Help how to cut deeper?

[EquinoxAlchemist]

I've been self harming for a long time now, though I've had a massive break between when i started and now. When I was younger I went a couple months doing it every day, got found out and had to stop and only occasinally cut myself again. Now I've proper relapsed and I'm at it again. Don't care to stop, don't want to be told to stop because I simply don't get why I should.

I'd just like some advice on how to cut deeper? I can't seem to get past the epidermis. I've never reached dermis or the BEANS, my regular cuts only go to stratum granulosum or spinosum tops (layers in the epidermis). It's not about the pain, but the injury and blood itself so would pain killers help? A sharper tool? Any advice is helpful. Thank you!

 

[SecretDissociation]

i'm not keen on giving self-harm advice, but I can tell you that pain killers OTC painkillers would not help because they target active/occurring pain.

 

[EquinoxAlchemist]

i'm not keen on giving self-harm advice, but I can tell you that pain killers OTC painkillers would not help because they target active/occurring pain.

Hm...thank you, that does make sense. So that option is out. (Also: Yato my beloved <3)

 

[Forveleth]

I would highly suggest you DO NOT go deeper than the epidermis. You put yourself at a substantially higher risk of infection and doing some very bad, permanent damage.

I am not sure what is covered there buy here is a thread on self harm:

Self Harm Resources

This post is written by @Dot, I am just the messenger Self Harm It's known that there are many users on the forum who self harm for different reasons. This thread is focused mostly on habitual or impulsive/physical self harm. This thread has not been made for any glorification of self harm...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[EquinoxAlchemist]

I would highly suggest you DO NOT go deeper than the epidermis. You put yourself at a substantially higher risk of infection and doing some very bad, permanent damage.

I am not sure what is covered there buy here is a thread on self harm:

Self Harm Resources

This post is written by @Dot, I am just the messenger Self Harm It's known that there are many users on the forum who self harm for different reasons. This thread is focused mostly on habitual or impulsive/physical self harm. This thread has not been made for any glorification of self harm...

sanctioned-suicide.net

that thread is somewhat helpful, but i know most of it. I know how to take care of my wounds and i know it's technically a stupid idea. don't care much about permanent damage, but i cut in a safe spot. Thank you for the concern though!

 

[EvisceratedJester]

that thread is somewhat helpful, but i know most of it. I know how to take care of my wounds and i know it's technically a stupid idea. don't care much about permanent damage, but i cut in a safe spot. Thank you for the concern though!

Deeper cuts (any cuts to the bean or below) require different aftercare compared to cat scratches. Honestly, as somebody who has cut down to the bean before, I don't recommend it...

 

[RoseGirl]

hmmm idk i just use hatred to cut as deep as i can. if i wanna go really deep then i cut within the cut to go deeper. oh also you have to use something super sharp like a razor or scaple. i did once get a pretty impressive wound from a very nice kitchen knife tho. but since then i haven't been able to replicate it.
as for after care, i personally cover the wound with tea tree oil if it's refusing to heal, that usually fixes the issue

 

[EquinoxAlchemist]

hmmm idk i just use hatred to cut as deep as i can. if i wanna go really deep then i cut within the cut to go deeper. oh also you have to use something super sharp like a razor or scaple. i did once get a pretty impressive wound from a very nice kitchen knife tho. but since then i haven't been able to replicate it.
as for after care, i personally cover the wound with tea tree oil if it's refusing to heal, that usually fixes the issue

Yeah im using razor blades right now and so I don't cut my fingers in the process i have this...baking tool for scoring bread. It works wonders, no more finger cuts that make me want to kill myself when cutting tomatoes. I've never really cut within the cut, but I think I'll try that. Thank you!

 

[Cauliflour]

I use blades from box knives and I can only get a little bit of blood out. It's really annoying as I want to watch it all leak out...

 

[RoseGirl]

I use blades from box knives and I can only get a little bit of blood out. It's really annoying as I want to watch it all leak out...

hmm.. if u cut a vein it'll like squirt out..

