How to reduce the survival instinct..?

[AnonymousS]

If it's something like jumping, pulling a trigger, etc. where you just need to overcome SI for a moment, I think you just have to do it. Almost catch yourself off guard instead of counting down to the moment. Maybe have a narrative framing to take your mind's focus off of itself, like thinking of a character or historical figure who showed great courage facing their death. If it's suppressing SI until death occurs, hugging a blanket or stuffed animal would bring comfort and give your hands something to do. Even a talisman or stress ball might work depending on how free your hands are during the method.

Something I used to do to get around my intense desire to procrastinate was use the feeling that I should stop as a springboard to keep going. When I felt the resistance I would say "that means I have to apply even more effort". I don't know if that kind of mental sleight of hand would work for something primal like SI but it may help someone.

Thanks it's just to get over the fear of stepping or jumping off a height. At the end of the day, i am suffering every day and i know my life is over.

 

[haibiantou]

I have attempted to go from from a very high point in the UK. I cannot seem to fight the fear response when i go up. I have taken some stuff like alcohol, or certain medications, but i just cannot seem to do it. In my head i can just think close your eyes and just step over. My fear response just keeps stopping me. I need to do this. Do any of you guys have any suggestions please ? I just feel overwhelmed and desperate, thanks.

i'm in the UK too... do you mind me asking what high point you have in mind? no worries if you would rather keep it private.

would turning around and falling backwards help? maybe if you have the means you could go to a diving centre and practice jumping off a 5m or 10m diving board to get used to jumping from a height. you could even try going bungee jumping as the instructors will obviously guide you and encourage you to jump from a great height. i'm thinking of jumping too but i also struggle with the same fear of heights.

 

[AnonymousS]

i'm in the UK too... do you mind me asking what high point you have in mind? no worries if you would rather keep it private.

would turning around and falling backwards help? maybe if you have the means you could go to a diving centre and practice jumping off a 5m or 10m diving board to get used to jumping from a height. you could even try going bungee jumping as the instructors will obviously guide you and encourage you to jump from a great height. i'm thinking of jumping too but i also struggle with the same fear of heights.

Hi i would rather keep it private just for now, only because of the fact i have seen examples of people having let's just say, not the same reason for being here. I am not saying that you're one of those, but you never know. All i can say right now is that it's very high, and luckily once over the initial barrier i had faced, death is a certainty.

i'm in the UK too... do you mind me asking what high point you have in mind? no worries if you would rather keep it private.

would turning around and falling backwards help? maybe if you have the means you could go to a diving centre and practice jumping off a 5m or 10m diving board to get used to jumping from a height. you could even try going bungee jumping as the instructors will obviously guide you and encourage you to jump from a great height. i'm thinking of jumping too but i also struggle with the same fear of heights.

I will also probably just go from the front, i just need to remember how rough my life is, and has been for a very long time. I appreciate your suggestions though.

 

[haibiantou]

Hi i would rather keep it private just for now, only because of the fact i have seen examples of people having let's just say, not the same reason for being here. I am not saying that you're one of those, but you never know. All i can say right now is that it's very high, and luckily once over the initial barrier i had faced, death is a certainty.

I will also probably just go from the front, i just need to remember how rough my life is, and has been for a very long time. I appreciate your suggestions though.

okay, absolutely respect your decision. i was just wondering more because i personally have somewhere in mind myself and was wondering if we were thinking of the same place, haha.

going from the front sounds good if you can face it. good to confront death head on. i hope you can summon up the courage and that your final moments can be peaceful

 

[AnonymousS]

okay, absolutely respect your decision. i was just wondering more because i personally have somewhere in mind myself and was wondering if we were thinking of the same place, haha.

going from the front sounds good if you can face it. good to confront death head on. i hope you can summon up the courage and that your final moments can be peaceful

Thank you for your kind words, obviously i am definitely not saying i don't trust you personally. It's just very difficult, and i cannot afford for this to go wrong. I too wish you the very same, and hope any distress is minimal.

I wish we did it together

Yes it could be a special way to go.

We came.from NOTHINGNESS and we return to whatever. Society fears death. It doesn't face the reality that we all do die, sooner or later. Life and death is ONE, only separated by a space of unknown Years of which there is no guarantee. Ive seen many young people aroun d me die of disease and accidents, et c. I think the more we feel death, the less fearful of it we become !.

Yes for sure, it's not death i am afraid if but some heights. However i will conquer this as i need to, to get some peace.

 

[lonerclown666]

The reason why im still not go is for the survival instinct i want to reduse my instincts

 

[gorillazlover]

Yes for sure, it's not death i am afraid if but some heights. However i will conquer this as i need to, to get some peace

The death isn't scary part, death is your conciousness no longer existing in this world; like a computer that has been smashed to bits. We all experienced our concioususness not existing before and that's before we were born, nobody remembers before we were born. The scary part is when you survive, what if someone finds you, what if you wake up in hospital and have to explain everything, what if you end up a place so bad you wish you succeded and died, and worst of all in my opinion: what if I end up a vegetable still conscious but I can't move a muscle or even speak and be kept alive against my will because of ethics or some bs and I can't even tell them to at least to stop and only comfort left in once life being the internal and eternal screams yearning for sweat kiss of death.

 

[AnonymousS]

The death isn't scary part, death is your conciousness no longer existing in this world; like a computer that has been smashed to bits. We all experienced our concioususness not existing before and that's before we were born, nobody remembers before we were born. The scary part is when you survive, what if someone finds you, what if you wake up in hospital and have to explain everything, what if you end up a place so bad you wish you succeded and died, and worst of all in my opinion: what if I end up a vegetable still conscious but I can't move a muscle or even speak and be kept alive against my will because of ethics or some bs and I can't even tell them to at least to stop and only comfort left in once life being the internal and eternal screams yearning for sweat kiss of death.

Luckily i am going from a height, it's not the way i would have liked but at least i know i will be no more. I understand though what you say, i have survived multiple attempts. It usually makes me very angry.

 

[AquaSkye7]

The death isn't scary part, death is your conciousness no longer existing in this world; like a computer that has been smashed to bits. We all experienced our concioususness not existing before and that's before we were born, nobody remembers before we were born. The scary part is when you survive, what if someone finds you, what if you wake up in hospital and have to explain everything, what if you end up a place so bad you wish you succeded and died, and worst of all in my opinion: what if I end up a vegetable still conscious but I can't move a muscle or even speak and be kept alive against my will because of ethics or some bs and I can't even tell them to at least to stop and only comfort left in once life being the internal and eternal screams yearning for sweat kiss of death.

I tried to finally end it last night. And I realize that all the "what if" questions ARE the survival instinct. And the closer you get to pulling, the more intense the "what if" kicks in. I know for certain I will feel no pain. I know for certain it will be instantaneous. But my survival instinct is what creates the doubt. I tried alcohol and it didn't work either. Just made me cry. Idk what to do to get the courage because it freaking sucks when you finally have a way out but can't even take it when it's all you want!! My "what if" questions have now ventured to, "what if I become a ghost" or "what if I am trapped in some type of purgatory with everyone else through time who has made the same decision?"….The "what ifs" are endless and one pull and the questions stop too! Alcohol was a bad idea bc it makes you do dumb things like call someone who may lower your courage even more. I need HELP!

 

[CrossroadsCurious]

Hypothetically, if your mobility is not limited, you can place something easy to jump over right at the edge. In your mind think "I'm just going to jump said object". Get a running start and close your eyes at last second as you jump. Playing music would probably help too.

Just need to distrack/trick your SI for those crucial few seconds.

Hypothetically speaking...