How do i ensure the narcissists who pushed me to suicide feel guilty and ashamed after?

[HermitLonerGuy]

So basically my parents and I are victims of Narcissists .

Its one of the major reasons im suicidal.

These people won't even take responsibility or acknowledge they did wrong to us.

I want my death to make them feel guilt and ashamed.

I know this is a bad mindset but they basically ruined our lives .

Its not the only reason im suicidal but one of the main reasons and i believe maybe i wouldnt even be suicidal if it wasnt for them and their actions .

 

[BornToFail]

You can't. They are narcissists, sadly. I mean, you could livestream your suicide and make sure it gets to them somehow.

 

[SamTam33]

How do you make someone love you? How do you make someone treat you kindly?

If you can answer those questions, you'll be able to answer the one you posed in the thread.

Not to sound like a smart-ass but if it was possible to control the emotions and feelings of other people, half of us wouldn't be here searching for ways to die.

Ultimately, your death has to be about what you want to feel (or not feel). It's the only thing you can control.

 

[jodes2]

You can't. They are narcissists, sadly. I mean, you could livestream your suicide and make sure it gets to them somehow.

Agreed, completely with the first bit. Best you can do is Rob them of your presence so they have one less person to abuse. But you don't need to kys for that, no contact works just as well. If you CTB they might even laugh about it. Fuck em

 

[hungry_ghost]

Killing yourself because of them would only further fuel their ego and probably cause them more satisfaction that they have "won".

 

[HermitLonerGuy]

You can't. They are narcissists, sadly. I mean, you could livestream your suicide and make sure it gets to them somehow.

i will make videos as a suicide note explaining its their fault and they have blood on their hands and why i felt abused by them and send it to all my family and friends and people who know them.

Killing yourself because of them would only further fuel their ego and probably cause them more satisfaction that they have "won".

probably true , but i thought maybe id shame them by making suicide note videos and send it to everyone we mutually know and explain their abuse and its their fault.

 

[makethepainstop]

Screw anyone who hurt you. I have no pity or sympathy for those who hurt others to make themselves feel good.

 

[hamvil]

So basically my parents and I are victims of Narcissists .

Its one of the major reasons im suicidal.

These people won't even take responsibility or acknowledge they did wrong to us.

I want my death to make them feel guilt and ashamed.

I know this is a bad mindset but they basically ruined our lives .

Its not the only reason im suicidal but one of the main reasons and i believe maybe i wouldnt even be suicidal if it wasnt for them and their actions .

It is very hard and unlikely. narcissists do sometimes know that they hurt others (they are not sociopaths) but if that is for their benefit they do not care. They will probably not care that you kill yourself. That is why suicide because of narcissism is not a great idea IMO. No idea what they did to you, try to overcome that and do not let get final satisfaction from their actions. That said I do not know if they made permanent damage to you or your family. Good luck.

 

[SpiroSundae]

If they are true narcissists, they will likely not grieve as hard as you'd want them to

 

[Cryptonite]

Narcissists cannot feel guilty. It is not because they are horrible people per se. It is because they suffer from a legitimate disease. There is something embedded in their personality that prevents them from feeling guilt or remorse. It can be literally seen under MRI. They cannot change that, just like a person without a leg cannot grow one. It is such a painful and horrible truth. Maybe you can visualize that if you imagine their brain as a hard drive. They are unable to control their actions, they just run their preloaded setup. That's what it actually is. Narcissists come from traumatic childhoods. Traumatic childhood offers only 2 ways out – becoming a narcissist or becoming and empath. It is so cruel. I feel your pain.

Source: my grandfather used to have grandiose (trumpish) NPD, my father has grandiose NPD and I myself was diagnosed with vulnerable (thin-skinned) NPD and successfully treated in a state-of-the-art treatment. It is a horrible, horrible, painful disease, causing so much suffering to the others and oneself. Seriously, with all respect to other diseases, I think NPD is probably the worst. It is because it is the main reason behind countless wars in the world, just like the recent one in Ukraine. Millions and millions of people killed, injured and traumatized by just one disease. This is the true epidemic, not COVID or anything else.

 

[lionetta12]

So basically my parents and I are victims of Narcissists .

Its one of the major reasons im suicidal.

These people won't even take responsibility or acknowledge they did wrong to us.

I want my death to make them feel guilt and ashamed.

I know this is a bad mindset but they basically ruined our lives .

Its not the only reason im suicidal but one of the main reasons and i believe maybe i wouldnt even be suicidal if it wasnt for them and their actions .

Like others have said, it's pretty much impossible to «get to» or hurt a true narscissist. Unless it directly effects them or their life and comfort, they simply usually don't care, let alone for other people.

 

[MovingOn]

You can't. They won't. You'll be throwing away your life for no reason.

 

[conflagration]

You can't, after your death they will just think you are weak pathetic creature infinitely below them because you offed yourself.
If revenge is your main motivation please reconsider.

 

[Unending]

Agreed, completely with the first bit. Best you can do is Rob them of your presence so they have one less person to abuse. But you don't need to kys for that, no contact works just as well. If you CTB they might even laugh about it. Fuck em

No contact with people who are problems has always been the only answer for me. Its crazy how when all signs of those who make our lives hell are removed, certain symptoms alleviate. Unfortunately there's obviously the issue of trauma but you probably get my point.

 

[jodes2]

No contact with people who are problems has always been the only answer for me. Its crazy how when all signs of those who make our lives hell are removed, certain symptoms alleviate. Unfortunately there's obviously the issue of trauma but you probably get my point.