 

[thefaunasystem]

this is a long one, very sorry. TLDR: the consequences of cutting deeper are not worth the short-lived relief of satisfying an urge. consider why you feel the need to cut deeper, and consider other solutions to that feeling that don't involve the risk.

as someone who's covered in scars, has had transfusions, surgeries and eventually sepsis, my advice would be to consider why you want/feel the need to cut deeper. is it a question of validity? are you not getting the same relief? getting to the root of why you feel the urges is important because it can help you think of other solutions.

i started off thinking 'what if i just go deeper this one time'. once you cave to the spiral, the spiral consumes you. things can escalate far quicker than you think. quite frankly, if you're on this site, i can imagine you have enough problems without a myriad of longterm self-induced health issues.

i'm going to be very candid with you in this next part. read with caution.

the permanent damage people talk of is very real. its easy to trick yourself into thinking 'it won't happen to me' or 'i don't care' but to be blunt (no pun intended) any cut into the fatty layers and beyond can cause serious and potentially lifelong complications.

some personal examples: i've lost range of movement in both wrists which makes things such as door handles, writing, cooking, typing etc difficult and very painful; i have permanent nerve damage (shooting pains throughout my arms and legs, numbness, pins and needles) - the pain never stops; the scar tissue sometimes rips due to skin tension which is agonising; my scars regularly cut off circulation into my extremities; i will never walk the same again.

my body stopped healing at one point. i was getting stitches and staples 4-5 times a week minimum for a month straight and gave up seeking medical care. the wounds stayed open for 6 months and i had 7 infections, was eventually diagnosed with MRSA, sepsis and was hospitalised for 3 months. nearly lost my arm multiple times.

most of these injuries that have caused these issues were to sub cut fat and no deeper. some were deeper but the ones that gave me sepsis were no deeper than 'beans' as you called them.

just be careful. if you're adamant, use correct wound care. cover ALL injuries where you can see fat, and use steri-strips where possible. don't apply tea tree oil to injuries . use antibiotic gels/creams. always use a clean blade and dispose of your blades safely. always seek medical attention if you're concerned, its better safe than sorry honestly.

sorry for writing so much, this is a topic i'm passionate about and i didn't see any point in mincing my words.

 

[penguinl0v3s]

It's not worth it because it doesn't prove anything to anyone and it just drives people away. Not to mention the health consequences.

This is kind of a shtwt thing question too.

 

[darksouls]

I always used the razor blades we had at home
my mother bought them
there was a pack of extra-thin razor blades
that did not end well for me
please be careful

 

[AnEpilogue]

I acquired a box cutter from Joanne's as it was closing, didn't realize that they sharpened them so much and I cut *way* deeper than I meant to lol. In other words, a sharper blade can help, the pain isn't as bad as it is with a dull blade, so your body won't respond as negatively immediately. Of course, be careful, but I don't think I need to tell you that.

 

[FoxSauce]

Ik im late foe the thread but i widh some help too..to cut deeper so it can hirt a bit more. Please

 

[bl33ding_heart]

I've been self harming for a long time now, though I've had a massive break between when i started and now. When I was younger I went a couple months doing it every day, got found out and had to stop and only occasinally cut myself again. Now I've proper relapsed and I'm at it again. Don't care to stop, don't want to be told to stop because I simply don't get why I should.

I'd just like some advice on how to cut deeper? I can't seem to get past the epidermis. I've never reached dermis or the BEANS, my regular cuts only go to stratum granulosum or spinosum tops (layers in the epidermis). It's not about the pain, but the injury and blood itself so would pain killers help? A sharper tool? Any advice is helpful. Thank you!

As someone who's had self harming issues since they were 12. Self harm is never worth it, especially deep lacerations. First of all, it damages and weakens your skin which can cause permanent damage and even possibly make you more susceptible to getting skin cancer. And second of all you could get a serious infection that will put you in more pain then you could even imagine. If it's bad enough a limb could even be amputated. I'm not trying to tell anyone what they can and can't do, everyone has the free will to make decisions for themselves. But if you're going to be doing something dangerous it's important to be aware of the risks.

 

[unknown_user!]

hmmm idk i just use hatred to cut as deep as i can. if i wanna go really deep then i cut within the cut to go deeper. oh also you have to use something super sharp like a razor or scaple. i did once get a pretty impressive wound from a very nice kitchen knife tho. but since then i haven't been able to replicate it.
as for after care, i personally cover the wound with tea tree oil if it's refusing to heal, that usually fixes the issue

How do you go inside the cut? I use a razor blade, but my cuts don't look big enough to put the blade inside of them and successfully make a cut. They also bleed way too much to really see what I'm cutting.

I've been self harming for a long time now, though I've had a massive break between when i started and now. When I was younger I went a couple months doing it every day, got found out and had to stop and only occasinally cut myself again. Now I've proper relapsed and I'm at it again. Don't care to stop, don't want to be told to stop because I simply don't get why I should.

