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I have a... pretty solid plan that I can go through with on october 25. I'm going to use hydrogen sulfide to cause near instant death.
BUT... if that doesn't work, if I chicken out, if somehow I get prevented from doing so, I just don't know what to do.
so plan B: get cancer. In america you can choose to receive lethal drugs if you are going to die in less than 6 months from an incurable disease. So cancer it is!

what are some recommendations for quickly developing cancer? I know that drinking alcohol, smoking, etc can cause it in the long term, but I'm interested in short term.
I think my best bet is radiation. The sun can work, but dealing with sunburn every day for months on end sounds not very fun.
What are some easy sources of ionizing radiation? X-rays, alpha beta gamma, that stuff. As far as I know it's pretty difficult to get ahold of that sort of thing.
 
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Euthanasia is only available in the states/districts of Oregon, Washington D.C., Hawaii, Washington, Maine, Colorado, New Jersey, California, and Vermont. It would be a time consuming process to try to intentionally give yourself cancer as well.
 
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Euthanasia is only available in the states/districts of Oregon, Washington D.C., Hawaii, Washington, Maine, Colorado, New Jersey, California, and Vermont. It be a time consuming process to try to intentionally give yourself cancer as well.
those states are fine. With radiation would it be that time consuming? If I somehow get ahold of some uranium rocks and decide to keep them in my pockets and on my desk at all times, would that accelerate things?
is it even possible for a regular person to obtain radium?

...I guess even once cancer does appear, it takes years to develop and become apparent. fuck.
I suppose I'll just hope that plan A works.
 
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Doubt you could obtain anything radioactive. Some cancers can grow quickly. I suppose you could find some asbestos and breathe in exorbitant amounts in a short amount of time. You know cancer is an agonizing death, even with drugs for pain management. Chemotherapy and radiation are not exactly fun and each carry with them potentially painful side-effects. If you're looking for something without a lot of pain, getting cancer isn't it. I doubt anyone who has had cancer will tell you it's an idealistic way to go. Frankly, it's probably one of the worst ways to go. Maybe look into a Plan C.
 
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Doubt you could obtain anything radioactive. Some cancers can grow quickly. I suppose you could find some asbestos and breathe in exorbitant amounts in a short amount of time. You know cancer is an agonizing death, even with drugs for pain management. Chemotherapy and radiation are not exactly fun and each carry with them potentially painful side-effects. If you're looking for something without a lot of pain, getting cancer isn't it. I doubt anyone who has had cancer will tell you it's an idealistic way to go. Frankly, it's probably one of the worst ways to go. Maybe look into a Plan C.
well I don't want to die from cancer. I want to get cancer, have doctors determine it to be fatal, then have them give me lethal drugs. I guess it's a bit convoluted
 
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doctors and scientists don't even fully understand what causes cancer. yes, they know certain things cause significantly higher likely hood of developing it, but that doesn't mean every single who encounters something gets cancer. and of the people who do, time frames between exposure and cancer developing are widely variant. i personally lost someone who was a pack-a-day smoker for nearly her entire life but didn't develop lung cancer until her late 60s. so in the off chance you were able to obtain a strong carcinogen, if or when it would cause your cells to malfunction is extremely unpredictable.
 
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well I don't want to die from cancer. I want to get cancer, have doctors determine it to be fatal, then have them give me lethal drugs. I guess it's a bit convoluted
Still going to be some kind of suffering involved, because you would have to get to the point where they deem your cancer terminal before they would even consider euthanasia. And even if you waited (without seeking treatment), by the time you reached that point, you'd be having some pain of some sort, I'm sure.
 
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Honestly, this is just something that is not possible to do. If yo want a backup plan I would look at other known methods, many are dscussed on this site. It's better not to try to depend on an unrealistic pln. I hope you can find peace somehow.
 
