Method How big of a fall to CTB?

[HNR_]

I'm considering jumping since I can't have access to peace ways to CTB so I was wondering how high would the fall need to be to be sure that I wouldn't survive
Also, considering on what I'd land (sand, rocks, water etc)

Would landing in sand dampen my fall to the point of leaving me paralyzed instead?

 

[Tomorrow Is Today]

150 feet onto concrete or 250 feet into water is almost guaranteed based on what I see in this forum.

Hard surface and headfirst is always ideal

 

[HNR_]

Wow, really?
Sure doesn't sound that high, all things considered

I guess I might aim for something higher as I'd like to reduce the amount of time during which I'll suffer from the impact since it'd mean I'd fall faster...

 

[raikko]

My general rule is 7 stories and above

 

[HNR_]

My general rule is 7 stories and above

Hmm, that's less than half of what Tomorrow is Today told me
Guess I'll wait for a couple more replies to make sure

Thank you both for replying btw!

 

[abinchains]

Well, rule of thumb is what @Tomorrow Is Today said. A previous user on here, who later passed on with SN (may she rest in peace) jumped from 8 stories. She ended up having to do 8 surgeries in a year, in a wheelchair, and her drs said she might have to get her leg amputated. A few people have even survived the recommended heights tho, like jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge. Jumping is so unpredictable because you have no control over how you land. You'd have to land head-first. I'm not trying to scare you in any way, I know you're in unbearable pain like many of us, and I'm sorry. I just want to make sure you know the risks of that method.

 

[Bishop]

Google Kevin Hines, he survived jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge.

 

[T22222222]

Well, rule of thumb is what @Tomorrow Is Today said. A previous user on here, who later passed on with SN (may she rest in peace) jumped from 8 stories. She ended up having to do 8 surgeries in a year, in a wheelchair, and her drs said she might have to get her leg amputated. A few people have even survived the recommended heights tho, like jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge. Jumping is so unpredictable because you have no control over how you land. You'd have to land head-first. I'm not trying to scare you in any way, I know you're in unbearable pain like many of us, and I'm sorry. I just want to make sure you know the risks of that method.

but falling from around the 46th floor onto concrete there's no chance of surviving right?

 

[HNR_]

Well, rule of thumb is what @Tomorrow Is Today said. A previous user on here, who later passed on with SN (may she rest in peace) jumped from 8 stories. She ended up having to do 8 surgeries in a year, in a wheelchair, and her drs said she might have to get her leg amputated. A few people have even survived the recommended heights tho, like jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge. Jumping is so unpredictable because you have no control over how you land. You'd have to land head-first. I'm not trying to scare you in any way, I know you're in unbearable pain like many of us, and I'm sorry. I just want to make sure you know the risks of that method.

Fucking hell...

I perfectly understand where you're coming from, thanks for warning me

I'm running out of ideas to CTB then....really don't wanna go with hanging
Also, considering what you and Bishop said, I feel like it should be added to the list of non-methods, if it's possible to do so

 

[vaundy]

It's not a non method, those are just very rare cases of pure abnormal "luck". From my research and looking through previous threads on this forum a height of 50 meters (164 feet) or above onto a flat hard surface. Measuring with building stories is very inconsistent due to floors having variations of size.

 

[HNR_]

It's not a non method, those are just very rare cases of pure abnormal "luck". From my research and looking through previous threads on this forum a height of 50 meters (164 feet) or above onto a flat hard surface. Measuring with building stories is very inconsistent due to floors having variations of size.

Considering that my idea's to jump from a very steep cliff that leads to a beach, I'm suspecting that the sand would dampen my fall and lead the aforementioned issues

 

[Passenger4224]

To maximize chances of success you would have to jump from the highest point possible. I wouldn't bother to worry about a minimum

 

[vaundy]

Considering that my idea's to jump from a very steep hill that leads to a beach, I'm suspecting that the sand would dampen my fall and lead the aforementioned issues

Well again it highly depends on the height of the fall, sure sand will dampen a bit but it is still the ground after all, the kinetic energy at greater heights would be more than enough to do the job during impact.

 

[jeevasO-o]

but falling from around the 46th floor onto concrete there's no chance of surviving right?

It's EXTREMELY unlikely, but there is kinda almost always a chance of survival. Sometimes you get into "lucky" situations, so you somehow survive. Some people somehow survived ridiculous amount of heights..., But it's still extremely unlikely that you do survive that if you fall straight up down onto hard surface

 

[HNR_]

Well again it highly depends on the height of the fall, sure sand will dampen a bit but it is still the ground after all, the kinetic energy at greater heights would be more than enough to do the job during impact.

The place I was thinking about has a drop of 109 meters which is way more than what's advised and also higher than the distance Hines jumped from (about 67 meters)
Hmmm...maybe I'll look more into it then

To maximize chances of success you would have to jump from the highest point possible. I wouldn't bother to worry about a minimum

Sure, it still helps to have an approximation of what a body can withstand to make sure there's enough leeway to reduce the "chance" of survival people mentioned above

 

[vaundy]

The place I was thinking about has a drop of 109 meters which is way more than what's advised and also higher than the distance Hines jumped from (about 67 meters)
Hmmm...maybe I'll look more into it then

Again, cases like Hines are the extremely abnormal "luck" cases hence why they are news worthy and people remember them, that's not the case of the countless other cases where people actually do decease. If the height is 109 meters then it is definitely more than enough regardless if it's sand or not, again sand isn't exactly solid ground but it doesn't act like a cushion where it will save you or anything. Also just to get a specific talking point cleared, a fall from 109 meters will take roughly 4.7 seconds in total, so the whole "control your body and aim for the head" thing is obsolete. You really don't have any time to actually control your body during that short duration of falling, but if it makes people feel better then they can try.

 

[HNR_]

Again, cases like Hines are the extremely abnormal "luck" cases hence why they are news worthy and people remember them, that's not the case of the countless other cases where people actually do decease. If the height is 109 meters then it is definitely more than enough regardless if it's sand or not, again sand isn't exactly solid ground but it doesn't act like a cushion where it will save you or anything. Also just to get a specific talking point cleared, a fall from 109 meters will take roughly 4.7 seconds in total, so the whole "control your body and aim for the head" thing is obsolete. You really don't have any time to actually control your body during that short duration of falling, but if it makes people feel better then they can try.

Oh, yeah, absolutely
I'm curious actually, don't base-jumpers and parachutists learn how to fall in the most optimal way to avoid messing up and stuff?
Base jumpers end up head down, legs up, which would be ideal so wouldn't jumping the way they do solve the issue?