It's highly recommended

 

[UKscotty]

They won't care and you will be gone so can't care.

 

[farFSightcloseTHart]

Have pride. Do it for yourself or dont.

 

[demuic]

As others have said, narcissists are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. They don't care about anything besides themselves. It is better to simply ignore them as given them any attention at all or showing how much you are bothered by them only serves to feed their ego and give them satisfaction. You could try and expose their behaviors to people you mutually know as you said but the narcissist(s) will probably have those people wrapped under their illusion and explain it away as a lie or you being crazy or something and you won't be there to combat any of that.

 

[wait.what]

The whole reason you hate these people is because they hurt you and don't even have the decency to care about it, right? So how does it make sense to hurt yourself even more, hoping your death will cause them to care about you?

It's not going to work. All it will do is increase the suffering of those who already do care, like your parents, presumably.

 

[theboy]

suicide note

 

[painofzed]

So basically my parents and I are victims of Narcissists .

Its one of the major reasons im suicidal.

These people won't even take responsibility or acknowledge they did wrong to us.

I want my death to make them feel guilt and ashamed.

I know this is a bad mindset but they basically ruined our lives .

Its not the only reason im suicidal but one of the main reasons and i believe maybe i wouldnt even be suicidal if it wasnt for them and their actions .

You can't make a narcissist feel guilt, they are incapable.

 

[Walilamdzii]

Personally I was going to write and publicise a lengthy blog, email it to all of his family members and then glue myself to his vehicle and take a fatal OD to ensure maximum gossip/chaos.

As others have said, narcissists are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. They don't care about anything besides themselves. It is better to simply ignore them as given them any attention at all or showing how much you are bothered by them only serves to feed their ego and give them satisfaction. You could try and expose their behaviors to people you mutually know as you said but the narcissist(s) will probably have those people wrapped under their illusion and explain it away as a lie or you being crazy or something and you won't be there to combat any of that.

This is extremely accurate.

 

[Chronicoverwhelm]

My death would make my narcissistic mother happy. If I were to mail her a suicide letter (we've not spoken since 2003) explaining that she's a major contributer to what led me to CTB she wouldn't believe it- she isn't wired to feel accountability, remorse, etc.. 1 + 1 does not equal 2, it equals whatever she says it does. Other comments in this thread have hit the nail on the head describing how the narcissistic brain operates. When I do CTB, there will be no letter sent to her. I don't even want her mentioned in my obituary and she is not welcome at my funeral (I wish to not have one but haven't officially told anyone). I feel zero need to have any final word with her and we have written each other off.

 

[HermitLonerGuy]

Personally I was going to write and publicise a lengthy blog, email it to all of his family members and then glue myself to his vehicle and take a fatal OD to ensure maximum gossip/chaos.

This is extremely accurate.

how do i write a blog and ensure it wont be taken down after my death?

My death would make my narcissistic mother happy. If I were to mail her a suicide letter (we've not spoken since 2003) explaining that she's a major contributer to what led me to CTB she wouldn't believe it- she isn't wired to feel accountability, remorse, etc.. 1 + 1 does not equal 2, it equals whatever she says it does. Other comments in this thread have hit the nail on the head describing how the narcissistic brain operates. When I do CTB, there will be no letter sent to her. I don't even want her mentioned in my obituary and she is not welcome at my funeral (I wish to not have one but haven't officially told anyone). I feel zero need to have any final word with her and we have written each other off.

omg the way you describe your mom is the same with my narcissist .No accountability or remorse.

 

[heyrabu]

So basically my parents and I are victims of Narcissists .

Its one of the major reasons im suicidal.

These people won't even take responsibility or acknowledge they did wrong to us.

I want my death to make them feel guilt and ashamed.

I know this is a bad mindset but they basically ruined our lives .

Its not the only reason im suicidal but one of the main reasons and i believe maybe i wouldnt even be suicidal if it wasnt for them and their actions .

I feel sad about how you cares so much about how the narcissist will feel about when you ctb.
I mean, you only ctb once in your life, I think you should focused about how you and people around you would feel instead. Think about what can you do to make the people left behind can accept the fact you do ctb more easier. Think about how happy and how free you'll feel after all the pain stops..
It's just my opinion tho, I'm not trying to lecture you or anything like that, sorry if I might sounds like that, and also sorry for bad english

 

[sadloner]

unfortunately narcissists are never willing to accept theyve done anything wrong, and will do anything they can to place the blame on anyone else. theyll probably just call you selfish. thats just life, shitty "people" get to get away with ruining our lives, and all we can do is suffer. there is no revenge. its just torture that only ends when we die. it fucking sucks.

 

[bbrown]

Like others have said you simply can't make them. If anything you risk giving them an easy way to justify in their mind whatever they did to you since you have demonstrated how you are weak and deserved it in the eyes. I'm all for people making the choice to end their life, but I believe revenge is the least justifiable reason.

 

[itsallpointless]

If you do things for revenge you have become the narcissist. Own your suffering and move past it, even if it is painful. Do not focus on anything other than your personal improvement/self-love.

 

[Mister Skittles]

The biggest f you, you could possibly give them is to stay alive and show them that their pitiful actions are meaningless. Living and finding joy in your life is the best thing you can do. We should not live to spite others, we should not die to spite others. We should live for ourselves. Just living your life with your own agency is the best thing you can do for yourself and it simultaniously denies them the safisfaction of feeling that their actions mattered. Don't let them live rent free in your head, kick them out. Don't let their actions control YOUR life.