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Apr 27, 2019
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I have a... pretty solid plan that I can go through with on october 25. I'm going to use hydrogen sulfide to cause near instant death.
BUT... if that doesn't work, if I chicken out, if somehow I get prevented from doing so, I just don't know what to do.
so plan B: get cancer. In america you can choose to receive lethal drugs if you are going to die in less than 6 months from an incurable disease. So cancer it is!

what are some recommendations for quickly developing cancer? I know that drinking alcohol, smoking, etc can cause it in the long term, but I'm interested in short term.
I think my best bet is radiation. The sun can work, but dealing with sunburn every day for months on end sounds not very fun.
What are some easy sources of ionizing radiation? X-rays, alpha beta gamma, that stuff. As far as I know it's pretty difficult to get ahold of that sort of thing.
I understand what brought you to this conclusion and I do realize that those with terminal illnesses receive more allowances during the end of their days (they can be more open to those around them/say goodbye, are more likely to receive supportive responses/reactions, can directly state their wishes for after-death plans/requests so there is no confusion, have access to legal euthanasia options, etc)…but as someone else mentioned…in all likelihood it would be insanely time consuming, risky (could make your quality of life worse without giving you terminal cancer), without any guarantees and really overall not feasible to be done on purpose.
Doubt you could obtain anything radioactive. Some cancers can grow quickly. I suppose you could find some asbestos and breathe in exorbitant amounts in a short amount of time. You know cancer is an agonizing death, even with drugs for pain management. Chemotherapy and radiation are not exactly fun and each carry with them potentially painful side-effects. If you're looking for something without a lot of pain, getting cancer isn't it. I doubt anyone who has had cancer will tell you it's an idealistic way to go. Frankly, it's probably one of the worst ways to go. Maybe look into a Plan C.
You're right but I don't think they plan on getting treatments or going through any of the processes those who wish to live do.
Nor do they seem to want to allow the actual cancer to do the killing.

Personally, if I was diagnosed with cancer I would refuse treatment.
(Or pretend I was going elsewhere to receive it as not to raise any alarm.)
My decision to end my life is already made up, most forms of cancer wouldn't make much of a difference as my situation is terminal anyhow.
May even help to give me an excuse to be more open about my plans without having to worry about backlash or being thrown in the ward.
Then again, I've seen cases where some people were literally forced into chemotherapy or other cancer interventions against their will..which is terrifying and disturbing to me.

Idk about OP, but I imagine the whole cancer deal plays out a lot differently to the host when they have no will to live, regardless of the diagnosis.
Might even be a strange sense of relief.
I could be wrong but I don't think OP meant to trivialize the pain and suffering of those who do have cancer and wish to fight it.
I see this "wish for cancer" talking point a hell of a lot with suicidal people.
Like a weird form of bargaining amidst their grief.
It makes sense..all things considered, but what doesn't make so much sense is actively trying to inflict cancer on your own self, as that's just not realistic and probably more pain to try for than it's worth.
 
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I understand what brought you to this conclusion and I do realize that those with terminal illnesses receive more allowances during the end of their days (they can be more open to those around them/say goodbye, are more likely to receive supportive responses/reactions, can directly state their wishes for after-death plans/requests so there is no confusion, have access to legal euthanasia options, etc)…but as someone else mentioned…in all likelihood it would be insanely time consuming, risky (could make your quality of life worse without giving you terminal cancer), without any guarantees and really overall not feasible to be done on purpose.

You're right but I don't think they plan on getting treatments or going through any of the processes those who wish to live do.
Nor do they seem to want to allow the actual cancer to do the killing.

Personally, if I was diagnosed with cancer I would refuse treatment.
(Or pretend I was going elsewhere to receive it as not to raise any alarm.)
My decision to end my life is already made up, most forms of cancer wouldn't make much of a difference as my situation is terminal anyhow.
May even help to give me an excuse to be more open about my plans without having to worry about backlash or being thrown in the ward.
Then again, I've seen cases where some people were literally forced into chemotherapy or other cancer interventions against their will..which is terrifying and disturbing to me.

Idk about OP, but I imagine the whole cancer deal plays out a lot differently to the host when they have no will to live, regardless of the diagnosis.
Might even be a strange sense of relief.
I could be wrong but I don't think OP meant to trivialize the pain and suffering of those who do have cancer and wish to fight it.
I see this "wish for cancer" talking point a hell of a lot with suicidal people.
Like a weird form of bargaining amidst their grief.
It makes sense..all things considered, but what doesn't make so much sense is actively trying to inflict cancer on your own self, as that's just not realistic and probably more pain to try for than it's worth.
Maybe it is a dumb thing to do. Fuck.