I'd just like some advice on how to cut deeper? I can't seem to get past the epidermis. I've never reached dermis or the BEANS, my regular cuts only go to stratum granulosum or spinosum tops (layers in the epidermis). It's not about the pain, but the injury and blood itself so would pain killers help? A sharper tool? Any advice is helpful. Thank you!

Not sure if this will help since I can only get to the dermis and I'm actually trying to get to the beans right now, but I'll tell you what I do, since I tend to get nice scars and a lot of blood. I primarily use a sharp razor blade and I make sure my skin is stretched so that it's tight enough that the blade can't dig in unless I press down. I usually use the corner of the razor blade and push down until I break the skin and see blood. Then I make a fast dragging motion and repeat the process until there's blood dripping down my arm. The process is also very fast, even though it sounds slow, and once you get comfortable you can get lost in the motion. It's happened to me multiple times, so please try to be careful!

 

[EquinoxAlchemist]

this is a long one, very sorry. TLDR: the consequences of cutting deeper are not worth the short-lived relief of satisfying an urge. consider why you feel the need to cut deeper, and consider other solutions to that feeling that don't involve the risk.

as someone who's covered in scars, has had transfusions, surgeries and eventually sepsis, my advice would be to consider why you want/feel the need to cut deeper. is it a question of validity? are you not getting the same relief? getting to the root of why you feel the urges is important because it can help you think of other solutions.

i started off thinking 'what if i just go deeper this one time'. once you cave to the spiral, the spiral consumes you. things can escalate far quicker than you think. quite frankly, if you're on this site, i can imagine you have enough problems without a myriad of longterm self-induced health issues.

i'm going to be very candid with you in this next part. read with caution.

the permanent damage people talk of is very real. its easy to trick yourself into thinking 'it won't happen to me' or 'i don't care' but to be blunt (no pun intended) any cut into the fatty layers and beyond can cause serious and potentially lifelong complications.

some personal examples: i've lost range of movement in both wrists which makes things such as door handles, writing, cooking, typing etc difficult and very painful; i have permanent nerve damage (shooting pains throughout my arms and legs, numbness, pins and needles) - the pain never stops; the scar tissue sometimes rips due to skin tension which is agonising; my scars regularly cut off circulation into my extremities; i will never walk the same again.

my body stopped healing at one point. i was getting stitches and staples 4-5 times a week minimum for a month straight and gave up seeking medical care. the wounds stayed open for 6 months and i had 7 infections, was eventually diagnosed with MRSA, sepsis and was hospitalised for 3 months. nearly lost my arm multiple times.

most of these injuries that have caused these issues were to sub cut fat and no deeper. some were deeper but the ones that gave me sepsis were no deeper than 'beans' as you called them.

just be careful. if you're adamant, use correct wound care. cover ALL injuries where you can see fat, and use steri-strips where possible. don't apply tea tree oil to injuries . use antibiotic gels/creams. always use a clean blade and dispose of your blades safely. always seek medical attention if you're concerned, its better safe than sorry honestly.

sorry for writing so much, this is a topic i'm passionate about and i didn't see any point in mincing my words.

ive always liked being injured in one way or another, guess i like my body broken.

Sorry all of that happened to you, it does sound really hard to deal with. I'm being careful, using proper wound care. I've seen people cut down to the muscle, which i do not intend to do. On this site I also don't mince my words or censor myself much, I'm sick of jumping around making sure im always nice to everyone all the time so I make sure my words cannot be taken in any other way expect the "correct" way.

I can't bring myself to care about the consequences right now, I know they're real and I know they're a possiblity. Self harm in itself is a self destructive - and possibly stupid in some peopels eyes - thing to do because of all the consequences. My "goal" would just be a bit deeper than I do now, probably only half way to the dermis maybe. I don't want to get stitches or have to go see a doctor. My body just refuses to cooperate and my wrist feels weak when I want to continue. Funny thing that.

Thank you for your thoughts, I hope you feel better and that life isn't so much of a struggle

This is kind of a shtwt thing question too.

Then don't answer it?

I acquired a box cutter from Joanne's as it was closing, didn't realize that they sharpened them so much and I cut *way* deeper than I meant to lol. In other words, a sharper blade can help, the pain isn't as bad as it is with a dull blade, so your body won't respond as negatively immediately. Of course, be careful, but I don't think I need to tell you that.

I've never had luck with box cutters. Once even bought stanley blades but they were even duller than my regular razors lmao

and yes i am careful, thank you for worrying