Anonymoususer1234

Anonymoususer1234

Experienced
Apr 13, 2023
214
There's animal abuse, theft, betrayal, child slavery, murder etc. Injustice (big and small) is everywhere in the world. Some of the worst people I know (myself included) haven't faced any real, proportional justice. The richest people in the world become rich by exploiting others. How can anyone believe in karma in a world like this?
 
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Passersby

Passersby

Trapped in space and time
Aug 29, 2019
1,641
Exactly right? I used to believe in karma a long time ago but not anymore. Even if something bad did happen to someone who did something bad themselves then how do we prove that what they did had anything to do with what happened to them? Theres no way to prove that. Sure, it is still possible and could always be hidden but it's unlikely that there is any universal force behind that.

There are so many instances where something terrible happens to someone for no reason at all and other cases where someone does something really bad and then nothing bad happens to them at all. In fact they might even have good things happen to them and still live a great life afterwards.

Karma to me now is just made up wishful thinking in order to achieve justice and have a perfect desired outcome occur, but in reality we never know what is going to happen.
 
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Celerity

Celerity

shape without form, shade without colour
Jan 24, 2021
2,733
Like every other stupid thing people love to believe, it's because they want to believe it, no matter how illogical it is. It gives them a false sense of security. The world isn't so scary if only the bad people are hurt in the end. And if you are wronged by someone, they will eventually be punished, allowing you to enjoy an impotent revenge.

This Wikipedia article may be of interest to you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis#:~:text=The just-world hypothesis or,fitting consequences for the actor.
 
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Anonymoususer1234

Anonymoususer1234

Experienced
Apr 13, 2023
214
Even if something bad did happen to someone who did something bad themselves then how do we prove that what they did had anything to do with what happened to them?
That's a really good point. Thanks for your reply!
 
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DeadHead

Belief is the enemy of knowledge
Aug 20, 2023
292
Karma is a psyop. If it existed, we would not have any of the injustice we see around us, nor would pedos be running the world.

People have become dumb and unable to think critically from all the crap that's in our food, amongst other things.
 
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Sluggish_Slump

Sluggish_Slump

Specialist
Mar 29, 2023
300
Justice has to be enforced willfully, no one should expect it to happen magically by itself unless it helps them sleep better at night
 
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TheBroken

TheBroken

What Really Matters Anymore?
Feb 13, 2022
232
Still believing that what people deserve (karma) may often actually hit them after death versus in life. I can guarantee the after death hits are looking bad for me because I am unequivocally a piece of shit - always have been and always will be.
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,704
I had someone I was close to tell me that the reason I got molested as a child and teenager was due to bad karma from a past life. Buddhism is interesting as a concept, but the fad adoption of such insensitive ideologies such as past life karma being the reason that people suffer horrific things in this life is difficult for me to stomach or condone.
 
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Celerity

Celerity

shape without form, shade without colour
Jan 24, 2021
2,733
I had someone I was close to tell me that the reason I got molested as a child and teenager was due to bad karma from a past life. Buddhism is interesting as a concept, but the fad adoption of such insensitive ideologies such as past life karma being the reason that people suffer horrific things in this life is difficult for me to stomach or condone.
That's just absolutely terrible. I am so sorry someone said that to you.
 
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Rapière

Rapière

On the brink
Jul 7, 2022
249
I had someone I was close to tell me that the reason I got molested as a child and teenager was due to bad karma from a past life. Buddhism is interesting as a concept, but the fad adoption of such insensitive ideologies such as past life karma being the reason that people suffer horrific things in this life is difficult for me to stomach or condone.
I'm pretty sure karma was originally invented as a means justify and cement the caste system into people's heads in order to keep the slaves from rebelling against their masters. The thing is that Buddha actually called many of these ancient beliefs into question (and even openly mocked some of them) but did not discard them alltogether so that he could repurpose and use them to explain his own naturalistic philosophy. Buddha certainly did not believe in any kind of divine justifce, so any self-proclaimed Buddhist who tells you that your suffering is caused by mistakes you made in past lives is a fucking moron.
 
