Dejected 55
Enlightened
- May 7, 2025
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While stereotypically men "don't care" about women's orgasm... let's be blunt and say it is primarily women to blame for stunting their own sexual enjoyment... at least in Western culture anyway. I can't speak to the east where there are those female circumcision mutilations and punishments for women not being virgins... that stuff is sick and crazy and horrible and is primarily driven by men, maybe out of jealousy maybe just for control...
But here in Western culture... Most men, even the super religious ones are going to want to be with a woman who enjoys sex. Even if that man stereotypically doesn't care about her orgasm as long as he has his... he still wants her to enjoy it so she'll want to give him more of it. It just makes logical sense. Granted a lot of men won't be good at bringing a woman to orgasm or maybe not care to try very hard... but if she is able to do it for herself and enhance her enjoyment however... that man is going to be all for it. Very few western men want a starfish robot to "use" no matter what you might hear in the media.
Now... women are traditionally the ones shaming other women for enjoying sex too much... telling her she shouldn't enjoy it so much, definitely shouldn't touch herself, and shouldn't give her man too much attention... etc.
Women are kind of women's worst enemies in this regard. Where they could be helping each other out and encouraging, often they are competing with each other. Men might compete to "get" a particular woman or have the most women or some stupid manly competition like that... I don't know of any men who would seek to restrict other men or tell them not to masturbate or not to place importance on their orgasm or whatever.
It's a weird flex... and women kind of get screwed (figuratively not literally) by both men and women. Men will often use women for their own pleasure and not worry about the woman immediately after... and women will discourage other women from enjoying sex too much.
My only sex has been with escorts, so you never quite know when they really orgasm or when they fake it for you. I never wanted fake, though... so I always tried. One escort told me she had never orgasmed with a client before. Another woman was screaming so much she had to grab a pillow and bury her face in it. Most of them were just sort of there... and one woman did not orgasm at all, for sure, because she told me. She braced me initially saying she rarely orgasmed even on her own, and she honestly told me I wasn't doing it for her. Technically that is the only one I know for sure wasn't lying, because why would you lie about not having one?
For what it's worth... I always orgasmed. I never had problems there. I did fake WHEN it happened a couple of times. With condoms, she can't be 100% sure when I finish... and a few times I kept going after to try and bring her something until I just couldn't handle the sensation. So I was faking for a good cause in those situations.
But here in Western culture... Most men, even the super religious ones are going to want to be with a woman who enjoys sex. Even if that man stereotypically doesn't care about her orgasm as long as he has his... he still wants her to enjoy it so she'll want to give him more of it. It just makes logical sense. Granted a lot of men won't be good at bringing a woman to orgasm or maybe not care to try very hard... but if she is able to do it for herself and enhance her enjoyment however... that man is going to be all for it. Very few western men want a starfish robot to "use" no matter what you might hear in the media.
Now... women are traditionally the ones shaming other women for enjoying sex too much... telling her she shouldn't enjoy it so much, definitely shouldn't touch herself, and shouldn't give her man too much attention... etc.
Women are kind of women's worst enemies in this regard. Where they could be helping each other out and encouraging, often they are competing with each other. Men might compete to "get" a particular woman or have the most women or some stupid manly competition like that... I don't know of any men who would seek to restrict other men or tell them not to masturbate or not to place importance on their orgasm or whatever.
It's a weird flex... and women kind of get screwed (figuratively not literally) by both men and women. Men will often use women for their own pleasure and not worry about the woman immediately after... and women will discourage other women from enjoying sex too much.
My only sex has been with escorts, so you never quite know when they really orgasm or when they fake it for you. I never wanted fake, though... so I always tried. One escort told me she had never orgasmed with a client before. Another woman was screaming so much she had to grab a pillow and bury her face in it. Most of them were just sort of there... and one woman did not orgasm at all, for sure, because she told me. She braced me initially saying she rarely orgasmed even on her own, and she honestly told me I wasn't doing it for her. Technically that is the only one I know for sure wasn't lying, because why would you lie about not having one?
For what it's worth... I always orgasmed. I never had problems there. I did fake WHEN it happened a couple of times. With condoms, she can't be 100% sure when I finish... and a few times I kept going after to try and bring her something until I just couldn't handle the sensation. So I was faking for a good cause in those situations.
