Discussion How hypocrite is it to be against your friend’s suicide.

[Nihilisticstatic]

I believe suicide should be accessible and a personal choice. I plan on trying a couple different things in life and then ctb. To me death is a state of matter just like life is, its scary at times but there's no need to overcomplicate it. If someone wanted advice on how to have a peaceful death, I'd give it. I understand that life can be so unbearable at times.
Despite that, when my friends talk about suicide, I can't help but talk against it. Im not against suicide, just against their's in specific. I dont want my friends to die because while life can be filled with -1, it can also have +1s. Death is a 0 forever, no pain but no joy or pleasure. I want my friends to be happy and not in pain. Thats where I realize my hypocrisy. To them, pain is everything at that moment and the future doesnt matter if youre dead so why should they care if they will feel happy in 10 years. Its easy to say "it gets better", yeah it does, but how does that justify not dying now?

It feels like I dont want my friends to die not for them but just so that I dont lose them, but it also feels wrong and heartless to say "I think you should do it if thats what you want, even if I don't wanna lose you."

At what point to we prioritize our own selfish wants over our friends' wants, especially when it about their own life?
Whats the right thing to do?
Kind of need help with this

 

[WhiteRaven]

If you can change their mind, you might have saved their life; it's always better if someone doesn't die. Except sometimes life is so much worse than dieing chosing to live isn't an option. But how you support them is what is important. If all they get from other people in their support system is the reasons they shouldn't die, then it can be more helpful to hear them out without criticism. Trying to understand how they feel.

 

[MrNobody88]

That's a tough line to walk. Even though most people here are not against suicide we still don't want someone we care about to die. For example I plan on leaving this world soon but if someone I loved called me saying they were going to end their life I would probably be against it too. I guess that makes me a hypocrite lol

That's a hard one to wrestle with Static, I don't think anyone can give you an easy answer on it. Perhaps you value the life of your friends more than your own and that's where the conflict of ideas comes from. I wish you luck on this thought experiment and I hope you stay close to your friends.

 

[Nihilisticstatic]

If you can change their mind, you might have saved their life; it's always better if someone doesn't die. Except sometimes life is so much worse than dieing chosing to live isn't an option. But how you support them is what is important. If all they get from other people in their support system is the reasons they shouldn't die, then it can be more helpful to hear them out without criticism. Trying to understand how they feel.

It's not for me to decide if they're in enough pain or not though. And even without pain, sometimes life just isn't it. Ill try my best to support them and make them feel less bad.

I wish you luck on this thought experiment and I hope you stay close to your friends.

It all comes down to one's values I guess.
Thanks, Im not sure what the right thing to do is, but Ill listen to them and try being there for them.