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Blackpepperpancake

Blackpepperpancake

Help me to breathe
Nov 22, 2023
55
Karma is just a form of helplessness when you can't do nothing but only solace yourself by believing that something greater beyond will punish those who done wrong, only us human have this concept unlike animal, which is terrible
 
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leavingthesoultrap

leavingthesoultrap

(ᴗ_ ᴗ。)
Nov 25, 2023
1,212
I don't believe in karma. If it was real the elites would not be doing what they are doing. I also don't subscribe to the notion that victims of crime are responsible for what happened due to their previous karma. That's appalling.
 
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Disappointered

Disappointered

Enlightened
Sep 21, 2020
1,283
Sometimes I feel better by telling myself that my own suffering is not a form of mysterious injustice. I must be a bad person so, in fact, the universe is orderly and just. It usually doesn't last but I feel that way every couple of months for a day or so. Karma has never made any sense. There's nothing out there that humans are meant to understand and act in accordance with. Future generations will have an easier time aborting their lives if it turns out they are losers or just internally deficient with mood problems.
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
4,828
It's a way to cope. I assume one would feel more better if there's a system at play here which rewards the good people and punishes the bad people. However, there isn't and some bad people end being well off in life whereas some good people suffer until they die
 
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alone10

140+ IQ
Jan 15, 2024
43
There are 2 billion people who believe in Christianity. There are 2 billion people who believe in Islam.
 
DarkRange55

DarkRange55

Enlightened
Oct 15, 2023
1,791
Stars and gravitational collapse power the universe.
The universe runs more on atoms fusing than on atoms splitting, but many things, such as black holes, do not involve either splitting or fusing of atoms, and atoms are thought to make up only around 5% of the mass of the universe in the first place...
In any given universe of the multiverse, the splitting and fusing of atoms (and other small particles) appears to us to be random, but we do not know if this is because of our perception or because of reality. This does not necessarily rule out karma or other mystical connections, but if these exist, so far we have not found a way to measure them.

Karma seems to have something to it – "he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword".
 
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BlessedBeTheFlame

All things are nothing to me
Feb 2, 2024
149
We probably all fucking deserve to die anyway. I don't believe in some pussy god, who wants to be benevolent. If we all go off to war and then kill ourselves, that's probably what we should've all gotten. The only just god would be one, who puts people through hell for just existing.
 
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Meteora

Ignorance is bliss
Jun 27, 2023
2,007
There's animal abuse, theft, betrayal, child slavery, murder etc. Injustice (big and small) is everywhere in the world. Some of the worst people I know (myself included) haven't faced any real, proportional justice. The richest people in the world become rich by exploiting others. How can anyone believe in karma in a world like this?
Well maybe this here is more hell than heaven, idk. I understand your question, I think and hope people have to pay for their cruelties. Maybe in another incarnation.... who knows.
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
11,219
Call it karma or destiny everything is random unless we live in and are product of a simulation and our karma / destiny is already known to a "higher being"
 
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SexyIncél

SexyIncél

🍭my lollipop brings the feminists to my candyshop
Aug 16, 2022
1,482
I don't have time rn to read serious ethnographies, on wtf "karma" really means. But I wouldn't be surprised if the mainstream takes it completely out of context. Like someone from another culture poring over "you reap what you sow". Linking it to mystical bible passages like:

"Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to the flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life."

But of course, many just say it in a kinda badass (or wishful) way. Despite the many who also believe that evil acts will haunt you in some posulated afterlife
 
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Manfrotto99

Specialist
Oct 10, 2023
307
Karma is based on a "just world philosophy", it is based on reasoning and not fact.. It's ingrained in every one of us from the momment where born. Bad things happen to bad people, good things happen to good people. God punishes bad people and blesses the good... same thing. It exits for a purpose, to keep society under control and to give us humans reason for behaving the way we do. As far as I'm concerned it's a sick and demented way of looking at things, but few will admit it, because most people cannot accept that there not always in control and that shit does just happen for no purpose, to those who do not deserve it.
 
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Homo erectus

Homo erectus

Mage
Mar 7, 2023
560
People keep hoping for a higher justice to punish the bad people, because the lower justice has failed their expectation.
 
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