Well... are there other terminal illnesses I could get? It's mostly because I want a way out that others would support me through. I want to go out by myself, but if that fails it's unlikely I'll have another chance. So this "method" seems the only remaining one if I fail.

AIDS is a managed condition nowadays.
What else? Rabies sounds extremely messed up.
 
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Maybe it is a dumb thing to do. Fuck.

Well... are there other terminal illnesses I could get? It's mostly because I want a way out that others would support me through. I want to go out by myself, but if that fails it's unlikely I'll have another chance. So this "method" seems the only remaining one if I fail.

AIDS is a managed condition nowadays.
What else? Rabies sounds extremely messed up.
Drink eye drops every day :)
(I'm not being serious don't do that... really have no idea how you could inflict yourself with a disease terrible enough to kill you quickly.)
 
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There's no guarantee you can develop cancer, even at high risk. Besides, I've known people to die of cancer and it was awful protracted death. We wouldn't allow our beloved pets to die like this so be careful what you wish for.
 
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well I don't want to die from cancer. I want to get cancer, have doctors determine it to be fatal, then have them give me lethal drugs. I guess it's a bit convoluted
I am sorry you are in this situation that you feel like getting cancer would be a relief.
I have been there myself, but when you look at the details, it isn't as simple as that.

Often you don't get diagnosed until you already have a serious health issue that can't be otherwise explained.
That means weeks if not months dealing with pain or at least very uncomfortable symptoms.

Once you are diagnosed with cancer you would be pushed into trying different treatments.
They are AWFUL and very, very challenging to go through. Physically and mentally.
If you deny treatment and tell doctors that you just want to die with their help, they will suddenly be VERY difficult to deal with. They will try and coerce you into treatment (especially if you are young!) and they will make it even harder to access assisted dying. Including mandatory psych ward stays. Not fun!

Remember: those people have sworn an oath to preserve life. And that's what they'll do.

There is also a bit of a grey area when it comes to assisted dying. They won't just simply give you the drugs and let you go. It can be quite a lengthy process and cancer can take quite a toll on your body/health before you get to the point that you have only 6 months left.

It's an ugly illness and an even uglier way to go.
Same as kidney failure or any other physical illness that can be fatal.

There are easier ways of CTBing.
 
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Maybe it is a dumb thing to do. Fuck.

Well... are there other terminal illnesses I could get? It's mostly because I want a way out that others would support me through. I want to go out by myself, but if that fails it's unlikely I'll have another chance. So this "method" seems the only remaining one if I fail.

AIDS is a managed condition nowadays.
What else? Rabies sounds extremely messed up.
This is no way to get a terminal illness that would be feasible- this is not something that will work. It is better to look at realistic options.
 
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I have a... pretty solid plan that I can go through with on october 25. I'm going to use hydrogen sulfide to cause near instant death.
BUT... if that doesn't work, if I chicken out, if somehow I get prevented from doing so, I just don't know what to do.
so plan B: get cancer. In america you can choose to receive lethal drugs if you are going to die in less than 6 months from an incurable disease. So cancer it is!

what are some recommendations for quickly developing cancer? I know that drinking alcohol, smoking, etc can cause it in the long term, but I'm interested in short term.
I think my best bet is radiation. The sun can work, but dealing with sunburn every day for months on end sounds not very fun.
What are some easy sources of ionizing radiation? X-rays, alpha beta gamma, that stuff. As far as I know it's pretty difficult to get ahold of that sort of thing.
Well a damaged nuclear reactor could help. Your have a choice Chernobyl, or Fukushima! Enjoy.
 
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You can't just give yourself cancer. You could expose yourself to cancer causing agents but it would still take a long time to develop.
 
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Most of us here are salt drinkers..
 
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Been smoking menthol cigarettes (on average 5 packs a week) for 26 years.

Drink straight Vodka like nobody's business. Have a history of colon cancer in the family and I'm still waiting for mine.

I have stomach and digestive issues but that's it. I don't get annual checkups for none of my body parts lol. Never have because I've never cared about what they might find.

I'm not participating in any remedies or preventative care, so what would be the point of a checkup.

Anyway I'm still hoping that one day all of these things will combine for the perfect storm.

Despite the prolonged suffering, it's one of my "ideal" deaths. For me, there are few things more glorious than knowing I'm going to die within a certain amount of time.

