - we do it too - when you have no food your body temp drops lower than normal when you sleep and to conserve energy your body doesn't shiver. I'd fasted for 24 hours and didn't shiver at all - until later on - below.
5) then lie down on your bed (on side for maximum surface area exposure) with the windows open and you'll realise you don't feel cold at all - but you really are.
When I tried I had my knees together, my hand felt normal temperature against my chest, back, stomach, etc indicating my skin was the same temperature. I stuck my hand between my knees and nearly went through the ceiling, it was like a block of ice.
I did this with no alcohol, just sitting in a cold bath for about 30 minutes, then laying on bed for 30 minutes.
The weirdest thing was when I got under the covers - as my body started to warm up I started these mad uncontrollable whole body shivers, shakes like my whole body was convulsing, and I could feel my pulse banging away in my abdomen - it felt like my whole stomach was bouncing up and down with my heart rate.
I really think this is doable at this time of year without having to suffer. It's an interesting experience even if you crawl under the covers like a wimp like I did.
Felt very cold all night though.
I hope someone else tries and verifies these experiences and reports back, I think it's a viable and under discussed method.