I could manage to be happy if I knew my approximate death date. I could confidently make arrangements about what to do with my things. Tell people goodbye and have them genuinely receive my farewells (that's difficult to achieve with suicides).

While I still had the strength, I could travel to some of my favorite places and eat my favorite foods with no worries about how I'm going to afford it all.

As ironic as it sounds, contracting cancer is at the very top of my bucket list.
 
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I'm currently providing end-of-life care to a loved one who is presently riddled with cancer, if it were only possible to take this agonising and torturous death from her and pass it on to SS members who are begging for this horrible end l can assure you I'd be in all your DMs rn
 
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You only get cancer if you want to live. If you want to die, you're 100% immune. It's called Murphy's law.
 
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I do think if there were ways to easily give ourselves terminal illnesses, then this would be discussed more and you would hear of people doing it. Instead those who want to leave will have to find a way to exit themselves. Unfortunately in my country they don't even allow those with terminal illness a peaceful exit which is so cruel but those who are able to peacefully end their suffering are certainly lucky.
 
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I'm currently providing end-of-life care to a loved one who is presently riddled with cancer, if it were only possible to take this agonising and torturous death from her and pass it on to SS members who are begging for this horrible end l can assure you I'd be in all your DMs rn
If that were possible, I'd post up on Craigslist offering to pay a handsome amount. But alas, life is backwards and there's no way of unloading your unwanted ailments.
 
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If it were possible I'd give it to you all for free and you'd all be instantly fucking regretting it.
 
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Cancer is not something you'd want … I actually want to ctb from fear of growing older and getting cancer
 
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I don't think it's possible for me to regret dying. What would that even entail?

Knowing that I won't be here for much longer? That I get to share meaningful goodbyes (that's super important to me). Not having to go to war with SI? Sign me up. That's probably the main reason why we're all still here. Frigging survival instincts and fear.

Cancer (or a similar disease) takes care of those pesky impediments.

It's like wealthy people saying money doesn't bring happiness. Ok. I believe you. But I'd still like the opportunity to test it out on my own. Let me learn the hard way.
 
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I have a... pretty solid plan that I can go through with on october 25. I'm going to use hydrogen sulfide to cause near instant death.
BUT... if that doesn't work, if I chicken out, if somehow I get prevented from doing so, I just don't know what to do.
so plan B: get cancer. In america you can choose to receive lethal drugs if you are going to die in less than 6 months from an incurable disease. So cancer it is!

what are some recommendations for quickly developing cancer? I know that drinking alcohol, smoking, etc can cause it in the long term, but I'm interested in short term.
I think my best bet is radiation. The sun can work, but dealing with sunburn every day for months on end sounds not very fun.
What are some easy sources of ionizing radiation? X-rays, alpha beta gamma, that stuff. As far as I know it's pretty difficult to get ahold of that sort of thing.
Trust me you don't want to do this even if it were easily done, which it is not. I have a lot of experience working with cancer patients and there is a good chance you would spend your last months in agonizing pain despite whatever pain meds you may be given.
 
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i guess eat junk , drink junk , smoke , no exercise etc.

would take years if not decades so whats the point.

But i understand your reasoning , if i get cancer i wouldnt feel guilt for my family and there would be less shame involved and i wouldnt have to find a method id fly to a country for euthanasia.

although its very painful and alot of suffering .
 
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OP ... maybe you should read some of the horror stories of what it's really like to die of cancer at https://deathwithdignity.org/stories/ ... they'll make your blood run cold.

Trust me you don't want to do this even if it were easily done, which it is not. I have a lot of experience working with cancer patients and there is a good chance you would spend your last months in agonizing pain despite whatever pain meds you may be given.
I don't want to die from cancer. I've said this multiple times. I want to die from euthanasia which can only be applied if you have a terminal illness.
On this site, it seems like everyone wants the solution to be: walk into hospital, say you want to die, fill out some paperwork to make sure you know what the consequences are, and then get lethal drugs and die.
But that's obviously not possible anywhere in the world. However, something similar can be achieved in the method I've been talking about this whole time.
Do you get what I'm saying?
-get terminal illness
-go to hospital
-receive lethal drugs
-die while friends and family members at least give a shit and understand your death
 

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